Stimulants Daily use of ADHD meds make me introverted and awkward?

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Uhm, I'm a man and I'm a thrasher, thrash metal, early death metal (when it was a more evil vibed thrash metal, inspired by what Slayer were doing and some lesser known ones), crossover, hardcore punk. That's music to my ears, not something one can program on fruity loops and rap over lol. Although I don't diss all of it, Ice-T doing "Disorder" regarding the Rodney King beating and race violence in LA in 91 with Slayer was the best rap-metal thing ever, after that they tried to make it an actual genre but it was just fucking shit (Limp Bizkit, Korn, turntable scratcher metalheads yeah sure..). The genres do share some actual things, lyrically often is in the same direction.

 

[feedtheSoul]

I did not say girls were happier with life than guys. Im talking about specifically the ability to enjoy ANYTHING, even boring classes like the above poster said they win at
. Men find interesting things more interesting. More girls than guys can zone out to like an English class and not really notice the boredome. i was in all honors classes, the guys tend to be either really smart or specifically concerned with doing well as a motive, but it's active torture lol. 'More Girls can enjoy just a blend of not really needing to care to pay attention, and they can find any random shit interesting. That's kinda what stims emphasize, that feminine part of the brain to tune in with emotion and interest to crap lol.

Okay, I kind of get what you're saying here now lol. I thought you were calling us stupid, but I do agree that girls can tend to be more interested in things due to the nature of our gender. Like, I still have moments where I really can't focus because I'm so ridiculously bored, but even then, my subconscious thoughts are all like "you need to know this, you WILL use this information one day​."

 

[feedtheSoul]

Rap music is my shit when I've taken my meds. I'm listening to Macklemore & Ryan Lewis's latest album; apparently was out in february and I just discovered it today. I'm literally head bopping.

 

[Sobrietysucks]

Is there anyone else who COULDNT socialize without amphetamine? Maybe methylphenidate I can see where your coming from, but Dexedrine and even noob first period on adderall should be very pro social or you probobally do not even have a dopamine deficiency or ADD. genuine ADD is usually diagnosed wrong, as it's almost always the person who's socially awkward to begin with from add symptoms and the med lets them calm down, except when it wears off yeah add people get like snappy and unlikeable to their peers if they were banking on the med to control themselves.

I take a low dose vyvanse which is extended release Dextroamphetamine. The smoothest of all amps.

Yeah, At first it was awesome for socializing but after a long time of daily usage, it was the opposite.

It's almost made mute. I no longer desire to socialize except for maybe during the come-up when the med kicks in. in fact, not only do I not want to be social, but it makes me DREAD it. This problem only arose after I started taking my meds DAILY as prescribed. my doctor said it's normal and to keep taking it.

I feel like a shell of my former self. A robot, a zombie , semi mute person with no personality.

 

[xbandit07x]

I take Vyvanse which is extended release Dextroamphetamine. The smoothest of all amps.

Yeah, At first it was awesome for socializing but after a long time of daily usage, it was the opposite.

It's almost made mute. I no longer desire to socialize except for maybe that first hour or two of come-up when the med kicks in. in fact, not only do I not want to be social, but it makes me DREAD it. This problem only arose after I started taking my meds DAILY as prescribed. my doctor said it's normal
I feel like a shell of my former self.

Yeah it's because it's god awful useless once tolerance Is high for everything if it's not a delta increase. As in, it doesn't matter how much vyvanse or Dexedrine you are on, if it's coming down in amount in the brain it creates this negative response reaction to preformimg new tasks or having new adventures. like when I take 50 IR at once, two hours later my brain might have like 40 still in it, but it starts to feel kinda crappier because it's declining even though 40 is a lot running still let's say and 40 IRs are very content. This isn't because someone's fiending that badly Lol.it's because the amount of dopamine at one given point is irrelevant, it's the slope of its travel so even though I'm
Disappointed and need a long t-break

I can have a fun day everyday taking 15 mg every 1.5 hours or so, so you get like a very long climbing contentment that's rising every minute. When the slope is increasing it reinforces in your brain positive enjoyment of stuff. If you eat 45 IR Dexedrine at once, as soon as it kicks in , you get one hour of Plateued enjoying the state, but the whole thing is declining after and feels like a tweak since A Tweak is whenever you have amphetamine active but it's losing fractions of mass each passing second. So you're still very much on amphetamine, but it's declining so that all these nice high IR amounts between 45 and 0 are not enjoyed at all because the whole day feels like it's getting worse! So that's when people start spinning and getting anxious.

And that's why vyvanse sucks. It's a tweak as soon as it peaks it's useless afterward if your liver processes it fast like me too when I tried vyvanse in the past. It may last 12 hours, but it's declining for 8 full hours so it's like a day reinforcing your brain that things are starting to suck more and more each prolonged minute

also half the social euphoria has something to do with Hot spicy peppers and a mu opiod receptor/substance P. At Ariund hour 3 of your IR or on any comedown eat a habanero pepper and you'l see it suspiciously feels like Hour 3-4 of one of the early amps you did. You can google it one guy brought this up Before. Physical comfort and social immunity might have to do with those receptors, but obviously socially and motivational focus parts and that direct far head sharp/pleasure feeling decease from tolerance.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

This^^. Taking the Spansules (2x10mg) + 2x5mg IR at 3-4pm did the same, spansules were the first "XL" pills ever, Vyvanse's mechanism is supposed to be better, but I think I was better off with taking 20mg as spansules, than taking a 20mg Vyvanse.

 

[Sobrietysucks]

It's as if stimulants are a materialistic good basically for all those who can't find any value in the rewards society has to offer for being apart of things and becoming some globalist identity who exists to be an atheist on a grind for money lol.

Stimulants are so shallow that they make you the least shallow of all Haha. Because your saying fuck the accomplishment competitive socialized itch il just patch it up with 30 Dex, yay I feel as regarded as a billionaire now I can move on in life with reality and not be unable to feel content with myself just because I lack something materialistic or still have wants for things that Aren't loving your family. If it's not loving your family, nature, friends, or activities special to you, or your career for stability, it's all just the same feeling as an Upper to engage the material world.

The main reason I take stimulants is because without it, I would never work a bullshit 9-5 job as a slave to society. The artificial dopamine reward from amphetamine allows me to at least somewhat tolerate the bullshit,makes me get out of bed and going to work doesn't feel so "forced" or painful

 

[Sobrietysucks]

This^^. Taking the Spansules (2x10mg) + 2x5mg IR at 3-4pm did the same, spansules were the first "XL" pills ever, Vyvanse's mechanism is supposed to be better, but I think I was better off with taking 20mg as spansules, than taking a 20mg Vyvanse.

You may be right. The thing is when I took vyvanse EVERY OTHRR DAY as opposed to daily (only 3, times a week), I felt awesome every time all day. Its only after I got promoted at my job full time did thr vyvanse become useless. So youre saying the problem is the med? My doctor shrugs it off like its no big deal. He prescribed me dexedrine once, but wouldn't give me a refill

 

[xbandit07x]

The main reason I take stimulants is because without it, I would never work a bullshit 9-5 job as a slave to society. The artificial dopamine reward from amphetamine allows me to at least somewhat tolerate the bullshit,makes me get out of bed and going to work doesn't feel so "forced" or painful

Exactly, when I explain this to certain people like parents they say well nobody's happy and jumping up and down all the time so should we all take something?.

But my response is happiness =\= contentment. lots of people are miserable and content, kinda like that apathetic feeling a stimulant gives when your sorta depressed. Tons of people without ADD live life on that basis, just able to zone out into just being themself content to stay in place and live like that.

people with non add/higher reward chemical can feel all kinds of depression and bad moods or anxiety and throw pity parties for themselves and we can't possibly care since Atleast they seem somehow content with their identity. That's why stimulants like Dex recapture that closely to real life in people and creates crazy psychedelic self views at higher doses, and it will always make you content but never fix happiness or depression.

Yeah modern life is all about content this content that what are you content with who are you what are you doing.

Dexedrine makes you like, give the world state it's own medicine backwards x2.

Dexedrine is like look everyone! I hold all the society points.

If you don't get weirded out on Dexedrine, the type of contentment it gives is so specific. people talk to you like you Carry cash or that your an overly respectable person. It specifically targets the social status part of the brain Moreso than stuff like cocaine which seems to bring upon more of a boastful drunk like elevation in mood which probobally makes most of us feel retarded

 

[xbandit07x]

Anyone else have experience walking around their college campus on their add med and what they percieve

 

[Sobrietysucks]

Exactly, when I explain this to certain people like parents they say well nobody's happy and jumping up and down all the time so should we all take something?.

But my response is happiness =\= contentment. lots of people are miserable and content, kinda like that apathetic feeling a stimulant gives when your sorta depressed. Tons of people without ADD live life on that basis, just able to zone out into just being themself content to stay in place and live like that.

people with non add/higher reward chemical can feel all kinds of depression and bad moods or anxiety and throw pity parties for themselves and we can't possibly care since Atleast they seem somehow content with their identity. That's why stimulants like Dex recapture that closely to real life in people and creates crazy psychedelic self views at higher doses, and it will always make you content but never fix happiness or depression.

Yeah modern life is all about content this content that what are you content with who are you what are you doing.

Dexedrine makes you like, give the world state it's own medicine backwards x2.

Dexedrine is like look everyone! I hold all the society points.

If you don't get weirded out on Dexedrine, the type of contentment it gives is so specific. people talk to you like you Carry cash or that your an overly respectable person. It specifically targets the social status part of the brain Moreso than stuff like cocaine which seems to bring upon more of a boastful drunk like elevation in mood which probobally makes most of us feel retarded

Do you take the dexedrine every day? Won't tolerance go up without a break, so after a while you just take it to feel 'normal'?

 

[xbandit07x]

Do you take the dexedrine every day? Won't tolerance go up without a break, so after a while you just take it to feel 'normal'?

I didn't always take this everyday. I abused adderall freshman year with a crazy ex girlfriend eating 200s a day and was eating 40-60 mg a day and had euphoria and sociability that year she went to the shitter. Alongside it I was taking b vitamins and 800 Sam e a day and also I had so much marijuana In my system as a 10 gravity bong hits a night smoker. Then when I got off the Sam e and got home summer after freshman year I couldn't get out of the bed felt my walking was off balance, eye floaters. And it wasn't the adderall that did this to me, because while on 800 Sam e, I would preform 3 day binges and feel healthy and extremely normal the whole time. Then after that I avoided Sam e and still had euphoria from the adderall taking it twice a week, but I felt my adrenal glands were wobbly and destroyed so I took a longer break with more infrequency. I was at a new school took it more often but it wasn't until I got Dexedrine I slowly ended up eating it daily to by now be able to observe where it falls short in mood but it's still pleasurable and works but 40-50 mg let's say not being that euphoric it still is a rush with tangible strong effects it just gets less and less less tingly each week to the point where itl be boring and apathetic and less mobile.

You stop wanting to move as much Is when you know your feel good adrenaline is gone despite getting the
Same but now much more boring but still powerful head high that gives its own reason to be worth holding off quitting.
The power and feeling in real life terms on top of things aspect never goes away only the pleasure sinks but you have to want it to be more pleasurable to take the long breaks you need.

Cannabis simultaneously is always in my system with it now which lets you relax on this weird amphetamine reality unlike:

 

[Sobrietysucks]

I didn't always take this everyday. I abused adderall freshman year with a crazy ex girlfriend eating 200s a day and was eating 40-60 mg a day and had euphoria and sociability that year she went to the shitter. Alongside it I was taking b vitamins and 800 Sam e a day and also I had so much marijuana In my system as a 10 gravity bong hits a night smoker. Then when I got off the Sam e and got home summer after freshman year I couldn't get out of the bed felt my walking was off balance, eye floaters. And it wasn't the adderall that did this to me, because while on 800 Sam e, I would preform 3 day binges and feel healthy and extremely normal the whole time. Then after that I avoided Sam e and still had euphoria from the adderall taking it twice a week, but I felt my adrenal glands were wobbly and destroyed so I took a longer break with more infrequency. I was at a new school took it more often but it wasn't until I got Dexedrine I slowly ended up eating it daily to by now be able to observe where it falls short in mood but it's still pleasurable and works but 40-50 mg let's say not being that euphoric it still is a rush with tangible strong effects it just gets less and less less tingly each week to the point where itl be boring and apathetic and less mobile.

You stop wanting to move as much Is when you know your feel good adrenaline is gone despite getting the
Same but now much more boring but powerful head high

How long have you been on the 40-50mg dose?

 

[xbandit07x]

For 3 months. I was employee of the month at my summer job on this amount and weed, but I have very deep dissatisfaction that high doses never look like I'm on speed.

This is what happens when all the pleasured is gone, but the power remains, eerie but interesting girls account, just read her language style:

https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=67797

This may also be a result of no marijuana with it.

I think she captures the exact pathology of the drug if every part of your personality was changed by what the Dex wants you to think.

She sounds like the most spoiled bitch in the world, selfish, ungrateful for her family, complete world view like the Grinch but she lives as a caracture of the type of ego from amphetamine, just fathom
How much different this is of a personality hijack compared to cocaine.

Amphetamine is really one of the hardest drugs on personality change; because while on it your a character of an ego that isn't real so it's fun for that reason if you don't take it seriously.

"I'm an honors student, and I always have been as long as I am drugged up. Just two weeks ago, I popped two 10 mg spansules about four hours before I had a paper to write (spansules take an hour or two to kick on, unlike other forms or doing a line), and wrote eleven pages of a very complicated Philosophy paper in about three hours. " - Jen, Erwoid

Even this basic sentence she writes sounds like she's selfish and it's like luringly sexy to read. Like this is someone's life hahahahaha

The way she writes is something I can relate to when I'm
Fapping while on Dexedrine, it's that line of selfish tone that seems appealing

 

[Sobrietysucks]

For 3 months. I was employee of the month at my summer job on this amount and weed, but I have very deep dissatisfaction that high doses never look like I'm on speed.

This is what happens when all the pleasured is gone, but the power remains, eerie but interesting girls account, just read her language style:

https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=67797

This may also be a result of no marijuana with it.

I think she captures the exact pathology of the drug if every part of your personality was changed by what the Dex wants you to think.

She sounds like the most spoiled bitch in the world, selfish, disrespects her family, complete world view like the Grinch.

Do you sometimes regret some of the things you did on add meds? Get a bit over confident and do things you normally wouldn't do? At that moment it felt right, but after wards you ask yourself "What the hell was i thinking?" Like spend too much money, etc.

 

[xbandit07x]

Do you sometimes regret the things you did on add meds? me. You get a bit over confident and do things you normally wouldn't do? Like spend too much money, etc.

No since it doesn't change anything besides adds an overlay feeling of confidence/ euphoria / contentment, it didn't make me personally act differently on some kind of Autopilot.

It's more about, wow I feel this much extra satisfaction and immunity, therefore I just felt very good around people and while doing things. it helps I have the Mao a 2R gene, which makes my serotonin never go away therefore I can virtually feel too OP as a brain chemistry kinda when I make myself content. It's the high serotonin levels that make me physically very grounded but the Dexedrine allows me to unlock a personal confidence and satisfaction that I was always very awkward and shy and desired to troll and piss off from those excessive serotonin levels.

It balances so perfectly for my ability to feel no more odd guy even
Slight weirdo behavior vibes from myself to randos, and instead, popular humble shameless content.

 

[xbandit07x]

Not that I was a weird internally, but externally my impulses were so bad, I couldn't hold a conversation without blurting anything to troll, I was so effected by the sensory processes of people Around me that I could not help but change my facial expression or walk off guard from people looking at me or if I thought they judged me at ALL. By the way . The mao a 2r gene is only found in .0001% of white men and 5% of black men, the gangster type, uses weapons in fights, cannot stop feeling like their territory is there's.

And I have that somehow from 23 and me testing and I look nothing like some swaggot or guido I'm like ripped Abs 9.5/10 facj aesthetic and Greek German Italian and I STILL had every one of these problems and amphetamine's like corrected it all.

I'm
Using like a special Riboflavin to lower serotonin and make my Mao a gene not function like a Mao inhibitor. I also have Comt Val/Val which dumps and destroys dopamine very fast, which is why by the time I even get Dex in my system it's gone fasr

Since Mao and comt both are the main amphetamine breakdowns, I need like a ton but too much in one day has lingering strength even spread out

 

[Sobrietysucks]

Not that I was a weird internally, but externally my impulses were so bad, I couldn't hold a conversation without blurting anything to troll, I was so effected by the sensory processes of people Around me that I could not help but change my facial expression or walk off guard from people looking at me or if I thought they judged me at ALL. By the way . The mao a 2r gene is only found in .0001% of white men and 5% of black men, the gangster type, uses weapons in fights, cannot stop feeling like their territory is there's.

And I have that somehow from 23 and me testing and I look nothing like some swaggot or guido I'm like ripped Abs 9.5/10 facj aesthetic and Greek German Italian and I STILL had every one of these problems and amphetamine's like corrected it all.

I'm
Using like a special Riboflavin to lower serotonin and make my Mao a gene not function like a Mao inhibitor. I also have Comt Val/Val which dumps and destroys dopamine very fast, which is why by the time I even get Dex in my system it's gone fasr

Wat happened to ur gf dude? Mine was on meth and she bled in a swiming pool. So i called 911 and last I heard of her, she was in the loony bin. High dose of amp is same thing as Meth.
You said she took 200-300mg amp and went bonkers? Was it because of the tolerance that built up to this dose or did she just go crazy with the doses?

 

[xbandit07x]

Boston college ahahahahaha. Yeah she was a Massachusetts rich girl with borderline personality disorder and histrionic was her biggest tendency. She claimed she liked adderall but she was in Hysteria and mania everyday. Literally shaking in overstimulation with so much rage swinging her fists. She was drinking 30 shots of vodka a day, with handfuls of adderall xr IR vyvanse at once and she ended up getting kicked out and lived on the street of the darkest places in Massachusetts lol

The schools yik yak declared her as Meth girl, because the one time I did meth ever a short Asian friend ordered it from the dark web, next morning on Meth her Roomate had like told on her, and after smoking three joints still on if the next day, we were sitting infront of the police on meth and she was being questionined.

The powder they found on her desk was the baking soda used to potentiate it AHAHAHA

I will never go back to the horrid of Massachusetts again

 

[xbandit07x]

And the Personal experience with "C" grade meth Is I felt finally like I had no more racing mind it or desire, and nothing else to it, it was just like, end Reward deficiency syndrome completely very little euphoria,but it was the ultimate acceptance of "I'm willing to stay awake and need nothing" lol. I have such a severe dopamine deficiency there was no rush nothing I felt just like There with the most basic of blank and okay regularity. Specifically I felt like all Alteriur motives or pondering of how to modify anything vanished.

She claimed this was soldier meth, the type meant to keep you calmly prepared and calm in blankness used in WW2, and that some blue Heisenberg vendor or something whom she had sent to her house winter break before knowing her and binged for 2 weeks she said was entirely stronger and more happy and balls to walls. Thank god I probobally had like 2-Fma or something weaker.