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D-Amp Abuse vs. Meth/Cocaine,Crack.

Get2Think

Get2Think

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Hey guys I'm more of a downers guy myself (alcohol, opiates, benzos) but lately I have been prescribed a script of dextroamphetamine which I have just gone balls to the wall with. I've been on adderall and amphetamine salts and they use to give me panick attacks about my heart which the d-amp doesnt do, esp when I mix it with klonnopin.

Okay, but heres what I need to find out. I'm obviously not eating as much, sleeping as much, but I am getting a hell of a lot of things done in the last 3 days but I dose repeatedly throughout the day mostly taking the 15mg spansules orally, but now I'm really liking crushing them up and railing them for a quick "comedown fix."

I haven't experienced any psychosis or negative problems really, but after the first dose the euphoria diminished rapidly and I just worry because I'm probley taking anywhere from 70-120mg everyday and plan to continue until Friday when finals are over. Obviously I know this isn't good for my heart but I do have a tolerance and have done meth and coke in the past, and abused the hell out of adderall.

So should I even be worried about the negative health affects since people binge on coke, crack, and meth for weeks, months, years, and I don't have an underlying heart condition and am in good health. But I want to never come down until its 4am then I'll sleep a little, wake up, and immeditately pop 30-50mg to get me going, then like another 50mg at lunch, and then probley like 80mg more by the time I go to sleep.

It's abuse I know, but I'm enjoying it quite a lot. So how does what I'm doing compare with people who smoke meth, crack, or snort cocaine everyday for long periods of time. My heart doesn't even beat that fast with 100mg d-amp in my system, maybe because I'm taking klonnopin with it. What do you guys think, opinions? Thoughts?
 
its still really bad for you to binge, and it has a tendency to suck you down into addiction, or the feeling of needing it. and not eating or sleeping enough for a long period of time makes it so much worse. i kinda went off the deep end with meth over the last few months and it has all caught up to me. when you never actually come down its harder to notice how much youre really slipping. every second weekend use if you can actually keep it to the weekend is not as bad as long as you sleep and eat and stop by sunday morning so you can get sleep for work.

tl;dr -Its probably not quite as bad as major major crackfiends/cokeheads, or jibteks but its really not much better. while it is less damaging to your brain than meth, its still doing a fair amount of damage which if you keep it up long enough may be permanent.
the combo of taking kpin all the time with it is actually probably worse for your cardiovascular system than just the d amp alone. Its a icy set of stairs when you start pharma speedballing.
 
What the previous poster said about that kind of usage having a tendency to suck you down into addiction is absolutely right. I've been exactly where you are here now and I can totally understand that compulsive need to redoes and not lose the high, to keep it going for just a little bit longer.

Don't. Eat. Sleep. The d-amp stops working as well when you aren't properly well rested, well nourished and well-hydrated. If you don't do those things, you're on the fast track to amphetamine psychosis which is, of course, not very pretty. And the wonderful thing about it is that you never really see it coming until it's already there because you don't feel the need to do all those things that involve taking care of yourself. In my case, I was usually no longer to spell or write a coherent sentence by the time I realised I'd taken it too far - and then the delusions and voices are pretty much upon you.

As for comparing it to meth and coke…does it matter? There's no point comparing. They'll all end you up in the same place eventually once addicted. I have nothing against substance abuse - hell, I'd be a hypocrite if I did. But try and take care of yourself physically - if not for your health, at least because it has a major impact on how much enjoyment you end up getting from using.
 
It's not so much addiction I'm concerned about, I'm well aware that I will abuse and become addicted to anything that makes me feel the way I want to feel, essentially better. It's just 4 or 5 days now of constant use of d-amphetamine and I can now sleep and eat on it but what really scares me is dieing from a heart attack or something. Uppers just have that affect on me, hypochondriac dellusions where you imagine things and actually feel them.

D-amp is waaaay better then that l-amp in Adderall for anxiety and what not. But I want to keep doing it, but like this morning I took 60mg of XR d-amp and my eyes were pinned and I barely felt anything. How high can I go with this before I'm really in the danger zone, heart-wise, not addiction wise. See right now I've probley done at least 100mg and I feel blah and tired and I just want to crush those beads up and keep going. Basically I've been outrunning the comedown part for 4-5 days, with enough sleep and food everyday. But damn my tolerance holy crap, is my only option to feel the euphoria and ambition and stuff to take a week or more off? Or can I just do 200mg and maybe I'll get to where I wanna be. I have k-pins which I've been using also, and suboxone.
 
Think about the things that matter in your life and figure out an escape plan.

You say you have finals on Friday??

Don't run through your script before you even get to finals.
I don't know how far you are, but it's easy to rationalize and chase that euphoria, and then Thursday morning you are wondering where the fuck your Rx went.

These pills don't seem to be for you, refilling next month would probably be a bad idea.
 
I agree, I need to get off both these and k-pins. It's weird how 'moreish' d-amp is, and I've noticed that I get way more satisfaction out of snorting em then taking em cause they are XR. I just took a couple more benzos because all day I've been paranoid and sort of worried about my heart. It's always during the comedown when this occurs. So now I'm just trying to do little bumps of dex until im ready to pass out. Hopefully the benzos will slow my heart, and I'll be alright even though I took definitly over 100mg dex. But I just keep telling myself, well... whats the difference between that and people who binge on meth? I'm sure it's not healthy but as long as it doesn't kill me I'm enjoying it.. Doing cocaine makes me freak out way more than d-amp, meth too. So I guess I'm alright because I'm experienced.
 
I've just worked my way out of d-amphetamine addiction exactly how you are, allthough your in the early stages mine lasted for a few months.

Just because it is pharm grade doesn't mean it isn't bad in terms of addiction... if anything probably worse as it means you have a readily availible supply of the drug which was the case for me, I was eating dexies like lollies... literally. I use meth recreationally here and there though, as much as it is more potent and addictive (espeiclaly seeing as my ROA is smoking), it is nowhere near as bad as what my d-amp addiction was due to the price and therefore availibility of methamp, for me anyway where I live.

Half of the drug users in the world and addictions are from pharm grade drugs... Benzos, prescription opiates (big one) and amphetamines (adderall and dexedrine)... Just because they are from a pharmacy does not change the fact that they still pose a danger of addiction and harm, it is afterall why they are controlled.

The only thing safer about using pharm grade drugs compared to street grade produced drugs is that with the pharm ones, your stuff is being made in a controlled labortory to standards and you are in controll of your exact dose, but like I said the addiciton and harm potential is still there.

You won't get that euphoria back dude, please, take it from me, it took me a few months to learn that and it wasnt until I flushed my stash down the toilet and told my doctor "I don't think these are working well for me" that my problem stopped. D-amp is deffintly fiendish dude, but you wont get the euphoria back!

The only way to get it back is to limit your use and use resposibly with sufficient breaks and HR practises.
 
snorting them is useless, it'll cause mostly a placebo effect and it'll end up being absorbed in your stomach anyway, the beads in the spanules are covered in wax and won't absorb in your nose! Unless you have IRs. You can open up the capsule and dump the beads down your throat if you wish but the spanules kick in fast anyway.

I take 40mg of the spanules/day. Dr will script 80mg/day no problem, it's not something you want to binge on if you want to use it as an effective medication to improve your life. It's incredibly addictive as well, i don't like stims either but i'd probably shoot somebody if they stole my dexedrine. Nevertheless i try to stay at as low of a dose as possible. I could easily start taking 160mg/day but what's the point? i'll end up not having any left and that will be completely shitty.

I also take etizolam daily so i can relate to how functional the combo will make you, just don't fuck that up by abusing it. You can have the best of both worlds if you keep your dose of both to a reasonable level. Addiction will destroy this completely. Just think about that before you binge on it, if you can't control yourself then i don't know, you're going to end up causing yourself a shit load of problems. As well i can guarantee the more d-amp you take the more k-pin you'll take, this kind of addictive behavior will end up destroying you and you'll likely lose both prescriptions if your life falls apart because of it. Be happy that you are getting decent meds that will allow you to live functionally and stop abusing them. If you want to get high, use something else.
 
OP is basically saying, i know it's abuse, i know its bad for everyone else, but I'm hoping it's not as bad for me so tell me I can do it safely. And that's just not going to happen. Your life is definitely gonna fall apart with that pattern, and when it rains it pours.
 
I agree with Crashing, I used to reason with myself and use the fact that pharm grade drugs MUST be better than street drugs... Like I said, it is just as bad.
 
I know it's bad, so I might as well be doing meth and smoking crack as your basically saying an upper is an upper is an upper? I thought D-amp was relatively safe? Tolerance is the problem, addiction isn't a new concern and I talk about that in TDS. It's just lame how inneffective the drug becomes after 6 days of continual use. I have my last final today so I'll try and slow down on the binging, or just flush the stuff. I'm still curious though if I took say 300mg would I get back that initial high of 6 days ago? If 300-500mg of d-amp is the same as meth/crack/cocaine then I'd consider trying it. To find that answer I guess I'll have to hit up erowid, drug-forums, or somewhere else because BL just isn't that hardcore, and in my opinion there is this popularity contest around here to see who can give the most HR encouraged answer even if it's falsely exaggerated, simultaneously telling people their addicts and they will die.
 
Get2Think said:
I know it's bad, so I might as well be doing meth and smoking crack as your basically saying an upper is an upper is an upper? I thought D-amp was relatively safe? Tolerance is the problem, addiction isn't a new concern and I talk about that in TDS. It's just lame how inneffective the drug becomes after 6 days of continual use. I have my last final today so I'll try and slow down on the binging, or just flush the stuff. I'm still curious though if I took say 300mg would I get back that initial high of 6 days ago? If 300-500mg of d-amp is the same as meth/crack/cocaine then I'd consider trying it. To find that answer I guess I'll have to hit up erowid, drug-forums, or somewhere else because BL just isn't that hardcore, and in my opinion there is this popularity contest around here to see who can give the most HR encouraged answer even if it's falsely exaggerated, simultaneously telling people their addicts and they will die.
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Think about the things that matter in your life and figure out an escape plan.

You say you have finals on Friday??

Don't run through your script before you even get to finals.
I don't know how far you are, but it's easy to rationalize and chase that euphoria, and then Thursday morning you are wondering where the fuck your Rx went.

These pills don't seem to be for you, refilling next month would probably be a bad idea.
 
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