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Misc cyclizine 50mg oral

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i live in uk and had this recently in hospital, what is the legal status of these as they helped a lot along with the oramorph liquid for pain and sickness
 
Yes the only way you can get cyclizine, especially IV, is at a hospital. In fact, a GP will first give you odansetron before giving you oral cyclizine.
 
Only because in the UK there was a large number of addicts using it in conjunction with recreational opiates for potentiation. Kind of like what happened to Soma in the States.
 
yep. I've often seen patients with no addiction history, who were getting hooked to the synergy between methadone (that they got for pain) and cyclinzine.
 
AFAIK its uncontrolled, but rx only.

I didn't have much difficulty getting this on request from my doc (changed from chlorphenamine), to go with my morphine/oxy script
for use in combating side effects. Works well for that, and as a potentiator.
 
My god that us a large dose. 10-20mg, per day is used for allergies.

Makes no sense to me when plenty of first generation antihistamines could be utilized, including it's parent, hydroxyzine, which also has no(or very little) anti-cholinergic side effects.

Ha, it amazes me, cyclizine being POM in the UK, with fucking pro methadone being OTC!(Reversed in the US)
 
Hydroxyzine is also POM in the UK, infact most 1st generation anti-histamines are POM, and are often given for anxiety as well as allergies etc.

Also, what do you mean by pro methadone? If you mean promethazine thats POM too, as is methadone.
 
Sadly you can't get cyclizine by script or OTC in Canada :( . You can still get Histantil (the Canadian brand name for Promethazine) OTC but not many pharmacies carry it and i had to get 1 to order it in for me. They only have the brand name unless you want the promethazine syrup and 100 50mg tablets costs a fair chunk of change and i can't get it for free on script cause it's OTC only unless i get the form meant for injection prescribed to me and that ain't gonna happen.

I can get Cyclizine and Methadone as well and i was wondering is this combo worth going through abit of trouble to get it? I've heard it's as close to Diconal (Dipipanone and Cyclizine in one tablet that was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread) as your going to get today so if there is any truth to that id love to give it a go. It's just a hassle to get for me more or less
 
Promethazine isn't really up to much. It has the disadvantage of being one of the phenothiazine dopamine D2 receptor antagonists, although its antipsychotic potency is very low compared to the likes of chlorpromazine, thorazine etc.

Never had cyclizine+methadone, but I like to throw a couple of 50mg cyclizine tabs in the mix when I'm prepping a shot of morphine, the two complement each other very nicely.
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
Promethazine isn't really up to much. It has the disadvantage of being one of the phenothiazine dopamine D2 receptor antagonists, although its antipsychotic potency is very low compared to the likes of chlorpromazine, thorazine etc.

Never had cyclizine+methadone, but I like to throw a couple of 50mg cyclizine tabs in the mix when I'm prepping a shot of morphine, the two complement each other very nicely.
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LimpChick - how do you get enough of the cyclizine to dissolve in your shot? another solvent? does heat help? Ive never tried cyclizine but its high up there on my list and Id like to Iv it with an opiate. I know cyc hcl is poorly soluble in h20. the lactate salt is used in the parenteral formulations.
I have heard of people boiling the tablets down to a paste or crushing them and chopping them to dust with a razor blade the shooting the water/tablet dust suspension with a large bore needle. Anybody who cares about their body and their health should NOT do this.

I brainstormed and came to the conclusion that an acid-base extraction on the tablets using lactic acid to salt the freebase was the best solution.
 
Shooting a crushed up pill slurry? good cunting christ god.

It hasn't been a problem using 3 to 5ml barrels and just plain clean H2O, seems to carry enough at least, if one is just shooting a couple of pills worth (50mg a piece). It isn't like I waste anything, as I plug the remains of the cyclizine pills/oxy/morphine combination after drawing up sufficient to take in all the morphine (solubility in H2O of morphine sulfate is 60mg/ml)

But shooting up a suspension of ground pill binders? fucking god, thats not far off as nasty as those russkis and their krokodil.
 
Ok, I stand corrected we do have promethazine hcl, as Somminex a sleep aid.

so what does one get if they crushed up a somminex, a couple of codeine phosphates and mixed it into some benadyl cough syrup?
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
Shooting a crushed up pill slurry? good cunting christ god.

It hasn't been a problem using 3 to 5ml barrels and just plain clean H2O, seems to carry enough at least, if one is just shooting a couple of pills worth (50mg a piece). It isn't like I waste anything, as I plug the remains of the cyclizine pills/oxy/morphine combination after drawing up sufficient to take in all the morphine (solubility in H2O of morphine sulfate is 60mg/ml)

But shooting up a suspension of ground pill binders? fucking god, thats not far off as nasty as those russkis and their krokodil.
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Solubility is as low as 1mg/ml i think for the cyclizine hcl. But even if you are using 4-5ml water for your morphine shots and getting 5, even 10mg say cyclizine into the solution imagine what 25mg or 50mg is going to feel like??? 8o

The diconals were 30mg cyc/ 10mg dipipanone. Id be wary going over doses of 50mg iv. dike users with heavy tolerances were said to suffer delerium and hallucinations from the large doses of an anti-cholinergic they were shooting. Btw, I believe the prep for dikes was one of the unhealthiest ever.

I love morphine but once you have a tolerance you need to be using 5ml barrels and 5ml of water. This part I do not love!!
 
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I didn't know it was THAT low.

Methinks I shall have to base some out myself and resalt it with lactic acid.
Chances are I've been getting the cyclizine absorbed, due to plugging whats left of the morphine, oxy binder leftovers and cyclizine tabs, so as not to waste any (although if one is doing 1/4g of morph in a shot, a few mg on the side of the prep container is probably not going to tip the balance strongly either way)

Those diconal have always sounded fucking tasty to me, too bad there is probably not a doctor in the country who would script those anymore. I've always loved methadone, the very few times I've been lucky enough to get hold of any (dipipanone is a methadone relative)


One problem with morphine and that kind of tolerance though is the histamine release, its actually hurt before sometimes, although not for long.
 
Hmm, I remember reading on another opiate forum of someone using cyclicine to potentiate there Methadone... They would shoot the Methadone syrup and that together...pretty sure that's not good for veins and wouldn't reccomend it though...And I've had hydroxizine before(someone was prescribed it for anxiety, and gave a fuck bunch to me..but I don't really remember it helping...)Am thinking about asking my doc for it anyway since I'm pretty sure I'm gonna pop dirty for benzo's, and if the docs not confortable with prescribing benzo's then I was gonna mention Hydroxizine or Gabapentin for anxiety...Anyway. And promethizine works wonders for potentiatieng opiates for me, got pissed because I was sold 10 of those fuckers for the price of percocets 10's, and got Lortab "10's"(they were 5mg) so I ended up taking all ten of the Lortab's w/ 2 Promethizne and had a very enjoyable nod from that...still was very pissed about being THAT ripped off though...
 
EP158207 said:
so what does one get if they crushed up a somminex, a couple of codeine phosphates and mixed it into some benadyl cough syrup?
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Anti-cholinergic toxicity.

And damnit, I was having an off day, we're talking about cyclizine, not cetirizine!

I am humiliated and will go hide under a rock now...
 
Lorne??? said:
Anti-cholinergic toxicity.

And damnit, I was having an off day, we're talking about cyclizine, not cetirizine!

I am humiliated and will go hide under a rock now...
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hahahahaha.

Hey, clear your inbox i need to PM you.
 
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