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CWE, Tell me if final solution was okay

ThisIsKitty

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Im very sorry for the amount of CWE threads, but paranoia always kicks in after I drink it.

I put the solution into the freezer for about 20 minutes, took it out and used a teaspoon to take the water above the sludge out and put it in the filter. There was about a tablespoon left of sludge, and after it went through the filter process (Double coffee filters) there was a shit ton of sludge in the filters. I ended up losing half my liquid somehow through the process. I decided to do the CWE one more time so I put the solution back in the freezer (It ended up freezing around the sides). When I took it out there wasnt really a sludge at the bottom but it was still cloudy. I filtered it again with one filter, and noticed no sludge in the filter after it went through. My final product was cloudy but I could see my hand through the bottom. I could also see me floor while looking over it (it was about 3 and a half feet above the ground). Id say it was relatively clear, just cloudy with a tiny bit of chalkiness. When I put it up to the light I noticed solids in it, but they were countable. Id say about 20 - 30 specs floating around.

All in all the final product was pretty transparent, with cloudiness and some specs. Tasted REALLY bitter. I used 6gs of APAP, and I ended up squeezing the rest of the solution out of the filter into the cup because I lost patience. I know its hard for you guys to determine this, but given the way I did it and the description of the liquid, you think I got most of the APAP out? I just dont wanna be another statistic.

I used 50ml of water, only had about 25ml left after the first filtration so I put 25 more ml back in before refreezing it.
 
Once I CWE'd over 100 tablets and all I did was put them in tap water (2ml of water per tab). Waited til they dissolved then strained through a dress shirt once, then squeezed as hard as I could. I've never put them in a freezer or used coffee filters, takes too long. Doc said my liver is perfectly healthy and I've done this 40+ times. No matter how many times I've filtered, it always comes out a bit cloudy. Some brands have even made the solution yellow.
 
Hello,

I tried this with 14 5/500 vikes.

My final product was cloudy but very few specs in it. I would say I filtered out a ping pong ball size amount of stuff.(white chalk like substance).

You think I did alright? I feel pretty good, but now Im a bit paranoid because I only filtered once.

Is it possible for the acetaminophen to dilute in the water?

My whole process.

1. Crushed pills
2. added pills to 200ml of very warm water.(I read to use 100ml but that didnt seem like enough)
3.shook water till I couldnt see much of anything on the bottom.
4.poured product into bowl and placed in freezer.
5. took it out 15-20 mins later
6.Poured through coffee filter into cup(squeezed most of fluid out without breaking or getting any of the chalk like substance into drink)
7. Drank it all
8. made this post..

Appreciate any reply.

Thanks
 
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Hello,

I tried this with 14 5/500 vikes.

My final product was cloudy but very few specs in it. I would say I filtered out a ping pong ball size amount of stuff.(white chalk like substance).

You think I did alright? I feel pretty good, but now Im a bit paranoid because I only filtered once.

Is it possible for the acetaminophen to dilute in the water?

My whole process.

1. Crushed pills
2. added pills to 200ml of very warm water.(I read to use 100ml but that didnt seem like enough)
3.shook water till I couldnt see much of anything on the bottom.
4.poured product into bowl and placed in freezer.
5. took it out 15-20 mins later
6.Poured through coffee filter into cup(squeezed most of fluid out without breaking or getting any of the chalk like substance into drink)
7. Drank it all
8. made this post..

Appreciate any reply.

Thanks


First thing I wanna point out, 200ml is wayyy too much water. APAP Or Paracetamol disolves in water at about 1g for every 100mls meaning 2gs of APAP probably got through the extraction. Rules of thumb is usually 2ml of water per pill (I usually use 50ml if im extracting from 20 pills). The fact that you filtered out a ping pong sized ball of sludge indicates you may have gotten most of it out. Im no chemist though, this is what I read up on some in depth CWE guides.

You most likely didnt ingest more than 3 or 4 grams of APAP and even if you did you should be alright. 3gs is usually the allowance per 24 hours. I only double filtered because I screwed up my first 2 CWEs and feared I may have let too much APAP into my solution.

I know the feeling of drinking your solution and then worrying about your liver, its not fun and it can be a serious buzz kill. As long as you didnt drink, or didnt consume tylenol in the last 24 hours of drinking it, youll be fine. Just keep the 2ml per pill rule in mind next time you do a CWE.
 
Thank you for reply Kitty, greatly appreciated. I read up on this before trying on my own but I didnt read that APAP dissolves in water like that. I actually read that more water was better than less.

welcome to bluelight btw.


I should mention that I was in severe pain before I drank this but now I don't feel a thing!

stay safe
 
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Thank you for reply Kitty, greatly appreciated. I read up on this before trying on my own but I didnt read that APAP dissolves in water like that. I actually read that more water was better than less.

welcome to bluelight btw.


I should mention that I was in severe pain before I drank this but now I don't feel a thing!

stay safe

if you feel the vicodin euphoria, then you probably did it right! cheers! be safe, donit drive!!

Im very sorry for the amount of CWE threads, but paranoia always kicks in after I drink it.

I put the solution into the freezer for about 20 minutes, took it out and used a teaspoon to take the water above the sludge out and put it in the filter. There was about a tablespoon left of sludge, and after it went through the filter process (Double coffee filters) there was a shit ton of sludge in the filters. I ended up losing half my liquid somehow through the process. I decided to do the CWE one more time so I put the solution back in the freezer (It ended up freezing around the sides). When I took it out there wasnt really a sludge at the bottom but it was still cloudy. I filtered it again with one filter, and noticed no sludge in the filter after it went through. My final product was cloudy but I could see my hand through the bottom. I could also see me floor while looking over it (it was about 3 and a half feet above the ground). Id say it was relatively clear, just cloudy with a tiny bit of chalkiness. When I put it up to the light I noticed solids in it, but they were countable. Id say about 20 - 30 specs floating around.

All in all the final product was pretty transparent, with cloudiness and some specs. Tasted REALLY bitter. I used 6gs of APAP, and I ended up squeezing the rest of the solution out of the filter into the cup because I lost patience. I know its hard for you guys to determine this, but given the way I did it and the description of the liquid, you think I got most of the APAP out? I just dont wanna be another statistic.

I used 50ml of water, only had about 25ml left after the first filtration so I put 25 more ml back in before refreezing it.

it seems you did it right, have fun!!!
what exactly did you filter? it sounds like you just used like tylenol for a fun CWE looool

it sounds perfect. if it's clear you're fine.

this^
 
Once I CWE'd over 100 tablets and all I did was put them in tap water (2ml of water per tab). Waited til they dissolved then strained through a dress shirt once, then squeezed as hard as I could. I've never put them in a freezer or used coffee filters, takes too long. Doc said my liver is perfectly healthy and I've done this 40+ times. No matter how many times I've filtered, it always comes out a bit cloudy. Some brands have even made the solution yellow.

that's terrible advice, i can get completely crystal clear solutions every time i do it, that cloudiness is either a binder or acetaminophen and i personally wouldn't risk it. I've probably done CWE on 100+ tablets at least a few hundred times and i would not drink it until it was clear or until i had definitely filtered all that 'sludge' out and could assume safely that the cloudiness was due to the binding ingredients in the pill (and i'd google the pills just to see if others had the same issue). This is just some HR advice for others reading.
 
Just want to give you guys a great tip for cooling your solution. Get a large bowl that can fit your size of medium holding your solution, and half fill it with cold water and dump enough ice that you can still fit your bowl, cup, or whatever into the larger bowl. This is called an ice water bath, and it'll cool far more evenly than a freezer would.


Edit: Sorry mods if this isn't allowed, it seemed pretty innocuous to me.
 
I seemed to get through this without any ill effects but if I were to do it again Id be far more cautious. At the time I hadn't slept in a while plus my mouth/head were KILLING ME. Anyway, surprisingly enough the final solution worked(should have been 70mg hydro)took away pain for about 8 hours or so. I wasn't nodding hard or anything though...maybe slight nod and felt very good.

People should be careful before performing a CWE cause there seems to be a lot of misinformation out there. I wouldnt try it on more than 4-5g of APAP at a time unless you have done it many times before.

should note: have high tolerance to opioids but had not used any in 11-12days..

that's terrible advice, i can get completely crystal clear solutions every time i do it, that cloudiness is either a binder or acetaminophen and i personally wouldn't risk it. I've probably done CWE on 100+ tablets at least a few hundred times and i would not drink it until it was clear or until i had definitely filtered all that 'sludge' out and could assume safely that the cloudiness was due to the binding ingredients in the pill (and i'd google the pills just to see if others had the same issue). This is just some HR advice for others reading.

So the APAP can dilute into the mixture. Is it 1g per 100ml like OP said?

Can you elaborate on this because it seems like the most important part of process to me.

Thanks.
 
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I have been researching cwe methods....?????
First off
?..some say warm water is used to dissolve b4 freezing and if u skip that step ur loosing oxy....... ?
Second
? The amount of water per tab....10/325 percs.....
. If I crush 5 into 100 ml I get a gram of apap
If I crush 10 into 100 ml I still only get one gram apap
However if I make two seperate solutions of 5 tabs dissolved in 100 ml water I then get 2g apap??
 
that's terrible advice, i can get completely crystal clear solutions every time i do it, that cloudiness is either a binder or acetaminophen and i personally wouldn't risk it. I've probably done CWE on 100+ tablets at least a few hundred times and i would not drink it until it was clear or until i had definitely filtered all that 'sludge' out and could assume safely that the cloudiness was due to the binding ingredients in the pill (and i'd google the pills just to see if others had the same issue). This is just some HR advice for others reading.


Im using Tylenol 1 pills. I find theres always going to be some level of cloudiness. I just performed a CWE on 25 pills with 100ml of water. I filtered twice and got a pretty damn clear solution. I could see my toes when I Held the cup up above my waist while looking through the top. But after reading your post here I decided to refreeze it just to make sure. I took it out of the freezer and I saw nothing floating around at all, I filtered once more (3 filters now) and it filtered extremely fast (Like 1 minute) and there was absolutely no white spots in the dress shirt at all but the final product was still cloudy. When I say cloudy, I dont mean like omg I cant see through it. I mean cloudy like... it was clear but had a tiny bit of opaqueness too it. It could also be because the water was cold.. when waters cold its cloudy.

All in all, I dont think anyone is going to have a pure crystal clear solution
 
warm water is a really REALLY bad idea when it comes to dissolving APAP tablets. it's solubility is remarkably higher in warm water than cold. i'm trying a cwe at the moment (which i'm absolutely shit at) and i'm using pure cold water from the fridge with an ice cube in it.

i have 64 tablets mixed in there, and frankly if swallow all that apap i'm a gonner. i'm going to wait for them to fully dissolve in the cold water and then drain out the top bit through a coffee filter, then throw the sludge into a double wrapped coffee filter. i've used about 50-80mls of water for the tablets (just enough to cover them all) and i don't see why you'd need to use more tbh.
 
If u want i can post pics on 200 pill t1 solutions that are crystal clear, could just be cloudy from binders in ur case either way be safe
 
i think it was binders, as there was a shitload of sludge at the bottom of my mix and im feeling the symptoms of opiate withdrawal subsiding... quite substantially actually. it's fucking lovely.

damn generic pharmacy brand only tablets for dirt cheap money. i filtered the solution twice, and anyway apap is only somewhat soluble in 60-80ml of water, and it was around 1-2 degrees. water was bitter as hell, but i think it worked. woohoo on perhaps my first proper extraction!

i know when i tried with a non-chemist brand, unfortunately the stupid tablets were coated in some red crap, but the filter i got was pretty damn clear along with a red hue. wasn't as bitter as this one though. well, we'll see.

i'd like to see those pics actually - if ya wouldn't mind showing me :)

i think that mine was cloudy as hell because of the binders. i tried doing it with a few more tablets and it came out a bit clearer - but the water was warm. now thats a bit scary, because apap is much more soluble in warmer water. actually wait no, its just as fucking cloudy. i could just see the residue more clearly through the glass of warmer water - it just didn't seem to settle in the cold water. i think it's because i crushed the fuck out the tablets WHILE they were in cold water.
 
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i took a whole video extracting and reducing t1s and t3s lol ill get some screen caps, often it's just the pill binders clouding the solution though, you're right not much tylenolol will dissolve in such little water so it's not a big deal however i was doing this 2-3 times a day which is why i tried my absolute best for the clearest solution possible. You learn new tricks every time you do it so you'll be a pro one day.
 
Alright guys im gonna perform a cwe again, this time on 30 pills. I have 44 pills left, ill save the last 14 for another time. Ill let you know how it looks

warm water is a really REALLY bad idea when it comes to dissolving APAP tablets. it's solubility is remarkably higher in warm water than cold. i'm trying a cwe at the moment (which i'm absolutely shit at) and i'm using pure cold water from the fridge with an ice cube in it.

i have 64 tablets mixed in there, and frankly if swallow all that apap i'm a gonner. i'm going to wait for them to fully dissolve in the cold water and then drain out the top bit through a coffee filter, then throw the sludge into a double wrapped coffee filter. i've used about 50-80mls of water for the tablets (just enough to cover them all) and i don't see why you'd need to use more tbh.

Ah but you put it in warm water first to dissolve the opiate, and then you place it in the freezer to crystallize the APAP !
 
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Ok.....reall wish I had found this forum earlier cause I got the word on solubility of apap in relation to the amount of water used a bit late ( two batches )
Fortunately I used less than 100ml on each batch just cause it seemed to work better
Should have used 50 but at least I didn't use 2 or 3 hundred!!!!!!


Ok BIG QUESTIoN.........
Warm water to dissolve the tabs or cold.....seems am I reading the post correct, cause some people say warm and others say cold
Is this a preference issue?????
 
Ok.....reall wish I had found this forum earlier cause I got the word on solubility of apap in relation to the amount of water used a bit late ( two batches )
Fortunately I used less than 100ml on each batch just cause it seemed to work better
Should have used 50 but at least I didn't use 2 or 3 hundred!!!!!!


Ok BIG QUESTIoN.........
Warm water to dissolve the tabs or cold.....seems am I reading the post correct, cause some people say warm and others say cold
Is this a preference issue?????


From what I have read up, mixing it in warm water first will help the opiate dissolve faster into the water, and then placing it in the freezer, will seperate the APAP. But again, thats just what I read up; I think robotrippin would have a much better answer for you. Either way though you should be fine and still get high
 
From what I have read up, mixing it in warm water first will help the opiate dissolve faster into the water, and then placing it in the freezer, will seperate the APAP. But again, thats just what I read up; I think robotrippin would have a much better answer for you. Either way though you should be fine and still get high

That is what I read.

I don't believe it says to start with cold water anywhere in the CWE sticky(OP anyway).

Perhaps someone like Robotrip should update the sticky with a better/safer process.
 
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