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garuda

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Anyone here ever think we are cutting our own throats discussing things on publically accessible drug boards?

I'm not talking about already illegal shit like coke, MJ, MDMA. I'm talking about research chems, unscheduled drugs, herbs, legal yet obscure drugs.

I can guarantee this board is mirrored weekly(maybe even daily) by the DEA and who knows who else, not to mention all the other boards out there and newsgroups. You can bet they read and monitor for emerging trends and new discoveries by our "scene". That doesn't even include the media who have quoted posts on boards before, but always the dumbest ones.

There has to be a better way, I can't come up with it though.

I'm just annoyed that we have lost so much, and are probably soon to lose more.
And I can't afford to buy lifetime supplies of everything I'm interested in, and most of this stuff will just plain be dead as there will be no black market for it.

And please a plea to the members, can you please avoid killing sources? Don't order with email addresses like 420tripper@hotmail, it gets used as evidence later on by the DEA. Don't be an ass in stores, it makes you feel cool to tell the little old lady at the counter you trip balls off dexalone, but what do you know next time its off the shelf.
 
I think that most people on this board are retarded. They openly admit to using, making, growing, selling and abusing drugs. All their posts are associated with their username, which is logged to an IP address which can be traced, and is unique to their internet account given to them by their internet provider.

There is no protection on the internet - people just don't see the internet as a parallel to physcial society. The difference in the internet is that information is saved and easily searched. Just because people don't get the internet, it means that conscious people have to suffer.

I know most people on this board wouldn't talk loud in a group for fear of being overheard - so why would they post a message, on a public website which is extremely popular, where it is there until the board is deleted? I don't think the majority of the members would act like this in real life, so why do it here? Heatscore activity.

Logic escapes.

It is fairly easy not to be irresponsible
 
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says the greenlighter these boards are based in a country with some sense regarding drugs and I dont think they log IP adresses. Unless you got a kilo under your bed your strait. Taloking about RCs and shit ium not so sure about one of those damned if you do damned if you dont things.
 
^ Obviously they log IP addresses, I'm not sure how long they're required to keep them though.

I'm pretty sure the US government couldn't request any data from this site (The servers aren't based in the US - They're based in The Netherlands)

I don't really thing they care about RCs either, They don't just go hunting for RCs to make illegal, they wait for a group of people to overdose and then start.

Plus - I don't even have a internet connection, 5 of my surrounding neighbors have strong enough Wi-Fi connections that I just jump between them. :)
 
garuda said:
And please a plea to the members, can you please avoid killing sources? Don't order with email addresses like 420tripper@hotmail, it gets used as evidence later on by the DEA. Don't be an ass in stores, it makes you feel cool to tell the little old lady at the counter you trip balls off dexalone, but what do you know next time its off the shelf.
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Dexa-what? Look man, I agree *to some extent* with what you're saying, but people have been talking about the specific drug I think you're referring to (in the last sentence) since the 1960s! It's been extensively reviewed, and they've decided it has a low abuse potential and is safe to be sold OTC. Do you know how bureacracies work? I could go outside the police station every day and shout about the drug in question... I'd be locked up as a nut, and it would stay for sale OTC. If 1000 people did it instead of just me, the same scenario would occur.

Anyway, yeah maybe we're shooting ourselves in the foot talking so much about certain RC's but then WTF are we supposed to talk about on a board like this? You can't talk openly about illegal use (or shouldn't, if you want to stay out of prison) so that leaves legal stuff. If you have a better idea about subject matter on a forum like this, I'm all ears...

P.S. to reflect comment I saw posted on another board - between the "war on meth," the "war on terrorism," the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and possible war now with Iran, do you REALLY think the U.S. DEA has the funding to do what you say it does? Where is this money supposed to be coming from? This is what right-wingers want, to drain the government dry of funds, and they've been working on it since Bush came into office... I wouldn't worry too much about the DEA going crazy on anything.
 
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the username i'm using is so associated with my entire internet presence that a simple google search would yield all of my personal information
 
lolitsjohn said:
the username i'm using is so associated with my entire internet presence that a simple google search would yield all of my personal information
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Well in that case, you're just stupid. Sorry, but you know that and are still posting with that user name on a drug-related forum?
 
lolitsjohn said:
the username i'm using is so associated with my entire internet presence that a simple google search would yield all of my personal information
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I tried before i realized the sarcasm LOL
 
Omega Waves said:
I think that most people on this board are retarded. They openly admit to using, making, growing, selling and abusing drugs. All their posts are associated with their username, which is logged to an IP address which can be traced, and is unique to their internet account given to them by their internet provider.

There is no protection on the internet - people just don't see the internet as a parallel to physcial society. The difference in the internet is that information is saved and easily searched. Just because people don't get the internet, it means that conscious people have to suffer.

I know most people on this board wouldn't talk loud in a group for fear of being overheard - so why would they post a message, on a public website which is extremely popular, where it is there until the board is deleted? I don't think the majority of the members would act like this in real life, so why do it here? Heatscore activity.

Logic escapes.

It is fairly easy not to be irresponsible
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Are you mad??

Seriously, there is NOTHING illegal about talking about drugs. As long as you aren't like, "Hi, I have 10 keys of coke, any buyers?" you have nothing to worry about.
 
I think they keep IP logs for 48hrs or so. It's mentioned in the support forum somewhere.

Like everything else some people are more concerned about their anonymity than others. Take the gallery or other forums on this site for example. In those places people constantly post photos of themselves.

With a little commonsense you can post here and remain adequately anonymous.
 
...or if you just come here for lighthearted discussion and you just happen to know a tidbit or two about drugs you really have nothing to worry about either.
 
What the hell would the DEA want with bluelight.ru?

99% of the users here are personal users.

Plenty of more interesting sites.
 
I don't admit to serious illegal activity on here. And, I don't really do anything seriously illegal, anyway.

Once upon a time there was a discussion board called "The Hive", related to drug synthesis. My Uncle Ralph used to have a gardener whose transvestite hooker girlfriend used to post to it...she would only do so from public terminals, so there was no trail of any kind.
 
I wasn't talking about self incrimination, I'm not worried about the DEA looking for possession arrests here. I am worried about them tracking emerging drugs and trends and using that info to kill the market for interesting things.

Just as an example Betel nut, it had been sold for a long time by asian and indian groceries in the US. Then finally some internet sites started selling it, it got talked about on some boards and blogs. Then BLAM the sites selling it said they can't import anymore, import stores were actually visited by supposed DEA agents who lied that it was schedule 1 and scared them into stop selling it(at least openly). Thats the kind of crap I'm talking about.

And it doesn't take a law, retailers especially non-nationwide chains will yank stuff from the shelf if people act like douche bags and run their mouth.
 
Look man, I agree *to some extent* with what you're saying
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I think that the discussion is good for the most part. I think the reason that a lot of the lesser known trends get big and explode is because of stupid people just hearing about something and then getting crazy with it. Then when five or so kids die from something, the politicians say "We need to address this horrible problem" for a PR boost, and then it gets banned. I think that discussion is good because it is (supposed to be) in the spirit of harm reduction. So instead of some kid thinking "Hey SWIM told me about those CCC pills and I have some at home. I wonder how many of these CCC pills I can take?" he will read this board or a similar board and think "Hey I'm glad I didn't take those CCC pills."
I could go outside the police station every day and shout about the drug in question... I'd be locked up as a nut, and it would stay for sale OTC. If 1000 people did it instead of just me, the same scenario would occur.
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I think that this is true, its not the discussion it is the stupid people out there who do stupid things because they are not educated and ruin it for everyone else. So if the board stays the course on the harm reduction there will be less stupidity and less media hype and less laws. Vote Libertarian.
 
GHB was used safely and responsibly...

...by people who were into fitness, went to gyms, etc. for many years Then, it hit the mainstream...became the "date rape drug."

Now, the fun's over. More's the pity. Used wisely, I think it's among the least harmful of recreational drugs.
 
BTW, I thought it worth saying...

garuda said:
I'm just annoyed that we have lost so much, and are probably soon to lose more. And I can't afford to buy lifetime supplies of everything I'm interested in, and most of this stuff will just plain be dead as there will be no black market for it.
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You are going to lose more than that (like your life) eventually, so take a deep breath and just...... let..... them...... go.

*Poof*, easy come easy go. It truly does not matter, man... has something new ever failed to come along before?
 
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