Cutting body fat

[-Guido-]

Yeah, gh15 is a smart guy. There are rumors that it's actually Nasser, whether that's true or not I have no idea. I enjoy his no sugar coating approach but I have to disagree with him on the point that bodybuilding is a lifestyle that is unsustainable in regards to drug-free training. That type of thinking is just fundamentally flawed in it's very nature because plenty of people have and continue to sustain it naturally. He seems too bitter about his past competitions at times and that results in such controversial statements. It's just an undermining of individual effort.

I think he is referring to the fact that bodybuilding in terms of going "pro" can't be done without drugs and a lot of the self proclaimed natural bodybuilders, Layne Norton for example, have used and continue to use steroids and other compounds. The rumors are true by the way, but Nasser himself won't admit it because it would cause a shitstorm of controversy in the bodybuilding community.

 

[auhsoJ]

You post over at GH15? If you don't you would love it there. Registration is closed for the time being but when it opens back up and your interested I will vouch for you so you can get right in immediately.

Idiots get banned immediately over there. Zyzz and Chestbrah are looked at as fucking faggots. People who post with that bb.com "Misc" attitude get banned. It's for serious bodybuilders only and every few weeks people get banned if they are found out to be kids trying to get shredded for raves. If you use drugs you are banned. If you are underage you are banned. Oral only cycles get laughed at. Faggots who run grams of Test without HGH get laughed at.

I do my best to take knowledge from there and send it here.

I tried registering on that site a few weeks ago and never received a reply. How silly I'd read an explanation here. This is crazy time.

 

[Max Power]

Fuark, I'm shredded.

 

[Voxide]

I think he is referring to the fact that bodybuilding in terms of going "pro" can't be done without drugs and a lot of the self proclaimed natural bodybuilders, Layne Norton for example, have used and continue to use steroids and other compounds. The rumors are true by the way, but Nasser himself won't admit it because it would cause a shitstorm of controversy in the bodybuilding community.

If this is the case then yeah, I fully agree it's not sustainable, nor even attainable for that matter. He just made it sounds like training in general is a waste of time unless you're on 10 grams of test a week, which is ridiculous.

 

[auhsoJ]

If this is the case then yeah, I fully agree it's not sustainable, nor even attainable for that matter. He just made it sounds like training in general is a waste of time unless you're on 10 grams of test a week, which is ridiculous.

From what I read he recommends a constant supply of tren/GH (year around) and a smaller dose of test. He also said there's no way to get the 3D shoulders without growth and equipoise.

Oh and he says the most any natural can achieve is like 160-70ish depending on height.

 

[Voxide]

From what I read he recommends a constant supply of tren/GH (year around) and a smaller dose of test. He also said there's no way to get the 3D shoulders without growth and equipoise.

Oh and he says the most any natural can achieve is like 160-70ish depending on height.

Sounds like a big bunch of horseshit to me. I don't see what EQ in particular has to do with over-developed rear delts; all you really need for 3D shoulders from a side profile. If the 160lb limit is indeed true, I should have started juicing 20 years ago.

 

[Lopez]

i read about transdermal resveratrol recently, they say it's VERY good at burning off excess fat, but can eat away at your muscles too at higher doses.

 

[Lopez]

From what I read he recommends a constant supply of tren/GH (year around) and a smaller dose of test. He also said there's no way to get the 3D shoulders without growth and equipoise.

Oh and he says the most any natural can achieve is like 160-70ish depending on height.

lol as i stated on another thread, i was 180 coming off speed, my only work outs at the time (while on a biweekly amphetamine dropping schedule) were push ups, pull ups, dips, and sit ups, and i only consumed about 80-100 grams of protein per day... don't know who you're talking about but this CAN'T be right...

 

[Serotonin101]

i read about transdermal resveratrol recently, they say it's VERY good at burning off excess fat, but can eat away at your muscles too at higher doses.

sounds like what happens with clen/t3. gotta pump up protein intake along with something anabolic (tren for cutting). that's the way I would do my cut if I were "on". waiting to get more experience and for my hpta to finish developing.

side note to guido/vox: going to get bloodwork done next week to see where my test levels are at (will be one year clean from all drugs at this point). if doc puts me on trt, would I be able to begin a cycle earlier if my hpta is already fucked and they put me on trt?

 

[crazycatman]

I wouldn't count on steroids cutting mayor bf from your body. Yeah, some (tren, var, suposedyl 1-test-cyp, but haven't tried that one) affect body composition a bit. But the real reason pros (or wanna be pros) use steroids during cutting is to preserve muscle mass. The actually fat lost is done mostly by your diet. There are some drugs that help, but none of them is the magic pill you want. EC gives you a little energy and enables you to work harder while also suppressing your appetite (be warned, this effect doesn't last. It also increases your metabolism by a tiny ammount (3-5% percent, really the same as if you tok a 20 min walk every day. Clenbuterol is a little stronger, but also bad for the heart. T3 doesn't just eat fat, it eats everything, so unless your on steroids it's a bad idea. HGH (and various fragments) are really expensive, work slowly, and used alone their results just ain't all that. The only real magic pill is dnp, but unless you know what your doing it's a really bad idea that may well end with you dead (wouldn't be the first guy). And since you're asking these questions I'd guess that you don't really know what you're doing.

 

[Voxide]

sounds like what happens with clen/t3. gotta pump up protein intake along with something anabolic (tren for cutting). that's the way I would do my cut if I were "on". waiting to get more experience and for my hpta to finish developing.

side note to guido/vox: going to get bloodwork done next week to see where my test levels are at (will be one year clean from all drugs at this point). if doc puts me on trt, would I be able to begin a cycle earlier if my hpta is already fucked and they put me on trt?

Your goal is not to start a cycle as early as possible. If you're still making gains from a TRT dose of test, then you need to stay on that and keep with what's working until it doesn't anymore.

 

[Serotonin101]

Your goal is not to start a cycle as early as possible. If you're still making gains from a TRT dose of test, then you need to stay on that and keep with what's working until it doesn't anymore.

hmmm my goal is not to start cycling earlier per se. I'm only 22, and lots of people recommend waiting for some more years (no.biggie for me). I still consider 25 to be fairly early to cycle, but say if I were to get on trt, would it be safe to cycle at like 24/25 (2-3yrs training while on trt)? all hypothetical of course as I don't even know if I will be on trt.

 

[Cenzi8]

eat clean, this is the biggest part of cutting, then ephedrine, you can bronkaid at walgreens over the counter, take 1-2 with a cup of coffee 3 times a day, you will drop fat, get energy, appittite surpression, and slight diurectic effect.(takes water out) you can run this as long as you want, aspirin is optional.