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Current state of drugs in australia

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paddy1

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Those who take recreational drugs in Australia have noticed a considerable shift – in choice of drug and quality.

Marijuana
Marijuana was here before we came and will be here long after we’ve gone, though smoking is out of fashion now and this has definitely impacted on both use and acceptance. Furthermore, the fact that we can’t smoke inside clubs, and therefore can’t smoke weed inside, has had an impact. Nonetheless, weed is still around, still good quality and will always draw a loyal crowd.
Brushing that to the side, we then deal with the others: LSD, GHB, Speed, Ecstasy, Cocaine and Heroin. Sure, there are others in the mix, but none really reached a mainstream level and it seems that most people don’t care whether they come across it again or not.

GHB
It’s found popularity, but it’s a high maintenance drug where missing the range of effectiveness results in either no effect or hospitalization. The sheer fact that you can’t mix it with alcohol ensures that GHB will find little traction in Australia, especially the club scene. It seems to only suit those who don’t drink and the effects don’t always look appealing to the outside observer.

LSD
It’s around, but only around younger people who are into the heavy alternative music styles. The quality is mixed and a lot of experimental funky tripping chemicals (non-LSD) are being discovered in a lot of purchases. Again, it will continue to be around, but a lot of people find the effects of good LSD too heavy and runs for too long so it will be limited to the purists in the future.

Speed
Speed has become a big ‘in’ drug again, which is very disappointing. After all, aside from being jittering, talkative, sober-feeling and awake, it doesn’t seem to do anything that “feels” positive. But as good ecstasy has virtually disappeared, clubbers still want to stay awake and sober, and have unfortunately turned to both speed and meth (ice). It’s easy to make, it’s easy to obtain, it’s easy to sell and it’s a good mark up. The problem is that this drug can bring out the worst in people. Behaviour and rationality go out the window and it is little surprise that there has been an explosion of violence around inner city clubs in the last few years. It will always be around and served well in the days of good MDMA, where you could combine and enjoy longer and more exciting happiness, but by itself, it’s not very exciting. Ice is just downright nasty and changes everyone who uses it for the worse.
The key to defeating the speed culture and reducing late night violence and a more open, happy, relaxing and fun night environment relies on MDMA making a comeback.

Ecstasy
Anyone who has been taking ecstasy for more than 2-3 years all say the same thing – “a few years back, they were really good and strong, but now they are terrible.” Well this is not quite accurate. A better way of phrasing it would be “a few years back they contained MDxx, now they don’t!”
Today, “pills” rarely contain MDMA, MDA or MDEA. The most common content is DXM and BZP (piperazine) which really doesn’t substitute. Often, people taking pills these days reports an unpleasant nausea followed by a feeling of being very drunk and off centre. General discomfort often sets in shortly after, due to sweat glands working poorly on these chemicals in the heat of nightclubs. Most of all, these pills battle to keep people awake and rarely put the user in a ‘good place’ mentally.
So what happened to MDMA? Why are there no MDMA pills around anymore? Well it’s a combination of three things:

1) Underworld wars in Melbourne, pre 2005. Anyone who was partying in 2003 recalls that the pills were strong, easy to get and rarely ‘bad stuff.’ The supply chain consisted of corrupt drug squad detectives, well organised criminals and a fairly cash rich purchasing base. The underworld wars so most of the big players either dead or in jail, a great deal of crooked drug squad cops were busted and the purchasing base became more in debt. The bikies were hit by a crackdown on association and manufacturing slowed as a result. Nonetheless, a few players filled in the gap in the market and focused most of their efforts on imports.

2) A worldwide shortage of safrole – the precursor chemical to MDMA. Believe it or not, the world can thank Australia for that one. In June 2008, the Australian Federal Police in a joint effect with Cambodian authorities, burnt off 33 tonnes of safrole. It is estimated that this was enough to produce 300 million pills. Further, they cracked down in Cambodia on safrole distilling labs that were producing around 300 litres a day. This disruption to supply was monumental as Cambodia is virtually the main source for safrole in the world and the effects were felt in deeply in Europe and America, especially the UK and Amsterdam.

3) Police crackdown: .In mid 2008, police seized $440 million dollars worth of ecstasy (a world record at that time) and in the process, they knocked out the last strong supply network left in the aftermath of the underworld wars. Now it’s been reduced to smaller players, making bad pills with any chemical they can get their hands on, taking risks, unable to buy-off police or otherwise downright dodgy. Furthermore, there are policies in the drugs squad now that limit the potential for corruption by using forced rotation of the members. The crackdown on street level dealers in clubs and rave events has also had its impact.

So where to from here?
Well drugs often have a way of making a comeback. There is a gap in the market and one can only hope that this fantastic drug will return. Rarely is there a drug that makes people happy, keeps people sober minded and results in no violence. Furthermore, it’s incredibly safe. I’ll never forget the turn of the millennium new years eve in the city. The police braced for arrests, violence and people requiring hospitalization. In the end, there were virtually zero problems. I believe 18 or so were arrested for simple “public drunkness” and one of the senior police officers put it down to many people being on ecstasy and being happy, rather than belligerent.

The signs around the world are good. In the US, it seems to be becoming popular again and more readily available. In Amsterdam, there are reports of some good pills around again. The burn off in Cambodia, might have caused a pause, but if there’s millions to be made, people will fill in the gap and production has undoubtedly started again. However, whether this will translate to improvements in the Australian market is another thing. But again, there’s a big gaping market there to fill and it’s hard to imagine no one coming in and making millions in the near future.

Cocaine
Recent reports suggest that cocaine use has doubled in recent years. That’s probably true – a lot more people are using and there is a lot more of it around. Just recently (October 2010) there were two large importation busts and it’s fair to say that this will have massive implications for supply throughout the end of 2010. While this is irritating for the average user, it doesn’t bother me at all. Cocaine is fun for a celebration, but using it weekend after weekend is questionable and the cost, as well as the ‘bang for buck’ factor, are big big negatives.

Ultimately, though, it has found a big customer base resulting from higher incomes, a lack of ‘hangover/comedown’, it’s status and a lack of good ecstasy. It’s a shame to see ecstasy users switching to coke left right and centre, but the cost will eventually take its toll.

Coke is very addictive and will be around forever and the quality now is much better than, let’s say, 3-5 years ago. Whether it has popular longevity in society, due to its cost, remains to be seen. If there is one thing that made ecstasy so great, it was the bang for buck factor. A good $[price removed] pill in 2003 was enough for the night, whereas, $[price removed] worth of coke is enough for a pretty good night out. There is a theory that poor quality ecstasy has resulted from influence from international cocaine networks.

Unfortunately, coke, like speed, gives a false confidence and can promote aggressiveness. Again, a contributing factor to the rise of violence in the city.

Are the police winning?
They have certainly struck major blows. But there is one thing that drug policy makers will never understand. They believe that the ultimate society is one were we go out on the weekend, do not take drugs, do not smoke and enjoy 2-3 beers while remaining totally happy, positive and friendly. That’s just unrealistic as there will always be abusers and if you crack down on one drug, another pops up in popularity in its place. The days of good ecstasy and LSD were wonderful and society had few problems with users. Now we are in a period where cocaine and speed is popular and all the negatives it brings with it – especially from users themselves. Hopefully the gap in the market for E will be filled again… and soon!

The only strange thing is recent discussion about legalising drugs. While I support such a move, I do not understand why this is being discussed now while the drugs are becoming generally poorer in quality and harder to find. It's usually a debate that happens when police feel like they can't "win." With their recent victories, it seems odd that they are considering defeatest option.
 
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Damn le amount of of coke that lasts one night?? We in the US where I live can get 14grams aka a 1/2 Ounce for what it takes you to last a good night, and it is pure enough that it will last hard core users for days...
 
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Paddy I only read a handfull of paragraphs from your post and found alot of what you are saying was wrong. Where exactly did you get this sort of information or did you just make it up??? 1 good example is you saying that LSD predominately used by only young people who like alternative music???? WTF...hahahaha yeah right
 
Sorry, disagree with your opinion on a few things, speed in particular.
Ice is just downright nasty and changes everyone who uses it for the worse.
sounds like you've been reading too many newspapers. To say it changes everyone for the worse... I've never once felt 'violent' on speed and have never seen any of my friends who use act that way in 10 years of gear use.

I would agree with some of your points on ecstasy though...but I think that you've underestimated the amount of influence that alcohol has had in filling the gaps of drug quality/availability fluctuations over the last 10 years.
 
Actually after reading your post properly, I don't even agree with some of the stuff you say about ecstasy.

Sounds like you're trying to write an essay but I'm not sure of your point.
The only strange thing is recent discussion about legalising drugs. While I support such a move, I do not understand why this is being discussed now while the drugs are becoming generally poorer in quality and harder to find. It's usually a debate that happens when police feel like they can't "win." With their recent victories, it seems odd that they are considering defeatest option.
WTF is that about?
 
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Dear Moderators,

Sincere apologies for raising prices. I kept away from identifying where to buy as I know that's not allowed, but did not realise mentioning prices was not acceptable. Will certainly avoid discussing in the future! Cheers.

Dear headdah,

No I'm Australian. No irish roots at all in fact! I just like the username!

Dear my innerself,

Where did I get this information? Well I've been doing 'fun stuff' since 1995. So I've seen 15 years of movements and never seen things so bad. Nothing is made up and based on my observations and personal experiences. I discuss things a lot with fellow users.

As for LSD, the last load that I tried tripped me out for five or six hours then disappeared almost instantly. It was intensely visual, but didn't give the fun 'trippy' feeling or good laughter. I don't know what it was, but it's a far cry from the hoffmans circulating about 5-6 years ago. It's still around, but in the scenes I go to, it's rare that people are out tripping. Seems to be around the outdoor music festivals..etc... but not really a club drug these days.

All in all, the big point of this was actually about the movement away from ecstasy (the non-MDMA stuff that's around) and towards coke and speed.

When it comes to pills, I know a lot of takers who, in turn, have varied sources and there is no MDMA around.

Overall, I'll add the quality and strength of everything has certainly diminished in the last 8 years and become particularly bad in the last 18 months. If you want a good laugh, go to pill reports and see how many people are claiming their pills contain "MDxx" and even laugh more when they say "MDxx Medium." I guess some of these posters are so young that they don't know what things were like a few years ago...
 
After all, aside from being jittering, talkative, sober-feeling and awake, it doesn’t seem to do anything that “feels” positive.

If that was the case, then why would anybody do speed in the first place?

A dose of good meth is incredibly euphoric.
 
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fuck yeah!!!

Last time I had a shot it was only 2 points of absolute koota, I had to sit still for 5 minutes due to the rush, very euphoric stuff. In fact if I could get shit like that all the time I would be using that shit all the time.
 
Actually after reading your post properly, I don't even agree with some of the stuff you say about ecstasy.

Sounds like you're trying to write an essay but I'm not sure of your point. WTF is that about?

lol... fair enough. My point is probably that the state of things is actually pretty crap these days. I never thought years ago that I would see a day where an 8-ball of meth is 20 minutes away, but finding anything remotely close to MDMA or MDA is impossible after 9 months of trying multiple unconnected sources. I never thought I'd see the day when people were happily parting with large sums on coke that's been cut to hell, yet so many would happy fork out more for some decent bickies.

What exactly don't you agree with about my comments with ecstasy? I certainly hope you're not going to tell me that you're in Australia and it's just a matter of knowing the right people nonsense. I do know the right people and everyone is admitting it's a sad state of affairs.

With regards to meth, some people have a bit of an aggressive side and speed brings it out of them. Most people who use it regularly have no idea how messed up and irrational they appear to a sober person. It has a euphoric side, but it's hardly high and happy - more like ready and charged. Most long term users I know have relatively unstable lives and are hardly fun to be around when coming down. It's not media, it's my first hand experience. It's funny - if i were to be in charge of legalising drugs, I would probably legalise everything except speed.

With regards to legalisation, the two times there was vigorous debate was in the mid 1990s, when heroin was big and the police couldn't seem to do anything about it, and early 2000s, when police were failing to contain the underworld wars. It seemed that the debate was born out of the concern that police were just powerless against the drug trade. But in recent times, heaps of big players have been taken out of the game and lots of massive supply chains have experienced big setbacks. It seems like the police are really getting on top of the drug trade, so why are we considering legalisation again?
 
Yeah I found a lot of things you said there were untrue based on what I have seen in my years. Maybe because you are older you are seeing a different scene where as me being younger, the drug scene is some what different to what you see.

Most speed in Aus is meth was the first major thing I saw.
And also, a lot of people DO drink with GHB, stupid but a lot of people are stupid.

I might go through again and find more when I have more time.
 
good 100mg of shards will get you so off your face and in a state of euphoria. thats no questions asked :).

but yeah mdma > ice ice baby. thats for sure.
 
ohh mdma, i miss you here in aussie, its such a natural habitat for you here nd yet you dont seem to breed here well.
truely if cocaine was cheaper id definately substitute it for mdma. but so many more negatives nd my nose doesnt like cocaine the next day
 
What exactly don't you agree with about my comments with ecstasy? I certainly hope you're not going to tell me that you're in Australia and it's just a matter of knowing the right people nonsense. I do know the right people and everyone is admitting it's a sad state of affairs.

Clearly you don't know the right people.
 
The thing about MDMA is that the high itself is only half the experience. Half of the fun of MDMA is knowing that you're on the same level as hundreds of other people on the dancefloor with you. Even if somebody did have some miracle contact that was getting them clean molly, being the only one, or the only group, at the party pinging your heads off is no fun at all. You're still in a club full of drunk people on coke and meth, and that's inevitably going to lead to a shitty vibe.
 
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