Current state of drugs in australia

[Sustanon]

The thing about MDMA is that the high itself is only half the experience. Half of the fun of MDMA is knowing that you're on the same level as hundreds of other people on the dancefloor with you. Even if somebody did have some miracle contact that was getting them clean molly, being the only one, or the only group, at the party pinging your heads off is no fun at all. You're still in a club full of drunk people on coke and meth, and that's inevitably going to lead to a shitty vibe.

Cranckinit is absolutely correct. The MDMA high is nothing unless everyone around u is on the exact same vibe as u. I have been to multiple raves where i have split from friends and made new friends with randoms and they were just as good company as anyone else. Its such an awesome feeling. Being loved up and peaking id have to say is one of the best things ive ever felt in my entire life.

This is just one of the many positive things MDMA can induce. Its as almost as good as the euphoria and effects u get it from itself. Nothing in the world will make u feel that way. Empathy is one of the greatest things on earth. I dont know about u guys but i luv peace and while im on a nice dose of MDMA i feel incredibly peaceful but when i come down it feels like i have woken up from a dream,a dream that was too good to be true.

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

Hey paddy1, can you please reference this with a source? I also suggest we-writing it.

LSD
It’s around, but only around younger people who are into the heavy alternative music styles. The quality is mixed and a lot of experimental funky tripping chemicals (non-LSD) are being discovered in a lot of purchases. Again, it will continue to be around, but a lot of people find the effects of good LSD too heavy and runs for too long so it will be limited to the purists in the future.

I'm sorry to pick apart your thread, but this is terribly written and I'd like to know the source of the info.

It's not only available to young people at the stated festivals. I know academics who commonly use LSD and can't stand "that doof doof music". They are one of many groups of LSD users that don't go to trance festivals.

The percentage of adulterated tabs is very small, most tabs do still contain LSD only and the biggest variable is the loading. Some Aus cities such as Adelaide get floods of DO* tabs from time to time, but they still rarely take up more than a few % of the tabs available on the black market.

"a lot of people find the effects of good LSD too heavy and runs for too long so it will be limited to the purists in the future."

Who are these people? Almost every frequent LSD user that I know of would rate LSD firstly, by it's loading per dose and secondly, by any side effects experienced during the come up and trip such as nausea and muscle pain AKA how clean it is. Large doses will give the user a strong body load, making them feel heavy no matter what the purity of the LSD cystal is. You need info along the lines of LSD purities, LSD dose levels and LSD side effects (duration may also help).

Can you please do some more research on LSD and re-write this for the good of man kind.

 

[Juvenile]

The thing about MDMA is that the high itself is only half the experience. Half of the fun of MDMA is knowing that you're on the same level as hundreds of other people on the dancefloor with you. Even if somebody did have some miracle contact that was getting them clean molly, being the only one, or the only group, at the party pinging your heads off is no fun at all. You're still in a club full of drunk people on coke and meth, and that's inevitably going to lead to a shitty vibe.

Exactly how I feel. Anywhere full of drunk people is terrible imo. I remember going between the all ages area and the drinking area at a music festival earlier this year. Man the drunks were annoying and smelly!

I don't just wish that I could find a couple of the rare as hens teeth MDMA bikkies to eat myself, more than anything I wish them to be abundant for all to bring back the good vibe at clubs and events.

 

[DavisK4high247]

Keep this thread away from price discussion/comparison.

Was comparing our costs to a posted cost above me, What was listed as the cost of coke for a good night is equal to the cost more or less than what we pay for about 1/2 Oz. of cocaine..

 

[MilliVanilli]

The MDMA high is nothing unless everyone around u is on the exact same vibe as u.

This is not true. Though I get what crackinit was getting at, and I agree, but to call MDMA's experience 'nothing' unless everyone around you is on the same level is nonsense. I think you can find out so much about yourself if you are not cooped up in a dark nightclub with blaring music in the early hours of Sunday morning.

As for the OP, it just seems to me that you are putting all your eggs in one basket in that you are relying on the resurgence of MDMA to bring about some significant cultural shift and rid us of some of our social ills which are a result of Cocaine and Speed becoming so widespread.

And the point you made about legalisation debates coming into the spotlight in a time like this, the "poor quality" I assume you are talking about is in relation to MDMA. However, just a few paragraphs up, you mention how Cocaine is more readily available and is better quality than what it was 3-5 years ago. Those facts would suggest they are not winning...? The legalisation debate is running a few decades late, and was well overdue. It just sucks it came about after such a long and pointless 'war' on drugs.

MV

 

[paddy1]

Clearly you don't know the right people.

Ahhh yes - it was bound to happen. Like the guy who told me a few months ago that he had 'the best caps ever that kept him going all night.' You know, the ones where I took two in two hours and then ate a pizza and went to bed.

Clearly you've never had good sources for MDMA. Those pills that make you feel a little high and floaty are not good and not always MDMA either. Those that bend you so hard that you need to sit down and chill out while you rush for 30-40 minutes, then you emerge with 4-5 hours of smiling positive energy is the real deal. You expect me to believe that you have a source for that, but no one else in Australia does?....

I see some defenders of ice and speed. Fair enough. If that's your poison, then fine, but I think it's pretty nasty stuff.

A lot of people mention LSD - it's actually my favourite drug. The only thing is that in regular clubs, small parties and so on, I've found it rare to come across it. Somehow, it just seemed to me that it had fallen out of favour with the regular club crowds compared to 10 years ago.

 

[L3inad]

Ahhh yes - it was bound to happen. Like the guy who told me a few months ago that he had 'the best caps ever that kept him going all night.' You know, the ones where I took two in two hours and then ate a pizza and went to bed.

Clearly you've never had good sources for MDMA. Those pills that make you feel a little high and floaty are not good and not always MDMA either. Those that bend you so hard that you need to sit down and chill out while you rush for 30-40 minutes, then you emerge with 4-5 hours of smiling positive energy is the real deal. You expect me to believe that you have a source for that, but no one else in Australia does?....

I see some defenders of ice and speed. Fair enough. If that's your poison, then fine, but I think it's pretty nasty stuff.

A lot of people mention LSD - it's actually my favourite drug. The only thing is that in regular clubs, small parties and so on, I've found it rare to come across it. Somehow, it just seemed to me that it had fallen out of favour with the regular club crowds compared to 10 years ago.

Ahh dude, that is kinda the way things work =\

I'm sorry you havent been able to find the goods. I dont claim to have had MDMA in the past 18 months, however since ~june this year I've been enjoying some decent MDA on a regular basis to the extent that I've actually started getting full blown MD mood swings and have had to enforce a break upon myself. Just as actual MDMA has come to town /cries

Shit is looking up, whinge and bitch all you want but sorry to say, it genuinely is all about who you know

 

[MrIbis]

paddy did you come on here just to be a smartass?

Some of the worlds most prolific drug users/other types of drug related 'professionals' are users of this board.

If these people can or can't find MDMA, who are you to judge?

I've had MDMA in the past 12 months, purely by luck of a mate finding a few old pills in her room, and being on SSRIs so she couldn't use them... was a nice bday present.

I'm pretty sure most of us around here (especially those of us who've been here since 03' or earlier) know what MDMA feels like - and that's a good wad of us. Supposedly MDMA is becoming a little more prevalent, and I'm happy to watch and ride as maybe it picks up again.

 

[mushi mushi 88]

Great post Paddy, I thoroughly enjoyed reading that.

I think that MDMA will make a come back eventually but when it does I think that the Aus Fed Police will do the same thing that they did in 2008. I have bee seeing a lot more MDMA pop up recently but not in pills it seems to be just getting sold in powder or crystals because most people have seemed to of learnt that the majority of pills on the market these days are crap.

It's sad to see that a lot of people are using speed and coke but I find their is a massive difference between the speed users and coke users. The speed users just stay awake for days on end and are unreasonable but the coke users usually crash after they have had a good night out and are not as violent...

 

[xtc123]

i genuinely agree with paddy1, to an extent..

 

[Sameria]

This thread needs more more HR info and less sourcing discussion. So fucking sick of reading the same shit over and over again...thanks paddy.Anyone else smell an alias?

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

BZP and DXM are not the most common ecstasy adulterants! BZP is a piperazine, but it has pretty much disappeared since it was banned as a legal high in NZ. TFMPP and mCPP are the common piperazine's now used in pills. DXM does show up from time to time, but also isn't in the top 2 most common adulterants. Where are you getting this info?

If you want a good laugh, go to pill reports and see how many people are claiming their pills contain "MDxx" and even laugh more when they say "MDxx Medium." I guess some of these posters are so young that they don't know what things were like a few years ago...

I must admit, I do get a giggle out of pillreports noob posts, but today's giggle medal easily goes to this thread. If you have been in the scene since '95 and can't give as much info as many who have only been in the scene for less than a few years, I wouldn't be bagging pillreports posters 8)

editFug it, she's closed for lack of information and HR value.

I posted about LSD last night and you still didn't change that today. One of many misleading things in this thread

Write a blog if you want to have a drug speal.

Make well researched and factual posts, with links to back up your information, if you want to have A thread that will stay open in Aus DD.

 

[belarki]

This thread needs more more HR info and less sourcing discussion. ....

Agreed, let's steer the discussion away from availability?

I think leftwing put it perfectly:

just a bias (and off the mark) review and thoughts on the scene in my opinion

Thanks for posting your thoughts paddy1, but the original post really needs editing with references to your claims if it's going to be taken seriously. Otherwise it's just your opinion on the scene with very little to back it.

Edit: beat me to it psilo