manalishi92
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Its all strictly fictional if i was dealing i certainly wouldn't write about it on the internet
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Current LSD Discussion Mk5 - You asked so nicely!
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Acid4Blood
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Yeah, 2003/04 would be about right. They were very nice trips. I remember drinking a glass of spanish local-vineyard red wine on the comedown & it tasted like a basket of fruit! So many flavours.
Greenstar420
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Your definatley being WAY to paranoid. god forbid someone post a pic of more than 20 tabs. lmao.
sit
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For info - I've heard from a couple of sources that both of those Shiva prints are actually white crystal (c. 150ug). I really don't think that you can tell the colour of the source crystal from any pigmentation on the sheet - the solution for laying sheets is far too dilute for any crystal pigmentation to remain visual detectable. If there is a pinkish colour then it's far more likely to come from some ink leeching through from the front of the sheet. Also the liquid in which the crystal is dissolved can be coloured. But the amounts of crystal used are too small to show any colour once they've been diluted.
This isn't bad news of course - white crystal is the best
sit
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Ok Deadheads Heres my report on the latest dancing bear blotter!
Bought a couple of these the other week, they were expensive man, the most expensive hits ive ever bought £4 a go! (it was my suppliers sample batch so hopefully next time they will be cheaper)
Defo the best tabs ive ever had, in my single years experience of dropping haha. Stronger than the freddies, twice as strong as the last bears and like 3-4 times as good as those useless "twisted sister" alien twins tabs that were about a while ago.
I would estimate the dose at between 200ug and 250ug, Definitely a little stronger than the freddies which seem to be widely confirmed as being round 200 ug, all i know is they are very nice, clean and trippy!
The print is identical to the last batch of teddies from around a year ago, same scary looking clown on the sheet and giant pink teddies on the back but again these are certainly twice as strong,
Overall great tabs! and worth a tenner, if like me, you are used to paying a fiver for milder 100ug hits
I'm interested in this because I've heard that this is a print actually made in the UK and only sold in the UK. This would be very unusual given that the vast majority of UK-sold blotters come from the continent. Anyone seen this outside the UK?
bowserthedog
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Hey everyone, I was wondering what is everyone's view on a blotter I have been offered? It is a hoffman 'the original', apparently 120mics, would be getting a good price, just want to know everyone's opinion?
THe indication was that more acid was not amplifing any effects mentally or visually, and last action to test this was to drop another psychedelic without any significant chance of effects, another compound just gave me a lot of confusion, and in this case was 2cb, giving me uncontrollable horniness. :x
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I wouldnt see any reason for that not to happen.
Most of the blotters are produced from different people who made the LSD. It normally goes as LSD Chemist bounces to another person that will sell to another person who prints and drops lsd in the blotters (like most drugs, there's a whole chain), possibly even bounce more times (there was a really cool article about it but cant find). Imagine 1g = 10 000 x 100ug, someone just sticks a gram around his balls and them flies anywhere in the world virtually indetectable w/ 10 000 doses.
Pretty much having UK blotters doesnt say shit, and lsd is probably from somewhere else.
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trippin_titties
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I've heard they actually deliver Crystal Lsd by pidgeon
I think thats too much work, but for the big wolf might be a good solution. 1g well packed is size more or less of a pea, that can go anywhere.
sit
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Actually, fly, the situation you're describing ISN'T typical of the way in which LSD is distributed across the European mass market, of which the British Isles are generally a part.
Although in principle this is how it can work, and in the classic US model this is how it does work, and although there are instances such as the famous Swiss labs that only produce crystal which they then sell to Dutch distributors, for the most part in Europe chemical synthesis and manufacture of blotters or microdots tend to take place very close together and the whole operation tends to be very centralised.
Conversely, crystal which is produced locally in the UK (as I was told the crystal laid on this print was) tends almost invariably to be distributed as liquid rather than laid on blotters.
The actual laying of blotters in the UK is by no means unheard of, but it is rare these days...which is exactly why it is so very rare to come across a print in the UK which is not widely seen across the continent and indeed in all of the global markets that are supplied by the major Dutch labs. So it is indeed a rare occurrence for a distinctive British print to be in circulation outside of a very small locality.
Of course you are right in principle that there's no reason why it shouldn't happen - but dealers will often bullshit about this kind of thing because it sounds cooler to say 'these were made by this hippy chemist in Dorset' than to say 'these were made by the same acid factory in Amsterdam that has made every other tab that you or anyone you have ever met has ever taken'....
Of course you're right that it doesn't mean anything in terms of quality - most UK-produced crystal is actually pretty poor quality even compared to mass-produced Dutch stuff (not always though). It's just that I'd be interested to get some more evidence as to whether it's true that this print only circulates in the UK or from the UK or if that was just bullshit hype from the person who was trying to sell it to me. Not because I think it makes any difference to the quality - just because I want to get an idea of whether their story is true or not.
Although in principle this is how it can work, and in the classic US model this is how it does work, and although there are instances such as the famous Swiss labs that only produce crystal which they then sell to Dutch distributors, for the most part in Europe chemical synthesis and manufacture of blotters or microdots tend to take place very close together and the whole operation tends to be very centralised.
Conversely, crystal which is produced locally in the UK (as I was told the crystal laid on this print was) tends almost invariably to be distributed as liquid rather than laid on blotters.
The actual laying of blotters in the UK is by no means unheard of, but it is rare these days...which is exactly why it is so very rare to come across a print in the UK which is not widely seen across the continent and indeed in all of the global markets that are supplied by the major Dutch labs. So it is indeed a rare occurrence for a distinctive British print to be in circulation outside of a very small locality.
Of course you are right in principle that there's no reason why it shouldn't happen - but dealers will often bullshit about this kind of thing because it sounds cooler to say 'these were made by this hippy chemist in Dorset' than to say 'these were made by the same acid factory in Amsterdam that has made every other tab that you or anyone you have ever met has ever taken'....
Of course you're right that it doesn't mean anything in terms of quality - most UK-produced crystal is actually pretty poor quality even compared to mass-produced Dutch stuff (not always though). It's just that I'd be interested to get some more evidence as to whether it's true that this print only circulates in the UK or from the UK or if that was just bullshit hype from the person who was trying to sell it to me. Not because I think it makes any difference to the quality - just because I want to get an idea of whether their story is true or not.
bowserthedog
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Hey, so does anyone have any info on Hofmann 'the Orginial"s?
sunshine1
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I can say for an absolute fact that this is a fictitious story regarding the laying of this particular print. There is no chance that this print was laid in the UK. I myself acquired this print in the Netherlands almost two and a half years ago. Not particularly the strongest of prints but the quality is there. They were laid by the same guys that were knocking out the Dali Lamas and the various Shiva prints ( Not the cartoon psychedelic ones ) the ones with the ohm in the middle.
Sold as 70-95ug (depending on the batch) of quality fluff crystal (as were all the prints listed above). Also the same producers are responsible for the various microdots ie the red stars, black stars and what not although different dot's have been laid with a varying degree of quality crystal (not the recent wave of brown ones). These also have been knocking around for the same amount of time. Lab tested at the boom festival in 2008 at a range of 120- 160 ug' on average, however some came in at as low as 72ugs.
Hope this sheds some light on the current debate surrounding these little dancing bears, i must add its a amusing print tho especially the creepy looking clown in the center of the print.
Anyways enjoy them.
sunshine1
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yes recently acquired these ones. Although limited experience thus far; there are really rather weak in comparison to other print around at the moment. One will not suffice for most people however; but that is a matter of personal choice . I'm not one for guesstimating on commenting on ranges (a rather pointless and futile exercise i may add) unless i have it on good authority or have seen some form of lab analysis, but people(not me i stress) are suggesting that there are within the strength range as the Krishna's and pharaohs give or take but some what better quality, nothing like the anniversary Hoffman's unfortunately. Be that as it may, no doubt opinions will start to filler down as these have been out for some time now, the latest batch anyways, and in vast numbers (or so i believe), but who am i to comment.
Hope this helps...
Hope this helps...
sit
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Thanks so much Sunshine1 - that is EXACTLY what I wanted to verify. I had heard from very authoritative sources that the 'shiva family' had been laying their good white crystal at around the kind of dose you mention on 'dancing bears' sheets - but I hadn't actually seen the print and I didn't know if it was this exact same one with the scary clown (there have been so many dancing bear prints over the years). I won't be buying any of these myself - can get the shivas and dalai lamas for less than this guy was selling the bears for anyway. But it does satisfy my curiosity as to whether or not he is a bullshitter. Incidentally you've also fully confirmed the other info I'd gleaned about the origins of various good-quality Dutch distributions.
It's an interesting feature of UK acid culture that there is this persistent fantasy of the locally-produced product but it hardly ever exists.
Anyway thanks again - that is the most useful reply to a post I have ever received!
g1zzl3
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150ug Shiva's in, around on the constant now... very clean well produced LSD, boshed 2 and was in psychedelic heaven :D
bit off topic but now real good pure MDA can be sought & DMT freebase at astounding prices.
Loving it!
bit off topic but now real good pure MDA can be sought & DMT freebase at astounding prices.
Loving it!
breakcorefiend
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munched 5 avatars, tripped out like fuck! been blasting dmt too, psych heaven, got a mate converted into dmt and acid! proper good night!
sit
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Has anyone seen actual test results for the batch of shivas that several of us have mentioned (the ones with the Ohm on the whole page)?