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Curious, how many people rank MDMA as their #1 life experience?

I find a magical trip to be much more important to me than a magical roll. My first shrooms is more important to me than any roll, tripping with my girlfriend at a rave is also more imporant. First high dose DMT more important. There are also a lot of sober moments that are very high up there.
 
squarerootof23 said:
If Bluelight is about harm reduction, I have to say that if anyone ranks taking a drug as one of the top three experiences of his life, that person is undoubtedly being harmed, that just is a sign of something amiss in that person's life. I'm not kidding.
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If he were still alive, I'd say tell that to Steve Jobs.

During this time, Jobs experimented with psychedelics, calling his LSD experiences "one of the two or three most important things [he had] done in [his] life".
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^ a b John Markoff (2005). What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry. Penguin. p. preface xix. ISBN 978-0-14-303676-0. Retrieved October 5, 2011.

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Myself for that matter as well. LSD showed me what I was supposed to do with my life, and is the reason I'm going back to college for a new degree. That was my number 1 experience so far in my life.

MDMA itself isn't an experience I'd rank near the top at all, however it did facilitate the 2nd most import aspect of my life. Finding the subculture I belong in and giving me for the first time in my life, an actual social life. I was so happy for months, not even on anything else, just because I had friends. Removing social anxiety inhibitions allowed me to find people I can get along with sober or not (and sober more often than not).
 
Had some good mdma trips but i had one shroom trip (7g in total) where i was almost having an out of body experience.It was like my body was a shell and i could move around inside of it, i was in such total bliss i could have died and been totally ok with it.
 
squarerootof23 said:
In other words, it sounds like you're saying that you see your use of LSD and MDMA as a couple *means* to enable you to do/find things that are *really* important to you - that is, to help you experience those things that are in themselves greater and more valuable life experiences than taking LSD or MDMA.
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True, however the end goal of my LSD experience has not been achieved yet, so it's still the experience that set me on the path I now follow.

That's also why I said MDMA wasn't, because it was successful in it's purpose. Now, it's just a fun way to pass the evening, no better or worse than any other fun activity.

Even once I have accomplished the goals I now have, it still will have been the most important experience since it was the one that gave me the motivation/drive to pursue them.
 
Mdma with MAOI on a sex session will always stay on my mind and thought of regularly was like nothing i could possible explain except for even moving my feet was going to make me orgasm was so fun to say the least, was a once in a lifetime experience to say the least before having to take myself to hospital to get some vallum as the 125mg dose was still peaking at 13 hours and getting stronger due to the maoi! WARNING: do not try this at home it is really dangerous! or any drug with an MAOI to say the least.
 
I would say it's definitely up there, maybe my first time as number one... but it's rivaled by a few shroom trips I've had that have been inexplicably amazing.
 
squarerootof23 said:
Don't really care what Steve Jobs thought.




In other words, it sounds like you're saying that you see your use of LSD and MDMA as a couple *means* to enable you to do/find things that are *really* important to you - that is, to help you experience those things that are in themselves greater and more valuable life experiences than taking LSD or MDMA.
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For me I doubt it would be the best experience of my life without the setting. The question did not have to mean solely the effects of the drug being the best part of your life, but could also mean did the drug help facilitate one of your best moments in life. Which for me I know taking it at home would not have been nearly as amazing.

Also to people who rank LSD way up there...I dont get it. I took 250-300ug for my first trip at a festi and man all I got was utter mind-fuckery. Cant even recall most of the trip cause it was so other-worldly, couldnt relate any of it to real life matters.
 
maxxsskip said:
Also to people who rank LSD way up there...I dont get it. I took 250-300ug for my first trip at a festi and man all I got was utter mind-fuckery. Cant even recall most of the trip cause it was so other-worldly, couldnt relate any of it to real life matters.
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I don't know about most people, but this is why it was for me when I took 8 hits of what the old timers who'd been doing it for 20 years said felt like 250 mics.

Software development was just a hobby starting at 14. Between then and 20 I progressively got better, got involved in hacker community, did my thing and didn't get caught (my friend not so lucky did 3 years in penn), and got out. I ended up contributing to an open source AI related application, which ended up getting me a job out of the country (company paid for my passport, paid for my housing, everything). Did stuff in that industry for a few years until I was about 23, moved into healthcare software development industry.

I have no degree in software development. I just happened to have a talent for it. Hell I didn't even know what I did was considered AI until the past year (my resume definitely got updated when I learned that).

I never wanted to go for a 4 or 8 year degree program, because I couldn't think of -anything- that would require that much time, and allow me to do something productive enough to make it worth it. Interests in linguistics, law, genetics, comp sci, whatever. None seemed "worth it".

Over past year, I started exploring drugs. All of a sudden a light bulb popped on and I went back to hacker mindset. I figured out my brain was just an extremely complex computer (computers got to boring easy for me). So I started exploring more, and more drugs, seeing what they all would do and how my body/mind would react.

Then LSD. Holy fuck. I just put my brain into a state, that is so out of the ordinary, that if I didn't expend tons of energy rationalizing and coming up with logical conclusions for everything I was experiencing, I'd be confused as hell.

But I wasn't. I did acid twice before I did that 8 hits, both were "interesting". The 8 hits however... I'll never see my brain the same way again. It all just clicked mentally, how much the brain is just like a computer, and that I'd be able to learn it's inner functionality the same way I did the software systems I hacked when I was younger.

During the peak of my trip, thoughts were racing so fast, but the CEV's were essentially 3-dimensional Visio diagrams of the code it would take for me to implement the human brain into software.

Delusions of Grandeur are a wonderful thing, but I am not egotistical enough to think I have the ability to do that now. I do know, I have the capability to learn everything required to do so though.

I discovered the degree program for Cognitive Science and it's what I'll be pursuing next chance I get. I took the Stanford AI-Class.org course and got my certificate of completion.

I found my purpose in life thanks to it. It has given me the inspiration I needed to push myself to where I think I can actually make a difference.

Can MDMA do that? XD
 
Aetherius Rimor said:
I don't know about most people, but this is why it was for me when I took 8 hits of what the old timers who'd been doing it for 20 years said felt like 250 mics.

Software development was just a hobby starting at 14. Between then and 20 I progressively got better, got involved in hacker community, did my thing and didn't get caught (my friend not so lucky did 3 years in penn), and got out. I ended up contributing to an open source AI related application, which ended up getting me a job out of the country (company paid for my passport, paid for my housing, everything). Did stuff in that industry for a few years until I was about 23, moved into healthcare software development industry.

I have no degree in software development. I just happened to have a talent for it. Hell I didn't even know what I did was considered AI until the past year (my resume definitely got updated when I learned that).

I never wanted to go for a 4 or 8 year degree program, because I couldn't think of -anything- that would require that much time, and allow me to do something productive enough to make it worth it. Interests in linguistics, law, genetics, comp sci, whatever. None seemed "worth it".

Over past year, I started exploring drugs. All of a sudden a light bulb popped on and I went back to hacker mindset. I figured out my brain was just an extremely complex computer (computers got to boring easy for me). So I started exploring more, and more drugs, seeing what they all would do and how my body/mind would react.

Then LSD. Holy fuck. I just put my brain into a state, that is so out of the ordinary, that if I didn't expend tons of energy rationalizing and coming up with logical conclusions for everything I was experiencing, I'd be confused as hell.

But I wasn't. I did acid twice before I did that 8 hits, both were "interesting". The 8 hits however... I'll never see my brain the same way again. It all just clicked mentally, how much the brain is just like a computer, and that I'd be able to learn it's inner functionality the same way I did the software systems I hacked when I was younger.

During the peak of my trip, thoughts were racing so fast, but the CEV's were essentially 3-dimensional Visio diagrams of the code it would take for me to implement the human brain into software.

Delusions of Grandeur are a wonderful thing, but I am not egotistical enough to think I have the ability to do that now. I do know, I have the capability to learn everything required to do so though.

I discovered the degree program for Cognitive Science and it's what I'll be pursuing next chance I get. I took the Stanford AI-Class.org course and got my certificate of completion.

I found my purpose in life thanks to it. It has given me the inspiration I needed to push myself to where I think I can actually make a difference.

Can MDMA do that? XD
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That's an amazing story and I wish I could have gotten something that important from LSD. But on 250, there were times I didn't even know where I was. I was getting full blown hallucinations (trees were all cartoon vines rapidly writhing around eachother). None of it seemed thought-provoking to me (I was too gone to even think). To me at least, I found it to be way too much of a mindfuck to be able to even understand what was going on or be able to use any of what was happening at all. Idk maybe better luck next time I find acid that good.

And imagine if you accomplished that all from LSD. What an accomplishment for the tripping world hahaha. Wouldn't that be the technological singularity if you eventually were able to do that?
 
Unfortunately LSD doesn't treat everyone as kindly. I wish it did. I've spent many trips pondering why other people can't experience the same utter bliss/joy/insight I feel I get on it.

It's saddening almost :(
 
Aetherius Rimor said:
Unfortunately LSD doesn't treat everyone as kindly. I wish it did. I've spent many trips pondering why other people can't experience the same utter bliss/joy/insight I feel I get on it.

It's saddening almost :(
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Maybe just too much, too intense for my first time..and I was only 17..not enough experience with life probably, I was quite naive, and that was at least one thing it showed me..
 
Getting to Vegas for the first time, my wife and I taking that magic journey for the first time together will remain on my mind for all of eternity.. When ever I get down, remembering bits of that experience always seem to lift me back up.
 
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