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Megathread Cultural Appropriation and Cancel Culture Discussion

Michael Richards had a pretty extravagant fall from grace.

As for Apu, I can see how annoying it would be to be Indian and have people constantly reference it to you, or tell you to 'thank you come again' - I get something similar with another show based on their ethnic character, who is in fact a complete moron and people think it's hysterical to point out that we share superficial attributes. But not the main one he's stereotyped on. So it ends up making no sense to me. 'OH LOL YOU'RE JUST LIKE THAT GUY' nah not really. But whatever.

Do I think it needs to go? No, I have better things to worry about.

I grew up loving The Simpsons, despite the fact it was banned in my household because Bart didn't respect his father :D (guess it taught me a life lesson there).

I can see why they'd want someone of their own background to voice a character representing them, I mean, it seems fair at the very least - and The Simpsons audience exactly known for being cool with offensive material. The City Wok character in South Park is hilarious, but I wouldn't go around quoting him to Chinese people, because I understand the point of satire.

And I have met people from younger generations who think South Park just isn't funny, due to the generation gap when it comes to humour and what is considered overly offensive nowadays.

I guess I'm getting old.
 
Bella Figura said:
Michael Richards had a pretty extravagant fall from grace.
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He's a good example of a situation in which a "push back" (in this case, his fall from grace) was 100% warranted imo. The reference he made in his remark at that comedy club was one very much based on fact, but that makes no difference...he still shouldn't have said it, and I think it's good that there were career repercussions for him.

And I get it, he's not a bad or evil guy or anything for saying what he did, I never really liked his character on "Seinfeld" but he was flustered and agitated by a heckler, and was probably just angling for some shock laughs or something, I don't know...it was just highly inappropriate imo, he should have used his better judgement and discretion before referencing something like that, in that context
 
w01fg4ng said:
Trying to color cancel culture as something that is simply "annoying" is short sighted at best and only further stigmatizes a word that doesn't need to be stigmatized.

Remember when politicians couldn't get away with saying even just one stupid thing in their career without everyone making fun of them for it?

Now if Trump DOESN'T say something stupid at least twice a day we start to wonder what's wrong. Half of the country voted for this behavior.

It's as if we are addicted to misinformation.

We need more cancel culture imo. Make America Accountable Again
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Cancel culture is ridiculous and is not worth arguing about unless those who see it as helpful consider cancelling themselves instead.
 

Former Virginia Tech soccer player sues coach, claiming she was forced off team for refusing to kneel before games​


Former Virginia Tech women’s soccer player Kiersten Hening has filed a federal lawsuit against Hokies women’s soccer coach Chugger Adair, alleging that after she refused to join her teammates kneeling before games this season, the coach engaged in a “campaign of abuse and retaliation” that led her to leave the program.

“Hening’s stance was costly — too costly,” reads the lawsuit, filed March 3. “Her coach dislikes Hening’s political views. Because she refused to kneel, he benched her, subjected her to repeated verbal abuse, and forced her off the team.”
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Hening, a 21-year-old Midlothian native and former star player at James River High School, walked onto the Virginia Tech team in 2018 and started as a freshman and sophomore.

She was in the team’s lineup for its opening match of the 2020 season, against rival University of Virginia. While her teammates knelt during the pregame reading of the Atlantic Coast Conference’s unity pledge — a show of support for the social justice movement and Black Lives Matter — Hening and one other unidentified player remained standing, according to the lawsuit.
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This past season, a few members of the Virginia Tech basketball team knelt during the anthem, while most — all but three — players at rival UVA did.

Hening’s suit claims she “supports social justice and believes black lives matter,” but “does not support the BLM organization.”
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The lawsuit alleges that, during halftime of the Sept. 12 season opener at UVA, “Coach Adair berated Hening for her stance. He singled her out and verbally attacked her, pointing a finger directly in her face. He denounced Hening for ‘bitching and moaning,’ for being selfish and individualistic, and for ‘doing her own thing.’”

According to the lawsuit, Adair targeted Hening instead of the other player who remained standing because that player was on scholarship and her parents had a previous phone conversation with Adair and had “warned him not to retaliate against their daughter for opposing (Black Lives Matter.)”
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There are two sides to every story, and we're only getting one here. However, it shows someone being punished for NOT supporting BLM. Do our left leaning members support her right to her own opinion, her own decision to NOT kneel?
 
TheLoveBandit said:
Do our left leaning members support her right to her own opinion, her own decision to NOT kneel?
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Ridiculous... unless it affected the performance on the field. Like you say, only one side is being told of this story. On the face of it though a player should not be punished for their political views or how they express them unless they are illegal in some way, or they cause a problem with their performance on the field.
 
TheLoveBandit said:
Do our left leaning members support her right to her own opinion, her own decision to NOT kneel?
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For sure, that's totally ridiculous to fire someone for refusing to kneel before a game. Just as it is ridiculous to fire or otherwise punish someone for choosing to kneel.
 
Even though I've never bought it (I almost did) and I've never had someone tell me to cancel them (I have my own opinion?) I've decided to cancel Monistat not only for there overpriced product but for there blatant continuation of a social stigma.

This social stigma says that it's ok for men to be dirty but women need to be clean. This social stigma says that it's only women's genitalia/privates with a candida problem. This social stigma plays on the insecurity of humans and taps directly into our phony ideas of what makes us male and female and even our sexuality. This social stigma furthers the belief that if you wash your ass as a man you must be gay.

Men, that thing you call dick cheese? That's candida. It can grow inside of your other cavities just like a vagina.

Women, your vagina is normal. You don't need an exclusive product to make you feel like you're the only gender with this problem. Happy Vagina Appreciation Day.

Fuck you Monistat.
 
w01fg4ng said:
Self awareness is a pretty cool thing.
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Tell that to Justin Bieber.

The guy looks like the worst of the worst white trash. Apparently this deadlocked look of his seems to miss the obviously mismatched ill fitting clothing my 7 year old could have designed and while the hair looks really embarassing, its not culture appropriation at all.

Anyone CAN get dreadlocks, unless you're bald, some just wear it better than others.

Afro hair suits cornrows and dreads naturally because of the hair type , looks pretty hit too and dreads are ok on ppl they suit, caucasian hair can do it but can look shitty, who cares anyway.


I suspect there's only a handful of morons who really think Bieber is being a racist type thing but hashtag that trends dont include Bieber for his talent this week much.

Guy looks like shit, the dreads look shit , not even close to anything about the black culture here, this is white trash through and through.

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Justin Bieber is not fly for a white guy
 
This little gem of a story is not about the thread title specifically and is more about a complete KAREN is turning a nothingburger into some race/skin colour discrimination shitshow.

Had a lol at this, it's so dumb that idiots jump onto an already confusing topic du jour (racism/culture) and make it so ridiculous that its obscuring ACTUAL issues which deserve more attention.

KAREN wants cheap make-up miracle

"Medium beige" is actually incredibly dark.

Men can wear make up too so being so concerned about women is sexist.

what's next, skin colour crayons? Its a bit more work but any idiot should be able to blend their own and the point of cheap make up is its cheap.
 
Let’s have some stories about people or organisations that stood their ground, stared down the cancellers, and rode it out until they gave up.

Jordan Peterson the best example. He still has his academic job and his publishers stared down the woke junior staff who canpaigned to drop him and his books.

JK Rowling another one. I reckon she would have done it even without all her fuck you money.

The one I really like is Trader Joe’s sticking with Trader Jose’s.
 
TheLoveBandit said:

Former Virginia Tech soccer player sues coach, claiming she was forced off team for refusing to kneel before games​




There are two sides to every story, and we're only getting one here. However, it shows someone being punished for NOT supporting BLM. Do our left leaning members support her right to her own opinion, her own decision to NOT kneel?
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This kneeling crap is about subservience, literally bending the knee to a political ideology. The establishments political ideology of choice which is some mashup of neo liberal and neo conservative principles.
Based Japan sees the kneeling for what it is and has banned it for the Tokyo Olympic Games coming up. Saw woke Twitter people seething about it the other day.
 
It's fucked up to kick people off of teams or otherwise fire them or whatever, whether they choose to kneel or not.

I disagree that kneeling is a sign of subservience to an ideology, I consider it instead a form of peaceful and effective protest. But regardless of what I think about it, it's fucked up to not just let individuals express themselves by either kneeling or not kneeling.
 
Xorkoth said:
It's fucked up to kick people off of teams or otherwise fire them or whatever, whether they choose to kneel or not.

I disagree that kneeling is a sign of subservience to an ideology, I consider it instead a form of peaceful and effective protest. But regardless of what I think about it, it's fucked up to not just let individuals express themselves by either kneeling or not kneeling.
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Would you agree that making it mandatory by default is bad? The neo liberal establishment making it mandatory makes it seem implied that ur a kkk klansmen if you dare not to. I would never for any reason, and I feel nervous even typing this. Seems dystopian
 
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