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I have here about 460mg of molly. I haven't taken molly in about two years, and the last roll I had was weak as hell (I think it was shitty quality, I tested it and it only turned light purple....) Anyway, so this stuff has been vouched for by some friends, and apparently it's very good stuff. I haven't tested it (I know-- I should... but I don't have a test kit!) so I'm just gonna trust what my friends told me. Also, I took methylone about 2 months ago (Thanksgiving night) and I have taken it frequently for about a year (once a month) and always dosed very high (about 650mg).

So my question is...Will my high doses of methylone affect my molly roll, even though it's been about 2 months since my last methylone roll? How much molly should I take? Should I redose? :?

Thanks for your input!
 
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What kind of substance are you suppose to have? MDMA or methylone? You have to test your stuff. Test kits are easily bought online, so there really is no excuse.

There are many ways of dosing, and it varies what people prefer.

For MDMA erowid states:
- Common (small or sensitive people): 60 - 90 mg
- Common (most people): 75 - 125 mg
- Common (large or less sensitive people): 110 - 150 mg

Another common guideline is to take 1-2 mg/kg, with a booster 0.5-1mg/kg after 1-2 hour if wanted.
 
1.5 mg/kg followed by .5 mg/kg two to three hours later is best for someone experienced as it should leave anyone floored. You could honestly use less and still have a glowing experience
 
tacodude said:
1.5 mg/kg followed by .5 mg/kg two to three hours later is best for someone experienced as it should leave anyone floored. You could honestly use less and still have a glowing experience
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This amound should not leave anyone floored.

For a person of 70 kg, that equals a dose of 105 mg, with a redose of 35 mg. It's not a big dose at all.
 
between 100 and 150 mg - if your built like a brick shit house/regular user start on higher end. 150+ as a starter dose for a lot of people could be uncomfortable (as the new breed of pills has shown - less mg's but good quality is the way to go)
 
luxray said:
This amound should not leave anyone floored.

For a person of 70 kg, that equals a dose of 105 mg, with a redose of 35 mg. It's not a big dose at all.
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My point exactly. Not a lot is needed.... Floored may have been an over exaggeration, but you'll definitely roll.
 
Do a simple acetone wash and you are likely to be left ~80% MDMA. With MDMA.HCL aka crystal, the max MDMA content is 84% of the weight, 80% makes calculations easier. So take your weight in Kgs, times 1.5 divided by 0.8 and you get a guideline for dose.
Or just multiply your weight by 1.9 (1.5/0.8 equals about 1.9)
 
bla-ljus said:
Do a simple acetone wash and you are likely to be left ~80% MDMA. With MDMA.HCL aka crystal, the max MDMA content is 84% of the weight, 80% makes calculations easier. So take your weight in Kgs, times 1.5 divided by 0.8 and you get a guideline for dose.
Or just multiply your weight by 1.9 (1.5/0.8 equals about 1.9)
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Dosing guidelines found online are for MDMA.HCl, so no need to convert the dose, you'll end up dosing higher than intended that way. MDMA found on the street is always MDMA.HCl
 
are you implying that an acetone wash would remove the HCl part? it doesn't. if you're left with only 80% of your weight, then there were impurities inside (or you didn't use anhydrous acetone). HCl isn't an impurity, it's part of the crystal structure.

and +1 to all dose recommendations being MDMA·HCl
 
tacodude said:
My point exactly. Not a lot is needed.... Floored may have been an over exaggeration, but you'll definitely roll.
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There is a huge difference in definitely rolling, and taking so much that it floores you.

If you take in mind that most street quality MDMA isn't as pure as lab-grade MDMA, 1.5mg/kg can actually be a very small dose. Especially when you think about the fact that the standard dosage for MDMA-assisted therapy is 125 mg lab-grade MDMA.

Always start low on a new batch, before you figure out how strong it is. You can always take more.
The batch I have now is not as strong as what I've had earlier (tested with purity-test, and personal experience), and I need a much higher dose because of that (impurities). With this batch I'm taking 2.3 mg/kg, with a redose of 1.1 mg/kg. With my previous batches I used 1.7 mg/kg with a redose of 1 mg/kg.

Where I live most MDMA crystals contain around 70% MDMA (the government's numbers) and nearly all the product that they have ceased as MDMA has turned out to actually be MDMA.
 
luxray said:
This around should not leave anyone floored.

For a person of 70 kg, that equals a dose of 105 mg, with a redose of 35 mg. It's not a big dose at all.
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Last time I had some of this quality stuff that was shipped where it is made best it only took 90 to have me floored if I was not experienced..... I mean I was at a rave party and spent the most part of the night in the chill out zone chatting and rubbing my belly. It took a few hours for me to redose the other 30 I had. I probably would have gotten overwhelmed with all at once or a closer redose. Of course setting comes into play as well as I keep my tolerance low, but I know I could easily get away with 60 mg for a glowing experienced with pure while 100-120+ could easily be overwhelming physically.

In hr sake it's better to give a recommendation that would be small for some and safe for everyone vs. Overwhelming no matter what sometimes too strong eh?
 
tacodude said:
Last time I had some of this quality stuff that was shipped where it is made best it only took 90 to have me floored if I was not experienced..... I mean I was at a rave party and spent the most part of the night in the chill out zone chatting and rubbing my belly. It took a few hours for me to redose the other 30 I had. I probably would have gotten overwhelmed with all at once or a closer redose. Of course setting comes into play as well as I keep my tolerance low, but I know I could easily get away with 60 mg for a glowing experienced with pure while 100-120+ could easily be overwhelming physically.

In hr sake it's better to give a recommendation that would be small for some and safe for everyone vs. Overwhelming no matter what sometimes too strong eh?
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Read my comment above, were I've already written that one should always start low on a new batch.

The recommendations I've given are normal doses, that are safe to start with:
For MDMA erowid states:
- Common (small or sensitive people): 60 - 90 mg
- Common (most people): 75 - 125 mg
- Common (large or less sensitive people): 110 - 150 mg

Another common guideline is to take 1-2 mg/kg, with a booster 0.5-1mg/kg after 1-2 hour if wanted.
 
Thanks everyone for your input. I ended up taking a 150mg dose and then redosing at 75mg an hour after my initial dose. I rolled balls and it was awesome 8o
 
Nice! Happy for ya. Just keep it like this, if you won't roll more than once a month you don't have to dose higher and you shouldn't have any hangover ever (at least, not from mdma :D) I do like this and every time it's like my first time :)
 
Thanks myr! I don't plan on taking it more than every couple of months and I think I'll stick with that dose. I might wait a little longer to redose though, maybe at the 1.5 hour mark. My peak didn't last as long as I would have liked. Although maybe that's normal for molly (it lasted about 2.5 hours)
 
@poutie:
You say your peak lasted 2,5hrs with a redose? That's short but again you redosed half an hour earlier than optimal. Imho it's best to drop the second dose 1hr after you peaked. I metabolize MDMA quiclky too, this way I get ~3-3,5hrs of peak dropping 120+60. I'm envy at some folks here rolling 4-5 hrs. :)

Please stop calling it molly which refers to a number of substances, thank you :)

@taco:
i guess you are pretty sensitive to it. Lucky :) I'm 70kg and while I could roll off 100mgs, that would leave me wanting a bit more.
 
I just haven't used it much although I'm damn knowledgeable and experienced in my groups of friends and know how to recognize effect so I get a good roll while dosing low so I don't get negative physical side effects.
 
I never get negative effects, apart from sleepiness (worse the lower the dose) and nausea during come up (same no matter how I dose). I've never gotten a bad comedown or after effects either. Not when I've underdosed, and not the time I overdosed either (around 400 mg quality product by mistake, was floored the whole time, had a great time after the first half an hour was passed).

I really doesn't like the low dose feeling of MDMA, especially since dosing low basically makes it a sleeping med for me. It makes you stay in the "in between" land, that really just is weird. I don't want just a taste of MDMA-land the few times I'm rolling, I want to fully be there. :)

Take good breaks in between rolls, test your stuff, and keep the doses pretty low throughout the night. Stay safe :)
 
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