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crystal meth...first time using

tical_x

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my friend and i recently purchased two 20 bags of glass from a good friend.(1/3 gram) we have never done it before, but wanted to try. a couple questions i wanna ask before i try it this friday:
1. How should the 20 be consumed (line, multiple bumps, etc)
2. Any tips for bad comedowns (smoking weed, etc)
3. How long before i will be able to sleep?
All your help will be very appreciated.
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two pills i pop til my pupils swell up like two pennies
 
Tical X - Do not read that bullshit link posted by Stinky. Just because one idiot raver kid got hooked and fucked up his life does not mean that you will. Crystal meth did not ruin that dude's life, his life was ruined by his own ignorance and utter lack of self-control. To answer your question, you should start with a average sized line and then take bumps every 2-3 hours as neccessary. Using 1/3 gram between 2 people should keep you awake for about 6-8 hours after you quit. And yes, if you like marijuana it will help with the comedown as will any benzo or alcohol.
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"All great things must first wear a terrifying and monstrous mask in order to inscribe themselves on the face of humanity"
-Nietzsche
 
Oh yes. Let's discard the experiences of others - they can't POSSIBLY apply.
Instead, lets go direct to the ever-popular Erowid and retrieve the following:
Positive Meth Effects
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Increased energy and alertness
Decreased need for sleep
Euphoria
Increased sexuality
Neutral Meth Effects
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excessive talking
weight loss
sweating
visual & auditory hallucinations (hearing voices)
Negative Meth Effects
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disturbed sleep patterns
dis-interest in friends, sex, or food
itching, welts on skin
nausea, vomiting, diarrhea
excessive excitation, hyperactivity
shortness of breath
moodiness & irritability
anxiousness & nervousness
aggressiveness
involuntary body movements (uncontrollable movement and/or twitches of fingers, facial & body muscles, lip-smaking, tongue protrusion, grimacing, etc.)
panic, suspiciousness & paranoia
malnutrition & anorexia
false sense of confidence and power
delusions of grandeur)
aggressive and violent behavior
severe depression, suicidal tendencies
Possible Long Term Effects
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fatal kidney and lung disorders
possible brain damage
permanent psychological problems
lowered resistance to illnesses
liver damage
stroke
Addiction Potential
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Methamphetamine causes significant tolerance, as well as psychological dependence. This combination can be particularly bad because the user is likely to have strong cravings for more meth, while at the same time being unable to reach a satisfactory high.
Withdrawal from high doses can produce severe depression.
 
usually when I do meth, I do a good sized line to start, then small lines or bumps every hour or so till the bags gone. I generally start early sat. night and go to sleep early monday morning or afternoon....
 
Well, it's hard to say how much you should take on your first time. First of all because I don't know how much is in 'a 20 bag' and second because you don't know how much of the powder is really meth (and what is cut). Just start with a very small dosage (a bump) and see from there. Remember: the more you take, the more you'll feel like shit the next day.
What to do about the comedown? Let me tell you (this is VERY IMPORTANT): Since it's your first time, eating is out of the question (if the meth is any good, that is), but try to drink a lot and take some 'liquid food' (milk-products and stuff). Some will recommend you to take some vitamines or stuff like that, but that is total BS! If it's your first time, you don't need that crap.
Speed causes dehydration faster then any other drugs I can imagine so if you don't want to feel a total wrek the next day, make sure you stay hydrated! Oh yeah, I personally wouldn't recommend to smoke weed on the comedown but I guess some will (I hate cannabis) so...it's up 2 you!
I hope this is of some use to ya...
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The mind is a labyrinth, ladies and gentlemen. A puzzle. And while the paths of the brain are clearly visible, its ways deceptively patterned, its destinations are unknown, its secrets still secrets. And, if we are honest, it is the lure of the labyrinth that draws us to our chosen field, to unlock those secrets. Others have been here before us and have left us signs, but we, as explorers of the mind, must devote our lives and energies to going further, to tread the unexplored corridors in the hope of finding ultimately...the final solution. We have to see, we have to know...!
 
I agree with Dr.Gonzo about Stinky's link...don't blame the drug, blame the user. There are many who have been able to use meth wisely and relatively safely -- and certainly without becoming addicted. Just don't take the damn stuff every day.
Presuming the stuff you have is actual meth, your dosing seems decent...but as other suggested, start out light and work your way up -- you can always take more but you can't take meth OUT of your body.
As far as administration goes, I don't reccommend snorting meth, personally. It hurts like a bitch and it doesn't last very long, and in addition I always feel like I msut be wasting tons of it in the sides of my nostril(s). I suggest either taking it orally (crushing it up into a fine powder, then putting it in a capsule and swallowing it) or injecting it (this is REALLY the way to go
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). Orally is a nice mellow trip that lasts longer and has a fairly smooth comedown (providing you have good stuff), allowing you to sleep about 8 or so hours after you ingest. Injection gives you a fantastic rush and makes the most of your meth -- cause you don't need nearly as much and you waste very little. It is a strong high but it doesn't last too long -- I could sleep 5 hours after injection.
I really emphasize the point someone already made about keep hydrated -- not only will you have a better high, but you will reduce some of the toxicity, you will recover more quickly, and you will feel MUCH better the next day. I really can't stress this too much -- drink that H2O. I also reccommend postloading -- disregard the guy below who says...
Some will recommend you to take some vitamines or stuff likethat, but that is total BS! If it's your first time, you don't need that crap.
The above is simply not true. You can *ALWAYS* benefit from taking supplements which will --
a) help minimize neurotoxicity from dopamine release (take antioxidants like alpha-lipoic acid, l-cysteine (an amino acid as well), vitamin e, and vitamin c -- the first three are especially helpful, I would take 500 mg of each when you get high, 500 mg of each when you come down, and then 500 mg of each nightly for the next two days.)
b)help your brain rebuild its dopamine and serotonin (take 300 mg 5-htp and 2000 mg dlpa or l-tyrosine at comedown, and then 1000 mg dlpa nightly for the next two days)
Be safe and have fun.
 
Yeah, Meth is fun. But I would say you take those crystals and smoke them, fuck snorting, that shit is gay, i have done it once and it is nothing special, i think smokin it is much more fun and gets you higher (imHo)
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I dont like the drugs.
The Drugs Like Me.
-M.M
 
I totaly agree that it is possible to use meth or any other drug in moderation. But, I wanted him to see what CAN happen. If you'll notice, the person who told the story reported not being able to control the addiction and that he was basically hooked after one time. I think this might have something do with where we live and the availiblity of meth. Utah (where I live) has the second largest amount of meth labs in the country next to california. Keep in mind that there are about 50,000,000 people in cali and about 2,300,000 here. So I assume meth must be cheeper and more pure around here then in other parts of the country. All I wanted to do with that link was point out what meth can do to a person. BTW, this is a very common story around here so its not like this kid was one in a million. This type of thing happens to all meth addicts eventually (mabey not as severe but I have never met a long time meth user that didn't regret it every time they bought a bag). If OD is truely about Harm Reduction then don't flame me because that is exactly what I am doing.
peace
 
thanks alot for all the info...i was originally planning on railing the meth, but if it is more beneficial to capsule it then i might just do that. for anyone that was mistaken by "20 bag", around here $20=1/3 of a gram, therefore a gram would be 60. we each bought a 20, so we each have 1/3 of a gram to ourselves. obviously im not positive if this is uncut meth, but i know its at least very decent. the kid who sold it to me is a very good friend and drug dealer, and was tweaking off of the same shit that he sold us. a little more input on method of ingestion (excluding injection), would be very helpful. thanks
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two pills i pop til my pupils swell up like two pennies
 
I disagree with ya, fairnymph. First of all:
- If you're using methampethamine for the first time, and the stuff is any good, then you will definitly not sleep 8 hours after use. You really don't!
Well, you can if either the meth is shitty or you have a really low dosage, but if it's your first time do not expect to sleep after 8 hours. Maybe after 18 (propably a lot longer).
And second:
- I do agree meth (or any kind of strong stimulant) will break down certain vitamine-levels in your blood and it's important that you refill them, but when using for the first time, takin' vitamines will defenitly not have any effect on the comedown. I'm positive! What you need is calories + liquid...
I've used a lot of speed in the last 5 years, the last 6 months on a daily basis (amphetaminesulfate), so I'm not talking out of my ass about this!
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The mind is a labyrinth, ladies and gentlemen. A puzzle. And while the paths of the brain are clearly visible, its ways deceptively patterned, its destinations are unknown, its secrets still secrets. And, if we are honest, it is the lure of the labyrinth that draws us to our chosen field, to unlock those secrets. Others have been here before us and have left us signs, but we, as explorers of the mind, must devote our lives and energies to going further, to tread the unexplored corridors in the hope of finding ultimately...the final solution. We have to see, we have to know...!
 
If you want my advice, I say don't do it. But since it seems you have heart set on it, you must remember that moderation is the key. Drugs are only as addictive as you let them be.
And on another note, you'd be better off injecting or smoking the meth. Snorting meth just isn't very kind to the nose.
 
ok i don't know what the fuck that person who suggested to IV it was trying to say but he/she is a fucking idiot, never inject meth into u, its the most dangerous method. for your 1st time, snort it, its the simplest temthod, just get a straw cut ~7cm long and draw a line and do it. Or smoke it .
 
MzKzM --
takin' vitamines will defenitly not have any effect on the comedown
Perhaps you should go back and actually READ throroughly what I wrote. I did not claim that taking vitamins would help his comedown -- I only mentioned that water would. I claimed that the vitamins will help with a) nuerotoxicity and b)improved brain function and repair. I said NOTHING in regard to vitamins and the comedown.
Regarding sleeping after meth -- I don't know what kind of ridiculously high doses YOU take, but I too am an experienced meth user and have experienced the kind of effects I mentioned in my first post. YES, I was able to sleep after 8 hours after my first dose, which was ~1/4- 1/3 gram, taken orally. You may have had different experiences with meth -- these are mine, and the more information we give the poster of the thread, the better, IMHO.
Murdoc --
I don't think you should be calling me a fucking idiot unless you have any evidence to back your statement up. It is true that injecting meth is the most dangerous route of administration -- but said route is not without its advantages, either. As I mentioned earlier, meth when injected results in a better high, is more cost efficient, and lasts for a shorter period of time so that one can sleep sooner, than any other form of meth use. If done with caution, using sterile needles and equipment, and filtered meth, injection is not much more dangerous than any other meth use -- and it is probably safer than snorting, which is very corrosive to the nasal passages.
 
On a binge, I will go through a quarter gram in two days. If I'm NOT binging I can make a quarter gram last for five or six days. It is easy to control, anyone with a little willpower and/or common sense can avoid real addiction.
I'm a pussy, I snort it. Sure it's not as manly as banging it, but it's really fucking cool to watch a person who knows how to handle a razorblade. My supplier carves his eight balls into pictures, it's a real talent!
Adios,
Steve
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Could you provide more infor on taking Meth orally. I started out smoking it, got really sick of that fast and switched to strictly railing. But I do find it is pretty hard on the nose. How much should I be taking orally? Put a line of what I would normally snort into some water and drink? Please eleborate .....
Thanks!
And also using Meth once will not make you an addict, I have used Meth several times and am able to space it out a lot, ie once every 2 months or so. Once you experience a couple bad come downs you won't want to go through those again for a long time!
 
fairnymph -
Ok, you're right: you didn't said vitamines would have a direct effect on the comedown.
My only point was (ment to be): Just make sure to stay hydrated and try to get some nutrition and you should be fine. I can't tell by experience if what you recommended would work, so I will shut up about that...
Further: you really catched some sleep 8 hours after your first time meth? I think that's quite unbelievable, but ok: you're right...different people respond in a different way, so... but I think most people would stay awake for a lot longer after (their first time) using methamphetamine. I did 4 damned sure...
I'm sorry if my spelling sucks. This isn't my native language...I'm dutch U C!
 
fairnymph
i am not going to look for the info, i know it was on erowid, but it is!, just go to any intelligent bbs and ask, i would suggest hive or shroomery, its a general consences that this is one of the lesser intelligent boards and with people like u here i can see why.
orally, is probably the least harmfull but also the least efficient. U'll need to take a higher dose.
 
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