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Crusties v Cops
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FWIW I got nothing against violence to the 5O if theres passion and meaning behind it, dropping a concrete slab on a rozzers head from the second of story of a building because of a shop is not excusable though.
Watching the videos of people throwing bottles etc, they looked like they felt like they should be doing it not that they were fighting for anything really. Theres even one bloke, looks like some random student, throwing bottles and then wincing as if hes worried about what hes going to hit, fucking idiot. I'd say about 80 percent of the people there were rioting for the sake of it, the others were massivley confused about what they thought they were actually going to achieve. All of them have probably shopped in tescos and most of them will probably shop in tescos at some point. Got nothing against standing up against tescos, it needs to happen, but this isn't the way.
Clearly its the police's fault for coming in so heavy handed, they always come in rediculously heavy-handed, they had around 6 riot vans just to shut down a squat just round the corner from there last year aswell. But rioting for sake of it does a massive diservice to anyone doing it for a real cause imo, most of them were probably just pissed that they'd have to find another place to squat to supplement their massive K addictions.
Watching the videos of people throwing bottles etc, they looked like they felt like they should be doing it not that they were fighting for anything really. Theres even one bloke, looks like some random student, throwing bottles and then wincing as if hes worried about what hes going to hit, fucking idiot. I'd say about 80 percent of the people there were rioting for the sake of it, the others were massivley confused about what they thought they were actually going to achieve. All of them have probably shopped in tescos and most of them will probably shop in tescos at some point. Got nothing against standing up against tescos, it needs to happen, but this isn't the way.
Clearly its the police's fault for coming in so heavy handed, they always come in rediculously heavy-handed, they had around 6 riot vans just to shut down a squat just round the corner from there last year aswell. But rioting for sake of it does a massive diservice to anyone doing it for a real cause imo, most of them were probably just pissed that they'd have to find another place to squat to supplement their massive K addictions.
mattnotrik
Bluelighter
Whoever threw that is an absolute tosser
WHOS STREETS, OUR STREETS
ha, yeah fuck off
perfect haze
Bluelighter
FIFY
Dose 'em up. let the animals loose and prove that 'their' protection is pertinent and just.
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That cascades the myriad of other issues that got steamrollered by the shitstorm.
It's not that the old bill do it through naiveity, bloodlust or necessity. It's a constructed narrative built by a collusion of the prospectee, the landowner, the enforcer and the reporter.
when they all profit from the same conxlusion, you are in some DEEP FUCKING water.
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I'm drunk and I haven't read other peoples replies but you sir are a cock.
I was talking about squatters really, being a bit harsh though maybe. But that is a good point, and alot of people are saying the pigs are being stupid or whatever (which they may be) but the orders being given aren't random, the time they chose was an odd one and probably had a good reason which i'm guessing is what you were getting at. Also i'm sure the petrol bombs angle was aload of shit to cover their backs from the start.
perfect haze
Bluelighter
Aye, I know you ait the enemy or anything man. justy residual anger all over the shop. or "express store"....soz
I am fully behind the sentiment of the protestors I have to say, but I cannot condone violence against other people (not things!) for this cause. It's not justified. Damage to the store I don't give a shit about :D
Boycotting that Tesco hopefully will work once it reopens, but it is a blight upon the beautiful area of Stokes Croft with it's unique independent and community atmosphere.. it might bring other people into the area to use it, and as Perfect Haze said Tesco are aiming for the monopoly - one store not doing brilliantly is neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things.
It is sometimes hard to resist cheapness and convenience just for the sake of ethics, especially when you are skint and short of time, but I am going to do my best to avoid all Tescos like the plague from now on..
Boycotting that Tesco hopefully will work once it reopens, but it is a blight upon the beautiful area of Stokes Croft with it's unique independent and community atmosphere.. it might bring other people into the area to use it, and as Perfect Haze said Tesco are aiming for the monopoly - one store not doing brilliantly is neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things.
It is sometimes hard to resist cheapness and convenience just for the sake of ethics, especially when you are skint and short of time, but I am going to do my best to avoid all Tescos like the plague from now on..
cherrycolouredfunk
Bluelighter
Squatters are back in Telepathic heights. Saw someone putting up curtains when I walked past this morning 
Tesco is all boarded up, with two police men stood guard across the street.
Tesco is all boarded up, with two police men stood guard across the street.
Squatters are back in Telepathic heights. Saw someone putting up curtains when I walked past this morning
Tesco is all boarded up, with two police men stood guard across the street.
Yay for Telepathic Heights! Good that Tesco is not open too.
cherrycolouredfunk
Bluelighter
It'll be futile to re-open. The same thing will just happen again and again and again.
The Daily Fail described Stokes Croft as 'a quirky area of Bristol'. I'm glad I live in the quirky area
The Daily Fail described Stokes Croft as 'a quirky area of Bristol'. I'm glad I live in the quirky area
cherrycolouredfunk
Bluelighter
^ Wrong
Having spent time in the Squat, I can assure you that ALL of them are from Bristol, the majority of them are very intelligent people. There was a meeting held between the squatters, police and council on Friday about the whole situation. There is a very strong sense of community in this area. I've never felt it in a city as strongly as I've felt it in Bristol.
The local council has pretty much written off Stokes Croft, so the local community took it upon themselves to make it their own, with street art, music, graffiti practice walls to paint on.
There's more to it than just 'not liking the chain store'. It did not suit the ethos of the area, plus there are already 3 tescos within 2 miles of each other in the area. There have been peaceful protests in front of the tesco all of last week. The violence mainly happened due to a heavy police presence which was aggravating the already electric atmosphere.
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parttime crackhead
Bluelighter
That's not really the case with a Tesco Express though, is it?
Doubtful. Those clowns were not rioting because of a Tesco. Anyone that riots because a fucking shop opened is a total moron.
They were rioting because they'd been kicked out of the building they had stole, or just because there was a riot kicking off & it would be fun to join in. I'm not gonna lie, I'd have joined in but I'd have at least been honest about the fact I was doing it for fun.
Are they protesting those other two Tescos as well? Or are they not conveniently located next to the squat, therefore they don't actually give a fuck about Tesco being open. "Aye, you can have a Tesco a mile (so a few minutes) walk up the road no bother, but if you put one on this street it's getting petrol bombed" Idiots.
brimz
Bluelighter
you obviously never been 2 Stokes Croft n surronding areas , their are alot of small independent retailers that have been around years n also their are alot of ethnicities represented in te area n the independent shops cater 4 them.
Tesco is n't NEEDED .
cherrycolouredfunk
Bluelighter
It's A LOT more than that. I just can't be bothered to explain it now.
http://notesco.wordpress.com/ All you need to know.
The 2 year long say no to tesco campaign, the many local council meetings the previous occupation of buildings tesco has bought in the area suggest otherwise.
there was only 10 or so people living in that building though, just many more sympathetic to the plight/general anti police/tesco. you know fuck all about the area why are you talking about it with any sense of authority?
the people protesting are not all crusties, they are majority families, normal people, residents of the area. every time tesco has tried to make a move in stokes croft it has been shut down. the other tescos are in other locales with less of an action in the community type population. it's nothing to do with the location of the squat, the say no to tesco campaign is in stokes croft not any other areas so they'd be idiots to focus on other areas. the majority of people behind this campaign are tax paying people with families who are residents of the area.
you seem like a good lad pc and are a good laugh but sometimes you need to drop this small-town one-of-the-lads mentality and step outside your comfort zone. your aggression towards anything a bit different just reeks of desperation to conform.
parttime crackhead
Bluelighter
Lol at your last sentence. Get a grip. You obviously know fuck all about my "mentality" if that's what you think. Fair enough i don't know anything about the area so might have been a bit hasty in my comments. I never said they were all crusties.
What I don't get is that if there are two other Tescos within walking distance then why does a 3rd one really matter? Why is that one going to close down local businesses but the other two haven't already closed them down?
What I don't get is that if there are two other Tescos within walking distance then why does a 3rd one really matter? Why is that one going to close down local businesses but the other two haven't already closed them down?
last sentence was just to wind you up, seemed to work 
the other tescos are not in stokes croft, one is in the town centre which is not a residential area full of independent business one is in bishopston which is more of an affluent white/student area where it isn't really a threat to the higher end shops located there.
the other tescos are not in stokes croft, one is in the town centre which is not a residential area full of independent business one is in bishopston which is more of an affluent white/student area where it isn't really a threat to the higher end shops located there.
mattnotrik
Bluelighter
Surely all the people that "care" about this tesco opening dont want it there because they think it will affect the small business... but what if then they all just continued to shop at there small business and not shop at tesco, then nothing would change. They would still get the same amount of customers and tesco would have to close there shop because no one would go?
But its not going to happen is it? because people want to shop at tesco because its cheap, so some people will choose to go there instead. Why dont the crusties then go and smash the windows of the people who choose to shop at tesco, its a choice is it not?
its like saying we dont want you here, because when you open were all probally going to shop here?/
But its not going to happen is it? because people want to shop at tesco because its cheap, so some people will choose to go there instead. Why dont the crusties then go and smash the windows of the people who choose to shop at tesco, its a choice is it not?
its like saying we dont want you here, because when you open were all probally going to shop here?/
Tesco will attempt to price other retailers out of the market. Very aggressively. The independents simply can't match that kind of buying power and ability to virtually rob suppliers at gunpoint.
Of course it's a 'choice'... for now. Many parts of the UK have no such choice though; it's retail giants or nothing, and I'm sure the residents of Stokes Croft (crusties or otherwise) have this in mind.
As a symbolic act alone I think it's pretty fucking beautiful.