Heroin Crazy potent Tar? wtf.

[Pill__Head]

so i gave in today and picked up a ball of tar ( all we got west coast unfortunately...) but this stuff I just got looks different then all other tar ive goten it before. yes it was a new connect, so it probly just cut differently, but my buddy did a tiny shot was like half a tic-tac my guess would of been like 35-45mgs, and he was fucking OUT of it...I mean I made had to force him to swallow one of his Dextro's or I think he would of OD, well he did OD but he would of died, i have never sen a person nodding/basically just ODing idk how else to exlplain his behavor. But about 40 mins after I got him to swallow the amphetamine( his rx, lucky he had it on him) he started to wake to from his nod/sleeding state..

anyways FUCK it seems to be potent.. but it looks weird ill try to explain: Its a brownish color, like if molasses were to dry, but not quite as shiny and slighty lighter brown, It has some black looking obsidian like tar, but very little of it, it beaks apart way easier than any other tar ive had, it doesnt have a vinegary smell really at all.

Im not really sure what im trying to get from this thread.. perhaps some thoughts on the actaul quality of this dope, should I be careful could it possibly be cut with fent, is that done with tar even...? Its deff. cut w/ some sugar I can taste that.

 

[legalizeall]

Ive seen that before and even though i cant for surely say what you have, for what you have said it just sounds like the good shit

 

[Lorne???]

Yeah, sounds like some good stuff.

Is there a histamine rush? Pins and needles?

(FYI, if you're awake 40 mins after a shot of dope, you're ok)

 

[Pill__Head]

IDK i wish i could tell you I took 6mg sub 24 hrs ago, so i still cant really feel it yet.. gunna try smoking a lil' and testing to see if any receptors are open. %)

 

[Pill__Head]

Someone just had a large wall of text, full of questions... where did it go, lol?
Well to answer some if I can remember,,,,:
-No its not quite tanish in color at all realNly.
- No is not quite as malleable as play dough, but i can slightly both sides a chunk and sretch it out a little bit before it relatively easily breaks off, and its not a shattering break like most other tar, its softer than that..
- I always have just gotten my dope in either foil or some half ass type of plastic with fucken holes in it , dope falling out haha godamn dealers... if they could just get their shit together, WOW.
- the smell... I couldnt put a good 'item' to the smell of it,,,,, to me it just smell like what heroin is supposed to smell like..

 

[Lorne???]

How are you doing it?(the "tar"?)

6mg sub shouldn't at all be blocking diamorphine 24 hours later, unless you take buprenorphine on a daily basis.

Buprenorphine can only block receptors it's stimulating, remember.

(Oh, come to think of it, you do take it everyday, you have strips! Sorry!)

 

[Lorne???]

Someone just had a large wall of text, full of questions... where did it go, lol?

.

It must have gotten hold of some good tar!?

 

[Pill__Head]

@ LORNE
I am on sub maintenance so yes i have been taking it nearly daily for just about 4 weeks now..

With your 'expertice' or so to say in the world of pharmacology and whatever else, how long do 'ya think i'd take to feel the dope?

I KNOW my tolerance must of come down quick a bit from thr 120mg of methadone i was on before, just from being on the bupe... so hopefully I'll be able to get some sort of a high or even a buzz would be nice..

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

lol.. it was my wall of text %)
I deleted it since i dont know much about tar.. im in New England so its all east coast powder.. i was just trying to help with what limited knowledge about it i have, but after posting i saw that people with experience with it had answered so i deleted it because they can most likely help you more than i can.
Didn't wanna give false info, even if on accident.
Sorry to delete it like that.

-HOOD

 

[Pill__Head]

lol.. it was my wall of text %)
I deleted it since i dont know much about tar.. im in New England so its all east coast powder.. i was just trying to help with what limited knowledge about it i have, but after posting i saw that people with experience with it had answered so i deleted it because they can most likely help you more than i can.
Didn't wanna give false info, even if on accident.
Sorry to delete it like that.

-HOOD

oh haha was you! no worries brotha. How did I do though at answering your questions I only read over once then repied to 5 mins later,,, haha...still all input is more than welcome to all my posts... thats why I make them!

 

[Lorne???]

6mg is a kind of "borderline" dose, it's just enough to start blocking.

With that said, you could shoot through it now, but of course that's risky. But me? I'd fuckin fill my receptors with morphine

36-48 hours, you'll be fine. Remember that even at the max doses of 24-32mg, only 87% of receptors are filled(not conjecture, studies have shown this)

(Edit to add it COULD take up to 72 hours for the full effect, but that's WCS.)

And yes, I am the expert at "whatever else". ?

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

oh haha was you! no worries brotha. How did I do though at answering your questions I only read over once then repied to 5 mins later,,, haha...still all input is more than welcome to all my posts... thats why I make them!

My idea wouldn't be right with the answers you had lol.. i dont wanna put what i had in mind up for fear some asshole dealer might get ideas from it, plus its kinda stupid and would only work for smoking AFAIK, not IV (i should have realized my thought was wrong right away lol).
Sorry man, the other people responding will have better ideas than what mine was.

-HOOD

 

[Pill__Head]

6mg is a kind of "borderline" dose, it's just enough to start blocking.

With that said, you could shoot through it now, but of course that's risky. But me? I'd fuckin fill my receptors with morphine

36-48 hours, you'll be fine. Remember that even at the max doses of 24-32mg, only 87% of receptors are filled(not conjecture, studies have shown this)

(Edit to add it COULD take up to 72 hours for the full effect, but that's WCS.)

And yes, I am the expert at "whatever else". ��

I am come to believe that you trurly are and expert 'whatever it is'; and add so much to this from, thanks buddy

Anyways, Ive always had a FAST metabolism to pharmaceuticals...and food....LOL.

Hey, thanks for those numbers.

 

[Pill__Head]

do you think slammin would be more effective than smoking in terms of trying to possibly breakthrough / get buzz once bupe has left my system or has a small amount in it?

 

[Lorne???]

do you think slammin would be more effective than smoking in terms of trying to possibly breakthrough / get buzz once bupe has left my system or has a small amount in it?

Of course. But still start with a "test dose" and move up from there. Don't just slam a big shot at the start!

And thanks man, appreciate it.

 

[Nicholai]

The quality of tar ranges from, typically, %10-80-ish alkaloid content, so it could just be a strong batch. From your description it sounds like what we call gunpowder, but if it doesn't smell like vinegar, especially when you prepare it, fuck that shit, it's not even tar....

 

[Pill__Head]

The quality of tar ranges from, typically, %10-80-ish alkaloid content, so it could just be a strong batch. From your description it sounds like what we call gunpowder, but if it doesn't smell like vinegar, especially when you prepare it, fuck that shit, it's not even tar....

pssh bro,,. you dont want the smell of vinigar... that is simply leftover by-product of the process of making the tar heroin, the AA or whatever used, leaves the vinigary smell.

and trust me its tar.

 

[Lorne???]

pssh bro,,. you dont want the smell of vinigar... that is simply leftover by-product of the process of making the tar heroin, the AA or whatever used, leaves the vinigary smell.

and trust me its tar.

That.

Does sound like brown chuck though, but I've seen dope in all shapes and sizes(and colors!)

(And no way you're finding 80% tar!)

 

[Jesusgreen]

The consistency, how it looks etc - aren't going to help you tell what it is making it so strong. Really your only true way of knowing would be to send it off somewhere for GC/MS or LC/MS testing.

That said, the most likely two possibilities would be:

1) That's some freshly cooked H, not been cut yet - most stuff on the streets is between 5 and 30% pure, depending on how good or crappy a connect you have and your location, so getting stuff that's not been cut and only has leftovers from synthesis at worst, you're getting something that's 80-90% pure instead of < 30, so it'll be a huge shock.

2) It's cut with Fentanyl or a similar super potent opioid. Since Fentanyl is active in small microgram (not milligram) dosages, and since cuts will not stay of an even consistency, even if someone cuts some Heroin with just the tiniest fraction of Fentanyl, there'll likely be "hot spots" in the H where there's 2, 3 or maybe even 5 or 10x as much Fentanyl as there is in the rest, which can be enough to make your fraction of a dose crazy potent, or possibly even dangerously potent, putting someone in hospital or the morgue.

Either way just be extra cautious with it, as if it is the latter you don't want to become a statistic, and even with the former that's a possibility if you go shooting your normal amounts.

 

[mastersofine]

you got some good dope. enjoy it bro.