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Cracker/Bulberator Design

Thanks for the instructions man. I whipped one last night and had my first nangs. Not bad. I didn't glue the nail last night and just sort of bashed the nail into the bulb with a hammer. Still worked but i feel it was less than optimal, obviously.
I glued the nail today and when I screwed in the bulb the nail pushed out, what did I do wrong? I let the glue dry for like 40 minutes and it says 5 minutes so I assume thats not the problem? I glued the nail from the outside and also coated the nail with some glue, not the tip though so it shouldnt affect puncturing ability.
Any advice on what I can do to get this working properly? I'm itching to try these on an MDxx comedown and while tripping!
Cheers guys.
 
I glued the nail today and when I screwed in the bulb the nail pushed out, what did I do wrong? I let the glue dry for like 40 minutes and it says 5 minutes
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5 minute epoxy is shit for such purposes. Try the 3 day cure stuff and apply it both sides of the hole. Or better still, find a small bolt, file the end to a point and tap a thread (tapered if possible).
 
Now to make this design not dangerous, ive seen far too many like this ....

Get rid of the nail and replace with a broad flat base screw, you can still use the elbow if you wish, but i would prefer to use a basic 1" to 3/4" converter, which you can then hacksaw 6-8 small indents (1/2mm (for n2o gap, more=less ice buildup) on the inside of (the 3/4" part) (remove hacksaw blade from hacksaw, place through hole, replace, hack).

Epoxy the screw into the middle of the female cap, twist it heaps so the glue is combined, do not get glue on the thread allthough (use epoxy with easy even a-b fat syringe application ...bla)

now tighten you're converter to the male threaded middle part, these two part's will not be removed from one another. The male middle part should be about 8cm or so i think, measure it up (put a nang inside) after putting the converter on the middle piece, so make sure youre cap will screw on far enough to make sure no gas escapes.

Freeze burning urself isnt fun while tripping, because its hard to determine it has accually happened .... so put a rubber bike grip or somthing warmed up in boiling water to insulate the nanger.

Hope this helped some people, it is the most simple you can get in my opinion, if you dont understand a part of my instructions, ask yo :) !
 
harvey said:
Freeze burning urself isnt fun while tripping,
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Did it sitting in the car yesterday, didnt have a balloon so just mouthed the elbow, had to be the last bulb aswell...got a nice burn on the top of my lip...its not fun at any time :P

What are the possible dangers with not using a balloon on the op's design? Getting shards of icy stuff cutting up your throat maybe?
 
Glue on its own wont do much, what it will do is seal the hole better. Put the string on, strong stuff, you shouldnt be able to break it by hand.
I'll get up a photo in a bit, but with the string wrapped all across the nail (tightly) theres no movement in the nail when the nang is puntured. The string also works great as an insulator.

harvey, i'm actually making a design kinda like yours for the compact version but i wouldnt use glue to secure the screw, dried epoxy glue can be brittle as it is, but with the changes temperature i'd be worried about the glue failing. While it probably wouldnt be dangerous, it'll still stop a nang session in its tracks.

My plan was to use a male-male connecter and 2 female caps. Use a self tapping screw on the centre of one of the female caps and then drill several holes in the cap to let the N2O through. The only issue is the balloon needs to be stretched over the female cap, which is quite wide. I might have to steal some of your idea =D

Edit: the dangers of not using a balloon is about the same as drinking some liquid nitrogen. Just dont. If you find yourself without balloons, go get some regular party balloons and double them up (put one inside another) and it becomes strong enough to nang with
 
phase_dancer said:
Then it's probably time to admit dependance and get a tank!

It sure beats taking the rubbish out the day after a big party. When N2O was a popular favourite round these parts, it was not uncommon to next day find the wheelie bin filled to the brim with empty bulbs. It's not only heavy to push, but the sound of it emptying is something else again 8(
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ah sounds like the times at my mates place, we use to go through heaps, not to mention a friend who worked at a hospital stole 2 tanks of the stuff, god damn hospital grade was really good stuff! :D :!
 
phase_dancer said:
My only concern is with the nail and how it's fixed. If it did come loose it could become a projectile. My suggestion would be to use needle valve or something that can be screwed into a tapped hole.
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You can fix the nail using 2 m-m connectors and a f-f connector, and a T piece instead of an elbow. If the nail has a large flat head, you can trap it between the 2 m-m inside the f-f. Wrap the nail head in plumbers tape too.

You end up with a somewhat bulkier bulbicator, but works fine - no need for drilling or gluing.

I'm sure the balloon is the safest option - I always used mine straight to my mouth. The nail blocks the flow somewhat - you can exercise some level of control over flow by winding the nail in and out of the bulb...
 
Just an update, I went back to bunnings and got the next epoxy glue up. Put it on last night and the guy in the store said 24 hours to dry. I'll probably give it double that though if not more. If this one doesn't work I will opt for the real expensive one but what you guys reckon the likelihood of that is? The glue is Bostik brand "epoxy bond super strength" is this the shit I want? Thanks guys.
 
Just to make sure you know drug_mentor, using just glue WILL NOT WORK, at least in the mid to long run. Use some string, it works.
 
Fuck me that goddamn glue gave out straight away aswell! This is fucking retarded. I gave the shit 3 days to dry wtf. Ima give a go making ayjay's one with no fucking bullshit glue. I am so annoyed by the end of this I will have spent so much money on making this damn thing I could have just bought a cream whipper in the first place.
 
Edit get the top of/f a syphon and attach a balloon to it?

Edit- No sources. lil angel15
 
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drug_mentor said:
Fuck me that goddamn glue gave out straight away aswell! This is fucking retarded. I gave the shit 3 days to dry wtf. Ima give a go making ayjay's one with no fucking bullshit glue. I am so annoyed by the end of this I will have spent so much money on making this damn thing I could have just bought a cream whipper in the first place.
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I am sorry that epoxy did not work for you, allthough with the nanger i had, it worked fine and lasted a very long time. Mabey youre A/B ratios were wrong .... epoxy is a fucker to work with in small amounts, and to completely mix the two compounds is a different thing all togeather.
 
harvey said:
I am sorry that epoxy did not work for you, allthough with the nanger i had, it worked fine and lasted a very long time. Mabey youre A/B ratios were wrong .... epoxy is a fucker to work with in small amounts, and to completely mix the two compounds is a different thing all togeather.
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Possibly a breakthrough in why this shit isn't working, I just mixed epoxy parts A and B 50/50 is this wrong? I asked someone who I thought might be knowledgable on the subject as I am clueless with hands on bullshit. They said just mix the 2 so I mixed em as close to 50/50 as I could eyeball, is this wrong? Is there an alternative easier to use adhesive that works as well as epoxy?

This is really starting to do my fucking head in. I have gotten it to work using an alternative method but it is wasteful. Not to mention by the time I've gotten it working the total bill will be close to that of a cream whipper straight out a homewear store, well not quite, but close enough if I'd have known I'd have just bought the fucking thing ya no.

"You can fix the nail using 2 m-m connectors and a f-f connector, and a T piece instead of an elbow. If the nail has a large flat head, you can trap it between the 2 m-m inside the f-f. Wrap the nail head in plumbers tape too."
Ayjay, could you please elaborate on your method? Maybe I''m retarded but I just can't picture this, but, a glueless bulberator is starting to sound promising since this fuckin glue wont hold.

Cheers for all the help/advice so far guys, and please bear with me, I just wanna hit bulbs like yall. lol
 
I have a spare cracker doing nothing (moved on the a cream whipper "bong"), if anyone wants to know more feel free to pm.

I can take pics if you wish to design something off it, Uses welds only but the looks of things
 
Mr Blonde said:
Downloading the instructions now. I need a new one, my current whipped cream maker is starting to leak when you first start to use the gas, but then seems to seal up again a few uses into a session.

ETA: Nice, thanks for that Mr. White! ;)
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That happens to mine from time to time and I just pull it apart and give it all a really good clean andf its good for another hundred or so. Plus its important to clean that yuck out..........its amazing how much black goo gets in there over time.
 
Kandeman said:
such a pity that the picture in this thread don't exist anymore

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=54033

twas a two cracker bulberator with a weather balloon that held 100+ bulbs *sigh*
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Eventually i want to build that beast.
Heres a quick drawing of what i think it would look like. Any suggestions to add to this bulbing station? Ideally i'd want to have a metal pressure vessel instead of the balloon but i'm not sure on how to go about building a safe one.

nangka1.jpg
 
looking a few pages back i'm impressed with the engineering your skills Mr White, does the cracker a page back have a control of the flow of the gas?, or is it simply a flow thru design.
 
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