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Splinterguitar69

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So this doesn't exactly pertain to me, but my parents. To make an obnoxiously long story short, they went through a VERY bad divorce, ended up getting back together, and as they were deciding to maybe split again, my mom became pregnant with my little sister. (Who is 1 now, so don't worry, mommy aint prego) This puts them in a very straining position, and has gotten to the point where their arguing will have my mom come down and ask me to take the baby to a friend's house because things could get out of hand. They don'y physically harm one another, or throw things or anything like that. They just fight. And bad. Now I worry about their well being as well as my baby sister being psychologically functional as an adult because of my parent's lack of ability to keep it together

Since this situation is becoming increasingly bad and dire, I feel like I should do anything and everything I can to help. Not just for me, or even my baby sister. Mostly for their own happiness. I want to introduce them to the idea of MDMA-assisted therapy where they would have the house to themselves, they can take it, and take a stab at solving their problems. I don't want to push anything on them or make them do anything I don't want to do. I just wish to suggest it. They are the Richard Nixon "Pro Drug War" parents even though my mom is cool with me smoking pot.

How would I even bring something like this up? I fear judgement and making the problem worse by bringing it up, but at the same time I need to do everything I can for them because they are my parents and I obviously love them.

Any suggestions?

PS they are both perfectly healthy. No anti depressants, medications or anything like that. They are at no more risk of a reaction than you and I. I have a connection to VERY pure molly also, so no worries there. This is just a very awkward thing to talk to your folks about, ya know?
 
Wow what an interesting idea. Drugging your parents to get them back together hahaha I've never heard anything like this! Somehow I don't think they would take you seriously enough to try it. They might even get mad at you for suggesting that you bring drugs into their home. Having a baby in the situation would only fuel their argument.

I'm sorry that your parents split, but it's something that they have to work out themselves. You're not alone, though, I'd love for my parents to get back together... Unfortunately it's just something you have to accept and get over. If you have any other siblings (that are closer to your age) you can really bond with them at this time and get through it together.
 
My partner and I split up some years ago.
I realized I'd been stupid and we got back together again.
Taking mdma together was very therapeutic.
But do you know why they fight?
 
I'm not gonna say you absolutely shouldn't suggest it, but you should tread carefully. It seems as though you are probably a minor living under their care, and bringing drugs up could cause even more problems. It also really depends on what the root of their problem is. If you feel one of them would be more open to it than the other, perhaps you could try to bring it up to them alone. Just do so honestly and let them know it's out of concern and just something to think about. MDMA could be a great tool, but it's by no means an instant cure for their relationship. Whether or not it yields any results is going to depend on what the root of their problem is, and whether or not they completely invest themselves in making it work. Sometimes things just don't work out though, and you may just have to accept it(my parents seperated when I was young).
 
Before ecstasy was outlawed in 1985. Shrinks were prescribing it for therapy. The US military I believe currently is using on a trial basis prescribing it for PTSD. I also saw on Nat Geo a documentary about ecstasy and how couples that had major issues in their relationship were using it and how it help them open up about their relationship and problems with one another. It might be worth a try. Look it up, not making any of this up.

Do a search... PTSD ecstasy in google and you will find numerous articles on it.
 
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Yeah I understand the idea of trying not to force it... it's just my contribution to assisting in solving the problem, I guess. As I said before too, if they DID take the idea seriously, I was thinking about taking the baby sister along with my other 3 siblings to a pumpkin patch or go to haunted houses for the day while my parents privately (and secretly) did their thing back at the house. I'm well aware of the benefits of MDMA assisted therapy. I just don't know how to bring it up to them. I was thinking about finding a news journal or something and just putting it under my mom's pillow with a note saying "Please don't get mad, just a suggestion" or something and let them talk amongst themselves.

@augustaB It's a very long story. They divorced 7 years ago when my dad had a midlife crisis and starting doing blow and eating Xanax, he fucked her best friend, all types of crazy shit you'd expect from a 17 year old. A couple of years later my dad had the realization that he'll never be 17 again and straightened his shit out but now there's two problems: The damage has been done and he now has a cocaine addiction. They decided to get back together (My mom probably ONLY did it because of his job. Thered be no way she could support a family on her own) but never remarried so if something were to happen it'd be an easy split. They were doing good for a little while, then my dad's coke habit started getting in the way again and just as my mom said she was fed up she found out she was pregnant. They decided to stick it out until the baby was old enough to understand why her parents split, but they are both running out of patience and FAST. It's all going pretty down hill. Now they are stuck with each other for the sake of the baby and it's just all fucked up right now. There's obviously some VERY deep seeded issues they are very unlikely to work out on their own, because they have both been so mad for so long they just can't be civil when they try and talk. That's why I think MDMA assisted therapy is the best shot. After an old girlfriend of mine had a fatal heroin overdose a few years ago I couldn't even stand to be around myself for not catching her problem in time or being able to do anything about it (She kept her habit hidden...and very well). My first experience with MDMA was my best friend taking it with me, sitting me down, and asking me to talk about it. That was easily the #1 most significant experience of my life and since that day I've had such a better outlook on the situation and life in general. I only wish my parents to have that same weight lifting experience. It's something I know FIRST HAND works AMAZINGLY, so I have the most confidence in this method of therapy...

Sorry for the essay... but ya asked lol

Oh... and @ heh!? -I'm 22 and currently enrolling in school for psychology and sociology specializing in substance abuse and mental illness. I have SOME credibility in the idea
 
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To me, it sounds like your father would be the only one willing to try it, and for the wrong reasons. Your mother, she might be too jaded by the idea, since your father's past of abusing drugs.

If you still want to try and bring it up, be cautious and just say it's an option, and it's definitely not a cure.

But honestly, I think mom and dad need to split up for everyones sake. :(
 
Yeah I understand the idea of trying not to force it... it's just my contribution to assisting in solving the problem, I guess. As I said before too, if they DID take the idea seriously, I was thinking about taking the baby sister along with my other 3 siblings to a pumpkin patch or go to haunted houses for the day while my parents privately (and secretly) did their thing back at the house. I'm well aware of the benefits of MDMA assisted therapy. I just don't know how to bring it up to them. I was thinking about finding a news journal or something and just putting it under my mom's pillow with a note saying "Please don't get mad, just a suggestion" or something and let them talk amongst themselves.

@augustaB It's a very long story. They divorced 7 years ago when my dad had a midlife crisis and starting doing blow and eating Xanax, he fucked her best friend, all types of crazy shit you'd expect from a 17 year old. A couple of years later my dad had the realization that he'll never be 17 again and straightened his shit out but now there's two problems: The damage has been done and he now has a cocaine addiction. They decided to get back together (My mom probably ONLY did it because of his job. Thered be no way she could support a family on her own) but never remarried so if something were to happen it'd be an easy split. They were doing good for a little while, then my dad's coke habit started getting in the way again and just as my mom said she was fed up she found out she was pregnant. They decided to stick it out until the baby was old enough to understand why her parents split, but they are both running out of patience and FAST. It's all going pretty down hill. Now they are stuck with each other for the sake of the baby and it's just all fucked up right now. There's obviously some VERY deep seeded issues they are very unlikely to work out on their own, because they have both been so mad for so long they just can't be civil when they try and talk. That's why I think MDMA assisted therapy is the best shot. After an old girlfriend of mine had a fatal heroin overdose a few years ago I couldn't even stand to be around myself for not catching her problem in time or being able to do anything about it (She kept her habit hidden...and very well). My first experience with MDMA was my best friend taking it with me, sitting me down, and asking me to talk about it. That was easily the #1 most significant experience of my life and since that day I've had such a better outlook on the situation and life in general. I only wish my parents to have that same weight lifting experience. It's something I know FIRST HAND works AMAZINGLY, so I have the most confidence in this method of therapy...

Sorry for the essay... but ya asked lol

Oh... and @ heh!? -I'm 22 and currently enrolling in school for psychology and sociology specializing in substance abuse and mental illness. I have SOME credibility in the idea


My assumption that you were a minor was made from the standpoint that you seemed concerned about their reaction to you using drugs, which is a valid concern regardless of your age, but I trust you see where I was coming from. After I re-read your post it seemed as though you were too well spoken to be all that young. The fact that you aren't a minor makes more confident that it might not be a bad idea. There was an article on Oprah's website a while back regarding MDMA that was a great read. Perhaps you could find that and leave it for them or one of them to read. If drug abuse is a problem your father has, this is even more reason to tread carefully as said above.
 
My assumption that you were a minor was made from the standpoint that you seemed concerned about their reaction to you using drugs, which is a valid concern regardless of your age, but I trust you see where I was coming from. After I re-read your post it seemed as though you were too well spoken to be all that young. The fact that you aren't a minor makes more confident that it might not be a bad idea. There was an article on Oprah's website a while back regarding MDMA that was a great read. Perhaps you could find that and leave it for them or one of them to read. If drug abuse is a problem your father has, this is even more reason to tread carefully as said above.

Oh no hard feelings with the assumption lol. Don't get me wrong there. I DO live at home though, which I might as well be a minor because of the "My roof my rules" thing which is understandable.

I really like that Oprah thing though. I read it a few days after it came out and it actually made me tear up because I know how much MDMA had helped me with my past issues. As well as a friend of min who's father died last year. This molecule is wonderful! I just wish everyone else though so, too. Even if it should only be available for prescription...
 
Dear SplinterG

Sounds like quite a set of problems there. It sounds if dad has some serious issues to deal with. Mom is hanging in there but struggling, also because of the past.
It sounds to me a bit like Dad needs to straighten himself out, and deal with whatever it is that is eating at him. He needs to see things in a different light and feel some kind of remorse before doing mdma with mom. The mdma could work as a healer and helping him to face his issues, but then he would perhaps need to be in a more therapeutic situation.
No other advice on this really. Sorry bud. Good luck.
 
print out an article about relationship-assisted therapy, have them both read it, and ask them what they think about it. it needs to come from a credible source. if you just walk up to them and say "hey try this!" they won't go for it. MDMA saved my parents marriage. they would almost certainly be divorced if they didn't discover it. they even introduced me to it and it has brought me closer to both of them.
 
print out an article about relationship-assisted therapy, have them both read it, and ask them what they think about it. it needs to come from a credible source. if you just walk up to them and say "hey try this!" they won't go for it. MDMA saved my parents marriage. they would almost certainly be divorced if they didn't discover it. they even introduced me to it and it has brought me closer to both of them.

That's pretty awesome. It's not getting my hopes up any more or less but it's totally possible for my folks to have the same result. This kind of story happens more often than a lot of people would think
 
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