alantis360
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please avoid this combo , just take more dex..
"Counter-flip"
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LSDMDMA&8684806 said:
It's funny that it works out that way, since the original etymology of "candyflip" went the other way around; "candy" = MDMA and good vibes and shit, "flip" = flip the hell out on acid. But then when the name "hippyflip" stuck for shrooms+MDMA, I guess it just got flipped around.
I see what you did there
Back in the good old days we used DMH/DPH to fight dxm-induced nausea. Like adding 50mg of DMH/DPH to kill it. When you do too much DMH/DPH, the danger of blacking out and doing unpredictable things is increased significantly. The DMH also seems to eleminate some of the ataxia caused by the DXM. We had a lot of trouble with people 'trip-walking' when being overdosed on DXM/DMH. But so far, noone died. Highest dose a friend took was 600mg DXM + 600mg of DMH. He was jumping around being unable to talk and recognize his environment for about 6 hours. Fortunately he did not manage to leave the room. 
Edit: Here in germany, we call this the 'zombie combie'.
Edit: Here in germany, we call this the 'zombie combie'.
No offense but can we please ban the coining of new 'flip' terms for combo's?
And I agree it sounds awful and potentially harmful. As in: reasonable chance.
If you cannot resist keep your dosages of both lower, really lower.
And I agree it sounds awful and potentially harmful. As in: reasonable chance.
If you cannot resist keep your dosages of both lower, really lower.
Bardeaux
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Agreed.
Its just as arbitrary and confusing as names like Meow-Meow and Benzo Fury for singular compounds.
SpiceHead
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I've done it - one of the BEST downer combos I've done so far :D
Keep your doses low - I only did a 1st or 2nd-plateau amount of DXM, with 80 mg of diph. They seemed to increase each other's effects by a lot.
I ended up just chilling and not moving a muscle (as diph would have you do), and the DXM made me have some pretty nice CEV's. Time has almost no meaning, you are just in a spacey, "in your own world" kind of state. Definitely worth it, OP.
EDIT: It might have lasted 3 hours.....? Complete shot in the dark here.
also, "counter-flip".. cool name haha
Keep your doses low - I only did a 1st or 2nd-plateau amount of DXM, with 80 mg of diph. They seemed to increase each other's effects by a lot.
I ended up just chilling and not moving a muscle (as diph would have you do), and the DXM made me have some pretty nice CEV's. Time has almost no meaning, you are just in a spacey, "in your own world" kind of state. Definitely worth it, OP.
EDIT: It might have lasted 3 hours.....? Complete shot in the dark here.
also, "counter-flip".. cool name haha
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PsychedelicPeptide
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Counter-Flip is an awesome name.
It works great in phrases like:
"Counter-Flipping is almost the dumbest shit you can do. The dumbest shit you can do is a Grocery-Flip (Nutmeg + DXM + DPH)."
That's no offense to anyone though. Years ago when I was in high school I did one variation of the Front-Back-Counter-Flip (Vicodin + DPH).
It works great in phrases like:
"Counter-Flipping is almost the dumbest shit you can do. The dumbest shit you can do is a Grocery-Flip (Nutmeg + DXM + DPH)."
That's no offense to anyone though. Years ago when I was in high school I did one variation of the Front-Back-Counter-Flip (Vicodin + DPH).
Jesusgreen
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^ As old as this thread is, and as old as this post by Solipsis is, it still rings true.
All your African Spoon Zebra Band-Aid flips are confusing me.
I'm surprised you guys know so little about the combo. It's a favorite on 420chan. I've never heard of anyone dying on it or experiencing serious side effects (delirium excluded). I know this thread is from 2010 but I'm just gonna throw this up for anyone that reads it and is curious:
THIS COMBO IS NOT SUITABLE FOR THE INEXPERIENCED IN ANY WAYS. Honestly, I don't recommend anyone fuck with DPH, it is toxic to both the brain and heart and can cause all sorts of awful issues such as heart arrhythmia (short term), extreme memory loss, anxiety and HPPD. The HPPD and anxiety can last months or years.
I've never done the combo myself but I've talked to enough people who've done it and read reports from those who enjoyed it. The draw of the combo is that they are both metabolized by the same liver enzyme and thus they potentiate eachother. In theory the DXM body high (should) cancel out the DPH bodyload while the DPH visuals should manifest with far less fear-filled delirium due to already being high on the DXM. The result is less relaxed than DXM, but with strong OEVs and a light but (hopefully) pleasant delirium. The usual recommendation is 300 mg of each. While this will certainly get you fucked up the DPH apparently overpowers the DXM at these doses and the experienced suggest keeping DPH at half DXM, or at least 200-300 mg below it. for the more experienced 300 mg DPH to 500-600 mg DXM would be very intense but also very rewarding. On the lower end 200 DPH to 400 DXM should provide all the desirable components of the high. 100-150 DPH+300 DXM would probably be a safe bet, but it might not be enough DPH to get clear open eye hallucinations. It would still potentiate the DXM a great deal though.
Take the combo at your own risk.
THIS COMBO IS NOT SUITABLE FOR THE INEXPERIENCED IN ANY WAYS. Honestly, I don't recommend anyone fuck with DPH, it is toxic to both the brain and heart and can cause all sorts of awful issues such as heart arrhythmia (short term), extreme memory loss, anxiety and HPPD. The HPPD and anxiety can last months or years.
I've never done the combo myself but I've talked to enough people who've done it and read reports from those who enjoyed it. The draw of the combo is that they are both metabolized by the same liver enzyme and thus they potentiate eachother. In theory the DXM body high (should) cancel out the DPH bodyload while the DPH visuals should manifest with far less fear-filled delirium due to already being high on the DXM. The result is less relaxed than DXM, but with strong OEVs and a light but (hopefully) pleasant delirium. The usual recommendation is 300 mg of each. While this will certainly get you fucked up the DPH apparently overpowers the DXM at these doses and the experienced suggest keeping DPH at half DXM, or at least 200-300 mg below it. for the more experienced 300 mg DPH to 500-600 mg DXM would be very intense but also very rewarding. On the lower end 200 DPH to 400 DXM should provide all the desirable components of the high. 100-150 DPH+300 DXM would probably be a safe bet, but it might not be enough DPH to get clear open eye hallucinations. It would still potentiate the DXM a great deal though.
Take the combo at your own risk.
jackie jones
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Ah, high dose dph...
Akin to isolating the occasional "did that happen/is this happening" of a traditional psychedelic trip and repeating it every three minutes.
dxm does have some qualities (recalling hidden memories; lucid dream-esque sequences), yet the impairing of motor skills can be quite lame.
Sounds like a fucking unbearable combination, imo.
and I completely agree with Solipsis on the improper use of the term "flipping" in this thread.
Akin to isolating the occasional "did that happen/is this happening" of a traditional psychedelic trip and repeating it every three minutes.
dxm does have some qualities (recalling hidden memories; lucid dream-esque sequences), yet the impairing of motor skills can be quite lame.
Sounds like a fucking unbearable combination, imo.
and I completely agree with Solipsis on the improper use of the term "flipping" in this thread.
shady4091
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I don't see what's wrong with someone using a new term. Every new term came from somewhere and I highly doubt it's going to get picked up and used often and it's not like he didn't clarify what it was he was actually taking. As a simple topic title it works well, I rather like the term "Counter-Flip", has a nice ring to it. That said, I think it's a pretty lousy idea. But I don't like the effects of either of them on their own, so that's just me.
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