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Kaneh Bosm

Kaneh Bosm

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Here is a thread I have decided to make after overhearing people unable to present compelling arguments in defense of cannabis law reform or related cannabis topics. I will also encourage you to add or critique. This should be a seperate thread than the FAQ because of new studies, new myths and I am presenting arguments not just information. Hope this goes well
 
Damn it, I wrote 5 paragraphs on the potency argument and my PC fucked up and it is all fucking gone!
 
Higher potency:Quick answer, yes potency has increased but not as much as prohibitionists make it out to be. Higher potency also does not pose a higher threat and in fact makes cannabis safer since quantity has reduced.

Prohibitionists claim that the cannabis of the 60s and 70s had THC averages of 1-3%. Non-pychoactive hemp has THC averages of 0.5-1%. They calim that todays cannabis can reach THC levels of 40-50%! So 50% of the plant material is THC, so do bricks of hash grow off the branches? Well this is obvious fear mongering to quelch the legalization effort by those who may have used the plant in the 60s.

The reason there was such low THC ratings could be attributed to bad farming and harvesting techniques since little was know then about where and how THC is produced in the plant. A collection of stems, seeds and leaves with loose bud would be packed into bricks which pops THC resin glands and causes THC to evaporate into the air and would be the product sold in the 60s. It was sold by the ounce since you would need to smoke several joints to reach a level below what you could get with 4-5 tokes.

This leads to how a higher potency means a safer smoke. Like I said earlier cannabis was smoked and sold in larger quantities because of the low potency. Today a person can reach their peak in several tokes instead of several joints. It is sold in grams and portions of an ounce and used in smaller portions than 40 years ago.

Also people of the 60s and 70s did have access to what I will call high potency seedless bud that matched if not succeeded the potency of today. Yes the high potency seedless bud is more accessable today but it did exist then and may have been even more potent then todays. Why? Because of extinction of a strain or it is a strain that is only able to grow in a certain climate.

Also a user of cannabis can determine between a high potency product and a lower potency product using nearly all 5 senses much like an alcohol consumer can determine high potency alcohol from lower potency alcohol. But unlike alcohol regardless of potency, cannabis is non-toxic and will not result in a overdose.

Conclusion: Although potency has increased it has not rose from such a low level to such an exaggerated high level. But regardless, THC is non-toxic and will not result in a lethal dose or drug overdose.
 
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Higher potency cannabis has a higher ration of cbd to thc which makes you sketch out less than low potency cannabis which has a much much lower ration of cbd to thc and you sketch out more because of this.
 
"Pot kills braincells" (duh, it has to! How else could it be psychoactive?) would be the most common myth I hear.
 
Cannabis use can cause cancer/carcinogen and tar content:We have all heard that cannabis has more tar and carinogens than tobacco. Just like the potency statistics, they rely completely on what is seized which makes it unreliable data. What is reliable data is the fact that all smoked plant material contains tar and carcinogenic exhasts as well as carbon monoxide. Yet study after study has failed to link cannabis use with an increased cancer risk when tobacco use is controlled.

The reason for this is THC and CBDs anti-oxidant, and anti-carinogenic qualities. THC and CBD have been proven to reduce the size of cancerous tumors and kill canerous cells without effecting healthy tissue in both lab animals and human subjects. [Note: Smoked cannabis will not cure cancer, yet there have been shocked physicians who noticed that the tumor that once showed up on an x-ray of their pacient's lung had disappeared after the pacient started using cannabis through a vaporizor.]

That brings me to the vaporizor option. A vaporizor completely mitigates the harms of smoking by providing a method of cannaboid delivery without combustion. It works by heating up the active ingredients, or cannaboid to a temperature lower than combustion temperture. The user gets no tar, carcinogens, or carbon monoxide when using a high quality vaporizor properly.

For those who are tight on cash or would rather spend money on herb than devices to smoke herb, (although a good vap. could start at 150) you could always consume cannabis through digestion. Through the use of tinctures, teas and the good old pot browies.
 
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hmmm i like this idea

but be careful with you, your could potentially shoot yourself in the foot


dont fuck it up
 
There are over 5,000 different chemicals that make up your favorite smoke. Unfortunately, the THC is the only one needed to get high.

Marinol is a good drug, it introduces THC into your body without having to smoke. Smoke is something every single person on earth is allergic to, that is the part that causes harm to your body.

I smoke as many joints as I can during the day. I can't stand to be straight and face life. A life I really dislike.

Imagine living your life in a constant severe intractable chronic pain that is a level 5 or 6 at best.

I see no reason that would validate making weed illegal. It serves such a valid purpose in my life, calming me and giving me an overall feeling of well being.
 
Vivian said:
Higher potency cannabis has a higher ration of cbd to thc which makes you sketch out less than low potency cannabis which has a much much lower ration of cbd to thc and you sketch out more because of this.
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That totally makes sense. The first real 'paranoia' phase ive ever had was when i switched suppliers(had to) to lower quality bud.
 
FlamingSeveredHead said:
Imagine living your life in a constant severe intractable chronic pain that is a level 5 or 6 at best.
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just go to your doc and try to get some oc's
oh wait, he wont write u the script cause the drug czars are paranoid about opiate abuse

sucks for you. :\
 
cannabis 420 said:
just go to your doc and try to get some oc's
oh wait, he wont write u the script cause the drug czars are paranoid about opiate abuse

sucks for you. :\
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Yeah, it seems in this day and age, if you dont have a problem its easy to get opiates precribed and all sorts of other goodies, but if you have a genuine need for them your called a lier or refused them because they are like you said paranoid about opiate abuse :p
 
Cannabis is so addictive there are thousands in treatment for it.Too bad a third of them have not even used cannabis in the last month. Huh, how could that be?? According to US Department of Health and Human Services, one third of those in drug treatment have not used cannabis in the month prior to admission. The reason is that over half of those in treatment for cannabis dependence are there because a judge gave them a court order due to violations of prohibition! The government gets to have it's pie and eat it as well with these bogus statistics.
 
^^I remember hearing that the #1 drug for rehab was pot.

In fact is it not cannabis... it's alocohol!!!!!!!

Also, I doubt that most of the people in rehab for pot are actually "weed addicts."

As said, most of them were forced to go there, and since lots and lots of people smoke pot, lots and lots of people get caught and forced into rehab.

I duno.
hefi;jdalf
 
Kaneh Bosm said:
Cannabis is so addictive there are thousands in treatment for it.Too bad a third of them have not even used cannabis in the last month. Huh, how could that be?? According to US Department of Health and Human Services, one third of those in drug treatment have not used cannabis in the month prior to admission. The reason is that over half of those in treatment for cannabis dependence are there because a judge gave them a court order due to violations of prohibition! The government gets to have it's pie and eat it as well with these bogus statistics.
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Hell, I'd even guess they inflate the statistic even more:

I wouldn't be surprised if they also ask everyone entering rehab what drugs they have used recently. A guy going in for heroin addiction cops to enjoying the odd joint now and again, and we have another "marijuana-related" rehab admission.

Anyone know anything about this? I'm just guessing, but from what I know about the Drug Czar/War on Drugs, I'd be surprised if they WEREN'T doing this.
 
Marijuana kills braincellsThere is no evidence that the use of marijuana kills brain cells, destroy grey matter or cause any permanent damage to the brain. That is expected since cannaboids are not neurotoxic. The only experiment that did show evidence of brain damage in monkeys involved monkeys being tied down with gas masks on their faces forcing them to breath the equivalent of 50+ joints. Obviously it was prolonged carbon monoxide exposure and loss of oxygen to the brain that caused the brain damage and not the cannaboids in cannabis. Unfortunatly although this junk science was debunked and discredited even by the scientist himself, politicians and prohibitionists sight this study as if it is fact.

On the flip side, there is evidence that minors that consume cannabis during the period of great physiological development do exhibit an IQ drop. Other than that ADULTS who use cannabis will not suffer permant brain damage or brain cell loss etc. (Which is a good reason to legalize and regulate the sale and consumption for adults.)
 
With regards to the higher potency aspect:

I think it's ridiculous that the anti-cannabis people try and make an argument out of this. So the potency over the years has increased, so what? Do we see high concentrations of alcohol being ridiculed and demonized? Of course not. It's just double standard bullshit.
 
Marijuana promotes Neurogenesis... it does the exact opposite of killing brain cells.
I feel that the reason marijuana will not be legalized is because they don't even want alcohol or tobacco legal, that's why they give it Sin Taxes (That was the original intent of Sin Taxes for alcohol and tobacco). But of course we aren't the puritan society we once were, so maybe our government's greed will take over and see the profit-potential in taxing marijuana.

Hey FlamingSeveredHead, just use a Vaporizer, marinol is shit, smoke is bad too but i want all those cannabinoids that marinol lacks so vape vape vape!

P.S. FlamingSeveredHead, once you come to the realization (or perhaps actualization) of what marijuana can do for you both mentally and physically (I mean that positively) you may appreciate it, love it, and think life in a more appealing perspective. But that's just my 10 cents.
 
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