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Could you tell the difference between an rc and mdma?

Thank you for the replies, sorry to bring this from the dead but I just remembered I asked it.

To those of you saying it depends what RC blah blah blah, I think methylone (BK-MDMA) was the chemical I was speaking of (and if I remember was in the original title, obviously you can tell the difference between 2ci and MDMA......LSDMDMA&AMP your response was particularly disheartening, splitting hairs, bk-mdma, mdxx, get my thread title name changed and confuse the next three posters, makin me look all ignorant and ish. Now that ive addressed the negative portion of the crowd.

Thank you for the responses, lot of mixed oppinions as I expected, seems like an experienced MDMA user with access to both MDMA and BK-MDMA could in fact tell the difference easily. But to people who do not use MDMA often (like me, dose dependant say 300 mg bk-mdma to 100 mg mdma) could not tell the difference. BK-MDMA seems to be the best although still lacking substitute for MDMA, and considering where I live pills contain hardly any MDMA content and a ton of meth (like substance, could be mdpv 4fa etc etc) I think that BK-MDMA is what I will use to roll on, untill I get access to some high quality verified molly. If Shulgin says he can tell the difference Ill take that as the word of authority.....Damn though it felt just like I remember real mdma to feel. (no I have no way of knowing the mdma I took the first time was "real" but it was in the 90s so I feel confident.)

mad props to you folk who really can tell the difference, thats like being able to feel the difference between oxy and hydro, you certainly can do it, but you gotta be pretty familliar with both and sharp with your senses
 
The difference between E and other analogues (or RC empathogens) would essentially be like trying to tell LSD from DOI.. Yes the differences are there but the question is: How well can you recognize how that drug felt right before you try BK-MDMA etc...

More common users would pick up on it faster than others, but if your memory is hazy it is possible to be fooled by it's cousins.
 
Having a range of different chemicals I can easily tell the differenc between MDMA, MDA, MDEA, bk-MDMA and any other RC.

I find MDA has me having blurry vision, tingles down my arms and I feel I can run for hours.
MDEA I feel smacks me out really hard, like I just wanna get lost in my own world.
MDMA has a magic feel to it, nothing can replicate the feelings of MDMA, I find that bk-MDMA has similar feelings just not as full on as MDMA, or as on your face. Also not and mind fucking as MDMA.
 
kroniic, cool man thats good for you, so your a conessiour (sp) of empathogens of sorts, do you find a pretty high cross tolerance or can you say take mdma one day and roll one bk-mdma/mdai or w/e the next day.

Not that you woudl neccesarily want to do this but I find it a curiousity none the less, I know with opiates theres a pretty high cross tolerance obviously, but still incomplete enough to tell when you use something new after a coiuple months that its stronger than it should be considering your tolerance to the substance your use to.

and kroniic, in your opinion is the closest substitute to mdma bk-mdma or mephedrone or something other.....also its apparent you have access to high quality/verified mdma, I however dont, If you were in my position would you hypothetically (Future crimes are always hypothetical) buy E pills and hope for the best because mdma is that much better than methylone, even though its hit and miss when you hit it will be that much better....or would you bank on the sure and not illegal thing with methylone.

excuse the ramble Im somewhat ignorant in the empathogen world.
 
smokeymcpot42088 said:
kroniic, cool man thats good for you, so your a conessiour (sp) of empathogens of sorts, do you find a pretty high cross tolerance or can you say take mdma one day and roll one bk-mdma/mdai or w/e the next day.

Not that you woudl neccesarily want to do this but I find it a curiousity none the less, I know with opiates theres a pretty high cross tolerance obviously, but still incomplete enough to tell when you use something new after a coiuple months that its stronger than it should be considering your tolerance to the substance your use to.

and kroniic, in your opinion is the closest substitute to mdma bk-mdma or mephedrone or something other.....also its apparent you have access to high quality/verified mdma, I however dont, If you were in my position would you hypothetically (Future crimes are always hypothetical) buy E pills and hope for the best because mdma is that much better than methylone, even though its hit and miss when you hit it will be that much better....or would you bank on the sure and not illegal thing with methylone.

excuse the ramble Im somewhat ignorant in the empathogen world.
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Hey man, as with any stimulant there is a cross tolerance between MDMA & the named RC's as they both effect serotonin, norepinephrine and dopamine. So taking a day apart is not recommended. I found bk-MDMA the closest thing to MDMA, not as full on in your face, you can sit down and socialise without being brain dead as MDMA. Alex Shulgin (the father of MDMA) stated that bk-MDMA is about the third the strength of MDMA, so I can assume 300mg of bk-MDMA would be very similar to 100mg of MDMA, but just does not provide the same magic as MDMA.

As for your hypothetical "suggestion" I would personally build up a relationship with a dealer, invest in a test kit, and hope for the best. Even ask around for Molly. If you can't get it well bk-MDMA is your next best thing. I've had nights out on M1, and it really is a nice RC, mixed with a couple of drinks.

Hope I answered your questions dude.

Cheers,

kroniic..
 
Experienced users can definitely tell the difference between MDMA and a cheap substitute.
 
Yes. RC's like Methcathinone have no warm gut sensations. Just... Energy and a lack of anxiety. I remember taking a pretty large dose of it, thinking it was just molly cut to hell and back. Only to realize everyone else was having the same experience.

However, the more MDMA you use, the less you can tell between RC's because of tolerance.
 
i've never really tried mephedrone (only once sold as speed, but only a low dose and it just made my heart go crazy), but i guess i could distinguish mdma from methylone easily. methylone's quicker onset of 20-30 minutes gives it away immediately (as well as the overall duration). the effects are also substatially different (with methylone i'd have a clear head, be much more focused, could dance more coordinated while mdma even at lower doses has a depth and completeness to it that methylone simply hasn't). but the surest way to tell them apart for me would be the comedown/days after, which would be pleasant with good sleep after mdma and horrible with a racing heart and insomnia with methylone.

i wouldn't say it's not like comparing two similar opiates, but rather like comparing amphetamine to ephedrine.
 
tbh i dont think mephedrone and mdma is very similar.

the few times ive had clean pills (ans lets be honest clean pills really are a thing of the past) its been so unique. nothing compares to it at all.

mephedrone is very nice too. its energetic, sociable, a bit trippy if the doses are large enough, but it really doesnt have that "magic" that everyone talkes about when it comes to E.
 
To clarify, anyone that has taken real MDMA before can tell the difference between that and something that isn't MDMA. Although it'd be next to impossible to guess based on how you're feeling to say "Oh, this isn't MDMA, it's _______"
Ya dig?
 
Dug. I'd say the only thing I could be able to for sure tell is in a pill that isn't MDMA would be MDA due to the "trippy" feel to it and the extended direction. Dig that?
 
Yea, but the thing about MDA is that it's so god damn hard to find that it wouldn't be sold as MDMA.
But yes, you're right, you'd be able to tell the difference between MDA and MDMA if the test was presented before you.
 
I'm talking about in pills. MDA is definitely not around as much (the bowling balls are always MDA but that's about it). I feel like a couple of years ago there were MDA pills all over the place. Definitely my favorite to have a MDMA/MDA combo tab.
 
love mollys plant food..ive tried 20-30 different rolls..everyone else rolled..but i didnt...same with shrooms no effect..but mollys plant food ...yes...but i prefer an ambien trip
 
absolutely. methylone and mdma have an entirely different mindstate and euphoria IMO, radically different even. i'd say the methylone vs mdma experience is as different as mde vs mdma. not to compare methylone to mde b/c i like methylone much more than mde, it's just that they are so very different than mdma. i can tell the difference between mda and mdma very easily and those 2 are much more similar to one another than mde or methylone which don't feel much at all like mda or mdma. huge difference between mda and mdma as well but a lot of the sensations are similar, just that mda is more intense, tactile and rough around the edges.

mde has a physical buzz all of its own as does methylone, same goes for the mental state.
 
I think I could tell, it depends on what I am thinking. MDMA is very slow to come up and subtle, all of a sudden I am thirsty and I can talk about anything. Its hard though, for instance I bought some 4acodmt and I tried it, and I thought it was bunk shit and just 2CE cut with brown stuff. Only after I snorted it and saw that it turned blue was I convinced this was a different chemical.
 
o hellz yea i can tell if shes the real thing as soon as it starts to kick in. The RCs have no discernible peak that mdmx does, no empathy etc.....methylone and what not is just a body high that wishes it was mdma. thats all i ever find anymore and i cant stand it.
 
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