Could cannabis be a cognitive psychedelic?

[Mootoo]

What if the conceptual difference between THC etc. and most traditional psychedelics is that the former has cognitive effects - memory being the most obviously affected, awareness and such altered - and the latter mostly 'sensual' (relating to the external senses)?

This, I realize, can't be as simplistic, as psychedelics alter internal sensations too - still, is there anything that cannabis does that psychs don't, or is it simply like a miniature version of the effects?

(When I first experienced it I made the error of thinking that I was going to notice something external, something as obvious as the trippy descriptions of LSD - ultimately, there is something to observe in the external world while high, I think, but it is mostly cognitive.)

 

[Quantum Perception]

I think dose is a huge factor. Small amount of shrooms feels mundane versus a lot of hash eaten. So it could be more about dose then the substance itself having to be in a hierarchy of effects (e.g. cannabis under LSD).

 

[nekointheclouds]

What if the conceptual difference between THC etc. and most traditional psychedelics is that the former has cognitive effects - memory being the most obviously affected, awareness and such altered - and the latter mostly 'sensual' (relating to the external senses)?

This, I realize, can't be as simplistic, as psychedelics alter internal sensations too - still, is there anything that cannabis does that psychs don't, or is it simply like a miniature version of the effects?

(When I first experienced it I made the error of thinking that I was going to notice something external, something as obvious as the trippy descriptions of LSD - ultimately, there is something to observe in the external world while high, I think, but it is mostly cognitive.)

I think you misunderstand what cognition means and how cognitive effects work if you say that psychs have effects only on the external senses. The definition of Cognition is 1. the act or process of knowing; perception. 2. the product of such a process; something thus known, perceived, etc.

psyches have such cognitive effects that we actually start to perceive things that are not there or feelings and emotions get intensified. This can mean that our tactile senses become enhanced or altered depending on the strength of the psych.

But to answer your question there is no conceptual difference between Cannabis and "traditional psychedelics" its just that traditional ones are usually much stronger and can have much greater side effects on the brain, many of which can be negative. So traditional psyches are generally more respected and used far far less than cannabis.

This lack of negative side affects on the brain is the reason people are able to consume it regularly and drive up tolerance to the point those more intense perception changes like visuals and such are just a memory of my young stoner days which were well over 10 years ago. But cannabis can cause some extreme psychadelic effects for sure.

In fact here is a little blurb about it from the PD(Psychedelic Drugs) discussion area on bluelight:

"Two drugs that some consider to be psychedelics - Cannabis and MDMA (a.k.a. Ecstasy) - have their own dedicated focus forums. Questions that are specifically about one of those drugs should go there. However, enactogen "research chemicals" such as methylone and 5-APB are discussed here in PD, while synthetic cannabinoids are not. If you have any questions about where a specific drug should be discussed, send a private message to a moderator."

 

[rollies]

I think if you look at how THC works, and compare it with how LSD works, you will realize the problems with your theory.

sorry, i'm a bit too fried atm to give a working example >_<

 

[Black Rabbit of Inle]

For those that have tried honey oil (or other THC extractions), has anyone else noticed that it's much more comparable to a very weak dose of LSD? Is THC the only psychoactive chemical in weed and do the other chemicals create the 'stoned' feelings?