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Controlling your HPPD

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iChelsea

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Does anyone else notice fractals everywhere?

Instead of an actual visual disturbance, it is more of my brain recognizing a pattern or design.

And the weird part is, I can turn it on and off. All I have to do is stare at the fractals for a second and look at it and think about how its just a normal object and the pattern isn't really there, and it goes back to normal. But if I focus on seeing the patterns they will return.

Has anyone else had experience controlling , or even trying to control their HPPD?

I have been trying to use it on my visual snow, and i already notice it has been helping a bit.
 
Yeah, it's fun sometimes hey? Seeing shit in the walls

as long as it doesn't freak you out, sometimes that tends to happen
 
you may be tuning in to subtle vibrations around you, or quantum positioning patterns...there really is an energetic pattern in which things are connected. matter is and is not in different places based on universal harmonic patterns. or at least that's my understanding and take on relating quantum virtual particle patterning with larger level experience...i guess you can take the same idea onto the dimension of dark matter..being matter which is solid beyond all solidity we know, and the web where dark matter lies, is where what we view as solid is placed...ie the patters of galaxies and clusters. i guess i can say things wind up where higher dimensional (or higher energy) stature allows (or grants)...

lol, i'm no physics expert, but i have read things through the years which help me to explain the way i see the world.

when i'm in an open perceptual state, be it through psychedelic trance, or simple meditations i can see the mandalic patterns which connect all things. and like you said, if i tune into the objects for their material value, i instead notice the physical forms and am not 'tuning in' to the energy patterns.

the other geometic visualization i notice is to me a visual representation of the intellectual processes of the subconscious mind...the dance of the patterns evolving is correlative, for myself, to the expansion of my neuropatterns and the growth of my understanding. and no better picture can be painted to represent this undulating growth process than an ever-evolving mandala...as we grow our understanding evolves into furtherly intricate and furthely awe-inspiring forms. for me these forms can be 'formless' if i go about my life and don't meditate, however when i relax my mind and focus i can see my body working...sometimes this presents itself as visualization of bodily process, sometimes it's a visual representation of cognitive process...kind of like a daydream without symbols...just raw geometic matrix code :D

from my own experience i believe that there is much much much much more information and stimulus going into our being than is represented in our 'mundane daily view of the world'. i think psychedelics can open people up to processing different stimulus, or also likely they can open people up to processing More stimulus in a given amount of time...i think distraction or 'disorder' comes from this 'tuning in' only if the person is unable to logically process and assimilate the stimulus into something usable.

for myself, there have been times through the years that the sensitivity i have to people emotions and the amount of stimulus that i process in a given moment has been burdensome and overwhelming...but overall i am grateful for the elaboracy which i see even in a wall...i find lesson in such....even in mundane occurance the universe's dance is no less intricate/powerful.

practice meditation if you feel overwhelmed...learn to access your own 'true view' of reality without psychedelics...that way you can accurately decipher what is enhanced sensory experience or simply daydreaming delusions...for the psychedelic experience is the viewing of one's own energy as well as the enrgies around ones self. when you have delusions within yourself, you see delusions....when you are absolutely centered and clear there is the white light of true experience, which goes beyond mind, beyond emotion and encompasses the entire self.

8o a lot of words i know...sorry if i'm rambling, or if it's too hocus pocusey...it's intense and generall wordy to try and linguistically bridge the gap between psychological perceptual experience and existential reality experience....

hope this gives a little reassurance in the least...if i could only show you what i see....lol, much more than fractals...shamanic trance is something which i feel isn't mean to be explained here now. just know that there's very powerful things to view around one's self which are as solid, and even more solid (from my own subjective experience of touching dimensions :D) than what we tend to think is 'all there is'

best of journies friend, if you are interested in more information about what i've learned regarding energy patterns and the like pm me... :D
 
^ And have you registered only to quote sekio? :)

To OP, what do you mean by "controlling"? I just don't care about my HPPD-like state, and even enjoy it sometimes. I don't see how it is possible for me to make it more/less pronounced.
 
I've just learned to accept it. I almost can see aura's around people and objects. I often see a lot of patterns in trees mostly. And as for the visual snow, it's annoying but I just look past it and forget about it most of the time. During the winter it's kind of hell though cause it's everywhere in the bright snow.
 
When my HPPD was in full blossom i'm fairly certain I also had PTSD from the trip even though it wasn't a bad trip. So no I couldn't control it and it was scary as fuck, I didn't know what was happening to me because the PTSD was causing all sorts of intense physical manifestations. So I think if I just had the visuals it may have been different. I was freaked out to say the least. It mostly has all calmed down now even though I continue to use psyches. I LOVE the huge tracers I still see all the time though, especially when I get stoned.
 
Until the last two times I have taken LSD, I had a deep, creeping feeling that HPPD was just noticing hallucinations/visual tricks that are present in daily life, but are now noticed because you recognize them. The time before I last dosed LSD, I kept noticing the patterning for a couple of days after but just mentally wrote it off, and avoided psychs for two months or so. Went away quicker than that, after just a couple of days, but it was a heavy trip and I got what I needed out of tripping for awhile. Just this last weekend, took 8 fairly decent blotters, having finally had the opportunity to push LSDs dosage a bit.

I am still getting patterning, and some of them flow. At first it alarmed me, so far its nice. It is an entirely visual effect, I wonder if it has more to do with overstimulation of the visual-cortex than anything psychological?

OP, I don't really know what you mean by 'control'. Make it come and go? Smoking weed makes it more prominent (or I think so because I am high), and I am relatively sure that not taking drugs for awhile would be the best way to diminish them. Otherwise, not sure what you're looking for, 'fraid.
 
When i see the fractals, I'm not actually having a positive hallucination (like in schizophrenia, there are negative and positive symptoms), I'm just noticing things that were already there in a different way. I notice the similarity of the smaller pieces to the whole, like these http://www.miqel.com/fractals_math_patterns/visual-math-natural-fractals.html

To turn it off, I just focus on the actual details of the object, the physical exact object as it is. To notice the fractals, I just notice on the pieces and their relation to each other.


It doesn't alarm me. It entertains me. I like them. I am going to get a fractal tattoo now haha.
 
SpinOutOfControl said:
When my HPPD was in full blossom i'm fairly certain I also had PTSD from the trip even though it wasn't a bad trip. So no I couldn't control it and it was scary as fuck, I didn't know what was happening to me because the PTSD was causing all sorts of intense physical manifestations. So I think if I just had the visuals it may have been different. I was freaked out to say the least. It mostly has all calmed down now even though I continue to use psyches. I LOVE the huge tracers I still see all the time though, especially when I get stoned.
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hmm sounds like exactly what I'm going through. I've had the hppd (moving patterns on surfaces) for a while. But my last trip which wasnt necesarily bad, but rather anxious, has left me with lasting effects that have been going on for about a month. Physical sensations in my head and neck that feel like I'm on the drug. My thought processes are normal, yet my brain still has the acid buzz feeling goin on inside. Its gotten a lot better , but thats mostly because I have come to grips with it. I hope to return to eating psychedelics again soon.
 
I don't think I have HPPD, I'm able to process more than I was before. I've always seen mild visual snow on monochrome surfaces, especially white walls. But now, I can stare at white walls and see very light patterns. They're not really geometric, just more soft and squishy looking. (Can't really think of a word for blob-like :/ )
I don't think it's a disorder whatsoever, in my case at least. The only annoying thing is that I now see floaters.
I can half-way control mine, if I concentrate I can see more patterns.
 
I think "HPPD" is widely misdiagnosed. I don't think what I, or my three other friends that have it, is HPPD. I think psychs just have a tendancy to produce lasting visual artifacts in a lot of people.
 
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