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Contact High

Ximot

Ximot

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Hi folks

I would like anyone out there to share their experiences with "straight" people who appeared to get a (subconscious) contact high when spending time with you when you were high.

I have had this experience a number of times, most notable on a medium dose of 4-HO-MIPT when i went to a gig and I got into talking with someone who seemed to open up more and more during our chat and who seemd to seek me out a bit, to prompt me to talk more... I have also had this experience, repeatedly, on Methylone: people are just friendlier to me and get into all sorts of 'personal' talk with me, about things that preoccupy them, etc.

I am not asking for any sort of explanation (it's obvious to me - I am open and more approachable than usual, more chilled perhaps, more forgiving, more knowledgeable, I have access to a wisdom that may otherwise be somewhat clouded, and less judgmental, etc.) - I would just like to read about experiences people might like to share their stories - substance, circumstances, and all that :)

peace
all
 
like you said approachability is key. I also noticed this with various substances, and wondered why it didnt always work. first I thought it was just the drugs' unpredicability, then i realized it was not the substances themselves and I looked into it and approachability is everything.
 
I have had this experience a number of times, most notable on a medium dose of 4-HO-MIPT when i went to a gig and I got into talking with someone who seemed to open up more and more during our chat and who seemd to seek me out a bit, to prompt me to talk more... I have also had this experience, repeatedly, on Methylone: people are just friendlier to me and get into all sorts of 'personal' talk with me, about things that preoccupy them, etc.
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You sure this isn't just because you're on drugs that alter your perception, and hence you're perception of the conversation changes?
 
^^ Yeah, my conversations always seem like 5 times more memorable and deep when I'm on psychedelics... (and subsequently many serious conversations can seem absurd)
 
Contact high is a very real phenomenon. I notice it most from mushrooms. I've been in situations where I'm the only one present who is on shrooms, and yet everyone else is talking in circles, being goofy, laughing at silly shit, and proclaiming loudly, "What the fuck, I feel like I'm fucked up!"

There have even been times where it seemed that everyone around me was "stealing" the trip from me, from my aura, and I would feel sober, like I wasn't even tripping anymore, and I would be kind of upset, like, "Damn, these fucks are getting a free trip.. I'm getting gypped!"

I also want to say, as much as I hate the drug, 2c-i caused a much stronger contact high than anything else I've ever done. It always caused my sober friends around me to straight up freak out and ask me what I was on because it was affecting them too.

Oh yeah, and acid causes them too, quite frequently, but it seems like more of a feeling, than an outright intoxication. I remember walking into a party one time, and as soon as I walked in it felt "thick" in there, and I said, "It feels like acid in here," which caused all the trippers to burst out laughing at me because they all were, in fact, tripping.
 
I've given people contact highs twice. My girlfriend's never tripped before and didn't know I was, but she's very experienced with cannabis and kratom. One day I was on about hour 10 of a strong DOC trip, well after the peak but still while I was hallucinating and very much in the mindstate, she suddenly began talking about how she felt really intense all of a sudden and was seeing morphing on the carpet. Carefully I asked her to describe it, and she described basically the same visuals I was getting from the carpet. I didn't ever tell her but I definitely filed it away. This kind of thing also happened with us while I was on 2C-I once, in essentially the same way.

Another time I was at a moderately-sized party at my girlfriend's school, on 12mg of 2C-I. I was tripping harder than I'd intended and was feeling a little bit strange and self-conscious, because none of these people at the party really had any idea about tripping. Also, most were high school students. Anyway, as the night wore on it became apparent that I was sharing my vibe with everyone. Everyone became very aware of the social vibes that were passing all around, and this was a bunch of young, socially awkward arts students. It was obvious that they were all a bit confused and definitely uncomfortable at times. And then a friend of mine who didn't know I was tripping but who has had plenty of LSD and mushrooms before asked me "who brought the acid?" and told me he felt like he was tripping.

It seems to be the most pronounced with 2C-I. And remember, Shulgin experienced it with 2C-I as well. It's mentioned in PIHkaL
 
I once tripped on 2C-I with four other friends, and we all dosed at different times. I was first, and the others followed about twenty minutes apart each. Even when I knew that I was down to baseline, I could still feel the trip from just being with the others.
 
yeah makes sence, after all people often pick up on other peoples moods, if your suffering an intence experience i would expect it to "radiate" more strongly...

i wanna try that now... freeload of someone elses trip ;)
 
so everyone was lying...aw :(

you know just because it is probably all psychosematic doesn't stop it existing
 
How? If my experience of life is altered when I'm around other people tripping, how are you going to tell me it doesn't exist?
 
It's my opinion don't get defensive.You need to actually take a drug to feel it.
 
nuke said:
^^ Yeah, my conversations always seem like 5 times more memorable and deep when I'm on psychedelics... (and subsequently many serious conversations can seem absurd)
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This one time my friend Mikey and I were tripping and we were in his basement throwing glow in the dark stars at each other like it was a war in the future (they were big ones and could break the skin on a direct hit)

Anyway it was really cool because of the trails from 2ci+2ce. I dont remember the exact dosage schedule, but I think we dropped 20mg 2ci, then took 2c-e in 5mg increments every time we didnt feel high enough till we had taken 15mg 2ce. I'm not sure tho.

Anyway the stars would have multiple trails that would follow like some of the animations in that old 64 game paper mario. The usual stuff, and although it was totally awesome and they lasted forever, I'm pretty sure that you can always see those trails if you stare hard enough. What made it cool was when enough of the 2ce had kicked in there would be completely false stars that would pop off the trails, it was like the star was thrown, landed, the first trail would start, little stars would pop off that trail like sparks thrown from a fourth of july sparkler, (though much fewer in number) then the next trail would start, and the cycle would repeat 2-3 times.

Anyway we got some girls over, who didn't even drink at the time (we were young and in highschool) and we continued to throw the stars in a less vicious game with them, and they started commenting on the trails they would leave behind, then they started saying "woah the trails are repeating" and then eventually saying "man they are getting even wierder" which I took to mean they were seeing the sparkles.

The whole time we were just laughing outrageously and trying to seduce them, never mentioning a single thing about the trails. The way I see it is that tripping is pretty much just a particular, wierd mood, and as such it can be infectious like any mood. Also, I was tripping really hard and can't really trust my memories of those times. Another piece of evidence against this is how dumb I felt mentioning it when sober. I was gonna ask Mikey if he rememberd that and though it was wierd, and when I asked him we both just clammed up and felt like retards. He said yeah tho.
 
As Hypnic JerK is saying, moods can be infectious. Vibes from people can be felt. As such, I see no reason why aspects of a trip couldn't be transferred to others as well. Well, aside from that, I've had it happen.
 
^^ My cats always react very weirdly to my tripping. Especially on DOC, and really especially on ketamine when I've become pure consciousness. It freaks the shit out of them.
 
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