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Conspiracy Theories (“Alternative Research”)

It's annoying, huh? When you can see something that's painfully obvious but you are then labelled a conspiracy theorist?

BTW I just explained it. Either I was mistaken, or you are a conspiracy theorist.
 
Given recent reports on the Trump administration’s plan to create a new government agency to use “advanced technology” to identify “neurobehavioral signs” of “someone headed toward a violent explosive act” using data collected by consumer electronic devices, the picture painted by the technology currently being promoted and implemented under the guise of “keeping Americans safe” is deeply Orwellian. In fact, it points directly to the genesis of a far-reaching surveillance state far more extensive than anything yet seen in American history and it is being jointly developed by individuals connected to both American and Israeli intelligence.

 
Hi, this thread appeared at the top of my page for some reason. I just want to say that I reject the term "conspiracy theory" as it is a loaded pejorative designed as shaming language for anyone who questions the official narrative. It's dishonest and incorrect no matter if the phase is interpreted literally or colloquially. For that reason, I consider anyone using "conspiracy theory/theorist" with a straight face below my intelligence and not worth my time.

If you wanna start the conversation off by implying that I'm psychotic if I don't believe the government's obvious lies then it's a waste of everyone's time.

Thank you. My 2 cents.
 
Inds is correct and what I've attempted to explain for a very long time to deaf ears.
 
I titled the thread. ?

Good for you. My whole point is that if a discussion is to be started right off the bat by insulting the opposing side, then a discussion isn't anyone's intention. And believe me, if shit-talking is the objective then I guarantee I can do that way better than anyone on here. But don't start a topic off with an insult and then pretend you wanna have a civilized discussion. I guarantee you'll be the ones crying victim if I reciprocated and started dismissing you all as ass-kissing sheep and retarded village idiots who love having the government's cock rammed down your throats.

"Conspiracy theorist" right away shuts down discussion because you dismiss your opponent as psychotic. You're free to do as you want, but remember that your opponents can do that too.
 
Well, first of all I was trying to respond in a light-hearted way to your dismissal of anyone who doesn’t think like you. I guess I didn’t do it intelligently enough for you? ?

And after the tantrum you just threw, I’d prefer you consider me not worth your time and move on to your next victim. Scorn me, please.

Seriously, you seem to have some anger issues, and there are other places on BL to address them. Hopefully you are or will take advantage of them.
 
i'm sorry but that position is already filled by jgrimez :)

alasdair

Translation: "this place is mostly a liberal echo chamber. We reserve our right to mock alternative researchers and will call you a conspiracy theorist as we see fit."
 
Oh that's awesome.. "alternative researchers". Is that what you want instead of being called conspiracy theorists?

I am totally on board with changing this to the alternative research 2019 thread. :)
 
Hahaha. Nicely done.

I just love it because "alternative research', 9 times out of ten, is just listening to some asshole on YouTube.

I suppose that IS alternative research.
 
Oh that's awesome.. "alternative researchers". Is that what you want instead of being called conspiracy theorists?

Well tbh "we" are just people who don't trust what governments say, based on their track records of deception and lies.

Which is actually an intelligent stance to take, but for some reason those people are ridiculed and labeled "conspiracy theorists". Go figure . (Stay in your lane. Don't make me question my worldview)

Nice job on the thread title change, but "conspiracy theories" should be in quotation marks.
 
I just love it because "alternative research', 9 times out of ten, is just listening to some asshole on YouTube.

lol I like how your knowledge comes from some listening to some asshole on the mainstream media.

There's a reason why those "asshole youtubers" are getting censored - it's because many are telling the truth, becoming incredibly popular and undercutting the revenue from MSM.
 
What makes you think I listen to mainstream media in any serious way?

You've outright stated how much YouTube you watch, not to mention how much of it you link, so that doesn't seem disputable.

But your suggestion of what I watch seems to be nothing more than an assumption.

And no, if you simply didn't trust the official story, that'd be fine and I wouldn't find it so absurd. The problem is like pretty much every conspiracy theorist I've met, you outright propose an alternative version of events that repeatedly sounds absurd and with no good standards of evidence.

That is not the same as distrusting the official version, that's distrusting the official version while trusting some completely absurd version. It's that second part that is the cause of my low opinion of conspiracy theorists.
 
What makes you think I listen to mainstream media in any serious way?
Where else are you getting your information from? It's either the mainstream media, more independent/"alternative" sources or you're an investigative journalist yourself (ha).

You've outright stated how much YouTube you watch, not to mention how much of it you link, so that doesn't seem disputable.
No, what's disputable is how you frame "youtube". You realize that literally anyone can upload anything. So you're dismissing potentially a massive trove of legitimate and truthful information simply because it's not presented in a way that makes you feel like it's authoritative info - and where would that be from for you? The TV? The MSM? I can (and often do) watch lectures by professors and documentaries interviewing experts. But to you that doesn't matter it's just "youtube" full of crackpots and looneytunes. The simplistic thinking is staggering. God Forbid one could actually use their discernment and have to sift through stuff to find accurate information.

But your suggestion of what I watch seems to be nothing more than an assumption.
Informed people often make accurate assumptions. People also give a lot of information away via the opinions they espouse.
It's also really lame (Ali does this a lot). He'll say "well that's just your assumption" instead of just actually giving out the accurate information that shows why my assumption is wrong. It's a way of sneakily attempting to disprove what I say without actually conceding that it isn't true. "It seems you're assuming....." Yeah OK but is the assumption correct or not? (sorry for rant).

And no, if you simply didn't trust the official story, that'd be fine and I wouldn't find it so absurd. The problem is like pretty much every conspiracy theorist I've met, you outright propose an alternative version of events that repeatedly sounds absurd and with no good standards of evidence.
See you're not getting it. Multiple people have explained to you how labeling people with that term is an automatic insult and attempted character assassination therefore not conversing from a place of good faith. How many conspiracy theorists have you met and how confident are you comparing them exactly to all of the people that are getting information from Youtube and disagree with you? If you think all of my ideas are crazy and none of the alternative explanations make sense to you then you should probably ignore me coz you're never going to get it. I'm not stupid and I do my own research. And if we're going to generalize and group people like that then you seem like the typical person that attacks others for presenting potential truths that make them feel uncomfortable.

That is not the same as distrusting the official version, that's distrusting the official version while trusting some completely absurd version. It's that second part that is the cause of my low opinion of conspiracy theorists.
lol just because you personally would consider something "absurd" doesn't make it untrue. What I find absurd is how many lies you simply just buy and how sure of yourself you are to be arguing certain things so definitively without doing the requisite research (and thinking). Often you seem like running a script for eg I've heard a thousand times about the group conspiracy theorist friends that you used to hang out with and roll your eyes around to when they started discussing stuff that the mainstream media tells you not to listen to. And of course I'm exactly the same as them

*eyeroll*
 
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