Connection Between Psychedelics and a Higher Power(of ones understanding)

[Phoenix_rising]

What is real and what is not? What does real mean? What do words mean? We constantly try to catch the essence of exsistence to understand it,the old conundrum,why are we here?

Higher power and psychedelics,are psychedelics resposible for this age old question of a higher power.Once we were like the animals and now we are not,i think therefore i am,reveloution of evolution.

Is it because we ingested a psychedelic in the hunt for food that pandoras box sprang open? Did this act propel us in a direction of such ingenuity and creativity that we splintered off from the more instinctual nature of the beast to become masters of our own destiny? We stepped out of the cycle of nature to create our own reality,our own meanings of ourselves.

Even without psychedelics there is something very different about man from the beasts,are we aliens?

I tell ya what though,you can drive yourself fucking mad with all this shit,life in itself is a trip,when you take psychedelics your tripping in the trip that is life,when we die i`m sure we will realise this and it shall all become very clear,it`s all part of the trip,the best part of the trip.

What is real and what is not? What does real mean? What are words?

 

[enlighteningmyself]

DMT Spiritual Experience and Recovery

Sublimit:

I am an alcoholic and an addict attending AA meetings. Smoking DMT is what drove me to these meetings (I was guided into recovery by a spiritual experience). I have had several spiritual experiences on DMT. The ultimate loss of ego and connection with a higher power is evident when I experience DMT. I find myself without the protection of my ego. I feel I look into my subconscious. Hard to explain. I have not tried it since I have been in recovery (which admittedly has only been a month, but I have not had a hard time at all, which is very strange). I struggle with the concept of a higher power, but have been open minded and willing to look. I too am thinking of using DMT to get in touch with a higher power to further my recovery....I truly believe it will work. I assign great meaning to my experiences with DMT. I am glad someone else is on the same wavelength as me. I will let you know how it works for me.

Hi Lighters, I'm just wondering if anyone has had any spiritual experience from psychedelics thats led to a connection to "God", or a God of ones understanding, even to believe in a power greater than us... I'm interested to know how many people have made a connection like that through the use of psychedelics.

I'll explain why i've been thinking about this a lot. Firstly, my spiritual side was awoken when i first started to use psychedelics over 4 years ago. I've seen some seemingly impossible things on sub breakthrough doses of DMT, things that made me truly realise how powerful the human brain is. Not even a supercomputer could process some of the things you can see. But some of the more spiritual moments have come obviously with breakthrough doses and experiencing ego death... or just simply death and nothing else lol, but surprisingly some of the most significant moments for me have come with smaller doses and OEV's where you can see nature in a whole new perspective and be able to feel your surroundings. A spontaneous decision for the 3 of us to smoke DMT in the area that we had previously harvested an acacia longifolia or golden wattle and replanted some that several were growing when we went back a few years later to check it out. We all knew that we just had to smoke some... after all it was the same DMT that was taken from the very ground we were standing on years earlier. It was a profound moment that i'll never forget, being surrounded by a dozen tiny and big longifolia's and it seemingly turning to night within the onset, well that was when I felt one with the earth and where my spiritual side really took off.

It continued with other things but most predominately with LSD. I had never really done a proper MAOI/DMT. After some big doses of LSD i'd stay sober(off Addictions) for months... It made me take a real good look at myself and have had some divine moments of truth on acid. Acid has had the advantage of a prolonged psychedelic experience over DMT and i've felt like those epic trips i've had... one was spent in a cemetery in Carlton which was when i first felt in touch with God. I mean it's crazy to think we jumped the fence at a cemetery at 3am, but we both felt compelled to do it... once we got in there, my friend who was reluctant to jump at first, said to me "ummm to you mind if we see where this goes for a while"

As you can see i would like to write more about those times, but i should get to what i'm trying to say. I'm a recovering H addict, and have been going to NA meetings recently and have been clean. they talk about how important it is to have a higher power, and although i have talked to God before... it was the wrong God... I'm not an atheist or anything but i'm done asking him for strength. I haven't done psychedelics for a year and a half because i haven't been in the right place, but i know i have unfinished business with them, and ever since going to these meetings i've had an idea about a higher power based on my use of psychedelics. I feel in touch with my spiritual side, as in the appreciations of the subtle things in life, and i have vivid entity's that i can identify with, but what i really didn't get at the time was using psychedelics as the sole purpose of finding a higher power, an energy so profound that i can speak to it.

Now that i'm aware of the importance of this i'm willing to try and use psychedelics as a tool to forge this power that i know is greater than me into a mechanism against my addiction and for me to become a better person. I will try this because I believe it will work. ,,,, especially solo tripping. Psychedelic drugs have been the only drugs that have benefited me in the long run. I don't really consider them to be drugs... and sorry about the flash backs, but just shows where i'm at.....

would love to here anybody's thoughts, experiences and even discussions on different interpretations of God... this is probably a spun out thread, but hey. thats what i love about BL