Confusing benzos?

[Op8N8]

It seems to me that I can take high doses if alprazolam and feel somewhat stupid and fucked up but my thinking is still somewhat clear besides the whole loss of inhibitions thing. Now with clonazepam and lorazepam I can take equal (or even weaker) doses and get a sort of confused mind feeling where I almost instantly forget things and forget where I've placed things. Just an all around dumbed down, confused state. Has this happened to anyone else? If so does anyone have any idea why certain benzos feel more confusing at certain doses? Could it be that those benzos have a different ratio of properties, a if so what property would be behind the confusing aspect?

 

[Rybee]

The property behind such effect would be 'Retrograde Amnesia'. Lorazepam's amnesiac properties have been well established by users & abusers as well as anaesthetists who often use it in a pre-operative or clinical capacity, as well as Midazolam. Just Google 'Lorazepam Amnesia' or 'Benzodiazepine Amnesia' and you'll get millions of hits. I changed back from Lorazepam to Diazepam because I found it to wreak havoc on my cognitive processing and memory.

Obviously the most notorious one would be Flunitrazepam (Rohypnol) which is often used as a date-rape drug because of it's amnesiac properties.

 

[pally pete]

IME all Benzos are confusing/amnestic.

I may have tried 20 different Benzos (That's not a boast btw) I'm quite appalled with myself, but I've used and abused Benzos heavily for the past 5 Years.

Actually for me Clonazepam and Lorazepam were 2 of the weaker/subtle feeling Benzos. They didn't deliver that punch in the face that Alprazolam did when I first started using.

 

[MrRoot]

Even benzos were not created equal and have different profiles and you cant comparison them by just saying 10mg of putiniuzepam equals 1mg of alprazolam.

That should give you some insight on the different profiles each of the common benzos have.
Angstlösend= Anxiolytic. Rest of the words should be quite obvious.

As you can notice diazepam is the jack of all trades and alprazolam actually only has anxiolytic effects and tetrazepam does not have nearly any anxiolytic effects and if one would want to have same anxiolytic effect out of terazepam he would have to take atleast five times more tetrazepam than benzo equivalency chart would say which would cause him to lose control of his muscles.

 

[Rybee]

if one would want to have same anxiolytic effect out of terazepam he would have to take atleast five times more tetrazepam than benzo equivalency chart would say which would cause him to lose control of his muscles.

huh?

 

[MrRoot]

This is because tetrazepam has about 1/6 to 1/5 of anxiolytic properties of alprazolam but has roughly ten times more muscle relaxant properties than alprazolam.

Since 100mg tetrazepam equals 1mg alprazolam on most equivalency charts you would actually need 500mg tetrazepam to get same anxiolytic effect than from 1mg alprazolam. Although with that amount you would got 50 times more muscle relaxant effects when compared to alprazolam.

My point was that all benzos are different so simple equivalency chart wont work.