confused about ez-tester

[zoomzoomss]

i am confused, i have a ez-tester extreme and i need to be educated

marquis test turns purple black = xtc like substance now if it turns any other colour or no reaction means no xtc like substance or speed etc

so how can a test go purple black as it should in marquis test but give an undesirable result in simons or rodadope test

for example
marquis =purple black, simons - = no change rodadope = no change

doesnt this result in the simons test contradict the marquis result ?

i know of marquis tests ( and most people only do this test ) to be purple black but fail in the simons or rodadope test..i do not understand

your help would be greatly appreciated..thank you all

 

[easy e]

All testers can be fooled, and there are substances such as mbdb that will not give a reaction with simons and robadope, but will go purple black with marquis.
since your results show no presence of a secundary amine ,, nor a primary amine, I have no idea as to what is in your pill.
as a general guideline: any atypical reaction should be viewed as conspicious. Try another pill.

 

[zoomzoomss]

can you expalin what a secondary amine and primary amine is

and do they have to exist..thank you

 

[easy e]

terms as primary and secondary amine refer to the position on the molecule where nitrogen is attached, ie. last postion on the carbon chain and the second to last on the carbon chain. Without getting too technical: examples of secondary amines are: methamphetamine, mdMa, mdEa and PMMA. examples of primary amines are: mda, amphetamine and PMA.
If your test does not prove that either one of these categories is present in your pill: discard the pill, there is no way of telling what is inside. A DXM reaction can be mistaken for purple black with Marquis.

 

[Sleaze]

Where in Melbourne can i get a Simons or Robadope test kit. I have the EZ-Test kit, but would also like one of these secondary amine testers as well.

 

[easy e]

try: www.ez-test.com.au , he'll sort you out

 

[zoomzoomss]

so if i was to say the following would it be correct

marquis, purple black, simons blue, rodadope no change = good pill

marquis, purple black, simons blue, rodadope salmon = pill is a mixture of mdma or mdea along with mda, pma or speed but percentages of all unknown

marquis purple black, simons wrong or no colour change, rodadope salmon = pill no mdma or mdea, but has either mda, pma or speed

marquis test purple black, simons wrong or no color change, rodadope no color change = ??? unknown

is there any test to distinguish between is mda, speed or pma

thanks for your help

 

[easy e]

you are right about the reactions. telling the difference between mda, pma and speed can be done with EZ Test marquis or mandelin, but when the pill has a mixture of those substances in it you will not be able to the difference

 

[zoomzoomss]

i have seen reports from people who have tested a pill and they state the pill was mda

how would they come to this conclusion and rule out either pma or speed ?

also can pls you tell me what pmma is ?

thanks

 

[johnboy]

how would they come to this conclusion and rule out either pma or speed ?

Probably by their subjective experience, ie how it made them feel.

also can pls you tell me what pmma is ?

here's PMMA's entry in PIHKAL

In short it is a closely related drug to PMA. Not a lot is known about it's dangers as it is rarely seen.

 

[Sleaze]

try: www.ez-test.com.au , he'll sort you out

ez-test don't seem to have the Simons and Rodadope test kits?

 

[johnboy]

They do. They are the only people who make Robadope, AFAIK.

 

[Sleaze]

Hmm, I couldn't seem to find it on their website. I'll shoot 'em an email.

Thanks johnboy.