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Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v11

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I don’t want to live anymore honestly. Too much has changed for me and I don’t have the motivation to get better.

I wish a truck would just run me over or something. I wish suicide was easier
 
rawbanana said:
I don’t want to live anymore honestly. Too much has changed for me and I don’t have the motivation to get better.

I wish a truck would just run me over or something. I wish suicide was easier
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What happened man I thought you started feeling better, you can't stop hope now you're half way through recovery!
 
@starkid Healed.
Recovery Story
This is my reply to someone who PM'd me.

Hi [redacted], thanks for the message. FYI, I generally hate this website because of the way the admins run it (insecurely) and so I would encourage you to not depend on me as a resource. It would also be better for you to ask these questions in the invega sustenna public thread (if you haven't already); I will copy/paste my response to you into the public thread so that other people in similar situations can benefit from the answers.

I don't know what "xeplion" is, but I was given something called invega sustenna.

After about 10 months or so I started to notice the effects to noticeably wear off. After two years the effects were mostly gone.

I was also given anti-depressants because Invega made me suicidal (first Effexor, then Welbutrin in addition to Effexor). I am convinced that anti-depressants are pretty much just placebo in terms of fixing depression, but I mention it because they do mess with your head and do come with side effects.

As far as getting better, if you had only two shots well that's good news because that's exactly how many they gave me and I was able to recover.

My recommendations for getting better are:

1. Take time off to relax and do simple exercise like walking, biking, swimming. As much as you need. I took all of 2012 off.
2. Eat healthy. That means: avoid all fast food. Try going vegetarian. Eat plenty of vegetables. Explore foods you've never tried before at Whole Foods and see how they make you feel. Make sure to take Vitamin B Complex. Avoid all junk food.
3. Take care of yourself. Pamper yourself. If you want to watch things on YouTube for several hours then watch things on YouTube for several hours, or whatever else appeals to you.
4. Make sure you are surrounded by people who love you.
5. Try experimenting with nootropics, but make sure to do them right (common mistake for example is to take piracetam without proper amount of choline). If you decide to try this, do plenty of research first. I did take nootropics as a way of self-medicating after the imbecile "professionals" nearly killed me.
6. If you consider yourself intelligent, don't let people make you doubt yourself and become subservient to an imbecile psychiatrist. Those people are way over-valued in our society. Especially in some parts of the country, they think they know more than they actually do, and this arrogance and ignorance causes them to either kill or maim people. Pity them. Good psychiatrists do exist, but depending on where you are you may find it better to go to a General Practitioner.
7. Be patient. Force your perspective and interpretation to change so that you view the whole thing as a forced vacation.

Hope that helps!

Much love,
Starkid
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If you can't tell by the anger behind my words when I discuss this topic, yes, I have recovered my emotions.

Recovery takes time. It is a very gradual process. You can't monitor it by days, but by months, and just ignore the first 7 months (or more, depending on how much of the poison they gave you).

After 1 year, like I said, I started to believe I could recover. After 1 year I went back to university and finished my final year of university. I sometimes had to rely on large doses of stimulants (depending on the work load). I drank lots of Rockstars. Be careful with stimulants however. First recover, then if you need them, try them and monitor how they're making you feel. Excessive stimulant use can itself lead to major problems for some people. Remember, I also have ADD/ADHD, so for me stimulants are more important than for other people.

After 2 years I'd mostly recovered. My brain will never be the same as it was before, but in some odd way I do feel stronger for the experience. My contempt for crappy doctors is certainly larger too. And looking at this thread I see that something must be done to bring this problem to the wider public conscious. I encourage everyone to become evangelists and raise awareness of the problem (after you've recovered).

I am more sensitive to stimulants now, but not as sensitive as before Invega Sustenna. It's been about 3 years now. I am back to my original mental sharpness (or close to it) and I can feel emotions. As a somewhat positive side effect, I don't get anxious easily.

I understand and remember how dark it felt, how hopeless it felt, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Again, see my advice and think of it as a forced, long vacation.

Much love,
Starkid
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Hey how's everyone doing? Sorry you guys are going through this. Invega recovery was the first time I felt suffering in my life (proper suffering). I'm here to tell you that I've met many on this thread and on YT and forums, etc.. And most to all fully recover. Even those that don't go on to live their best or almost best lives.

If you are a schizophrenic I'd like to say if you quit invega you could have rebounding psychosis. So I'd recommend telling your psych doctor that you need a tolerable med rather than secretly quitting.

Thank you!!
 
Invegatorture said:
@paranoid android how long do you reckon it would have taken you to recover from abilify if you didn't take latuda?
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Much much faster. Latuda is a poison that gave me horrible akathisia. It took me awile to recognize it was akathisia as well. Even on latuda my sex drive started to come back after 3 of 4 months off the injections. But my attension span was the last thing to some back. Didnt come back fully until switched to zyprexa
 
Ammarishot said:
Hey how's everyone doing? Sorry you guys are going through this. Invega recovery was the first time I felt suffering in my life (proper suffering). I'm here to tell you that I've met many on this thread and on YT and forums, etc.. And most to all fully recover. Even those that don't go on to live their best or almost best lives.

If you are a schizophrenic I'd like to say if you quit invega you could have rebounding psychosis. So I'd recommend telling your psych doctor that you need a tolerable med rather than secretly quitting.

Thank you!!
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Thank you for your words of support man.
 
Anyone else taking hot baths/going to a sauna? I believe the increase in blood circulation and sweating aids detox. Also the heat maybe gets the drug released from the injection site faster.

My hot baths are between 39-43 degrees celcius. I stay in on average 20 mins. I would stay in longer but its hard with restlessness and anhedonia.
 
InvegaInferno said:
It's okay, these past two days I did feel a slight improvement in my mood and motivation after exercising but nothing that significant. I hope I keep moving forward and I don't derail after this slight change. What about you brother?
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Nothing significant for me either. My mood is much better but its because I am off injections now and I know every day there is less abilify in my body. Hardest part is the patience needed to recover from this i'm finding. My energy levels are better and I enjoy music more, but maybe thats due to the weight of my CTO being lifted. It was very tough mentally to deal with.
 
InvegaInferno said:
It's okay, these past two days I did feel a slight improvement in my mood and motivation after exercising but nothing that significant. I hope I keep moving forward and I don't derail after this slight change. What about you brother?
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Always keep moving forward bro. No matter how hard it gets. Because if you heal which is most likely life is heaven after. That was my experience anyway. To lose it all and get it back makes you so appreciative.
 
Invegatorture said:
Nothing significant for me either. My mood is much better but its because I am off injections now and I know every day there is less abilify in my body. Hardest part is the patience needed to recover from this i'm finding. My energy levels are better and I enjoy music more, but maybe thats due to the weight of my CTO being lifted. It was very tough mentally to deal with.
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Ive read someone's comment, similar to you they have recovered from invega then got injected with Abilify and also healed from that. Although im not sure of the amounts of injections he had; he did mention that Abilify is much better when it comes to recovery compared to invega and he also recovered faster. Do you feel any major difference between the both of them?
I get you I also struggle with patience even more when im left alone with my thoughts, try to surround yourself with others as much as possible or do anything to distract so you don't feel the passage of time its the only way.
Invegatorture said:
Always keep moving forward bro. No matter how hard it gets. Because if you heal which is most likely life is heaven after. That was my experience anyway. To lose it all and get it back makes you so appreciative.
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Will try brother, surviving as much as I can is the only way I can hold on.
 
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