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Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v11

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twinpeaks123 said:
what even is that? have you tried using genesight or equivalent check how much of the medication is left in your system
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They told me that I don’t have anymore drug left in my system but they dint show me the results, so basically i have to truste them. This exam was done around 1 month ago or so..
 
anonymoususer777 said:
Go through the comments people here write, there is no hell worse than invega.
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I do understand that.

I am collecting data with a view to passing it on to someone who IS in a position to obtain data (a senior psychiartist who is a friend).

But my own eduction means my first thought is if it is possible to speed up excretion of paliperidone palmitate.

It isn't that I am not looking into this, but it's not something I can solve in a day or even a week. I can only do my best.

For the record Johnson & Johnson paid out $ billions for mis-selling risperidone between 2002 and 2013. They are still the only producer of paliperidone (having won a court battle a few months ago to prevent generics being brought to market). So I am also looking into what happened then and what it happening now.

I am aware that many neuroleptics which were originally ONLY prescribed to treat psychosis have seen 'indication creep' so now they are OFFICIALLY prescribable for several disorders.

So that is what I am looking at. But give me time as this is a lot of work. I am happy to do the work but I need to ask specific questions to prove that the foundational logic is wrong.
 
twinpeaks123 said:
has anyone else here considering getting a job to let time pass?
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Getting a job helps. I still have some cognitive issues but I ended up still just recently getting a teaching job again(I was a teacher before Invega, just now getting back into it.) Working or having some comprehensive project is much better than sitting at home rotting away
 
twinpeaks123 said:
what even is that? have you tried using genesight or equivalent check how much of the medication is left in your system
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Genesight doesn’t show how much of a drug is left in your body. It shows which drugs your body is compatible with and which ones you aren’t
 
Trueart2 said:
Getting a job helps. I still have some cognitive issues but I ended up still just recently getting a teaching job again(I was a teacher before Invega, just now getting back into it.) Working or having some comprehensive project is much better than sitting at home rotting away
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are you uk based?
 
4DQSAR said:
I do understand that.

I am collecting data with a view to passing it on to someone who IS in a position to obtain data (a senior psychiartist who is a friend).

But my own eduction means my first thought is if it is possible to speed up excretion of paliperidone palmitate.

It isn't that I am not looking into this, but it's not something I can solve in a day or even a week. I can only do my best.

For the record Johnson & Johnson paid out $ billions for mis-selling risperidone between 2002 and 2013. They are still the only producer of paliperidone (having won a court battle a few months ago to prevent generics being brought to market). So I am also looking into what happened then and what it happening now.

I am aware that many neuroleptics which were originally ONLY prescribed to treat psychosis have seen 'indication creep' so now they are OFFICIALLY prescribable for several disorders.

So that is what I am looking at. But give me time as this is a lot of work. I am happy to do the work but I need to ask specific questions to prove that the foundational logic is wrong.
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Us, the ones' forced onto this drug are suffering and commiting suicide in silence. Psychiatrists either gas light us into believing that we always had these issues or ridicule us that we maybe having so many issues from the drug. They also insist that the drug will leave your body in 5 to 6 months. If you show no or little recovery even after years off the drug, they simply say that we always had all these issues and it could not be the drug as it has exited the body. There is a huge number of people who lose cognitive, creative, memory, ability to feel alcohol/ caffeine after the drug, psychiatrists simply brush off their concerns as delusions.

These people are commiting suicide and the cause of suicide is always made to look like their mental condition and not invega. The people suffering due to this drug have been completely silenced by tagging them as 'crazy' and their concerns are termed words of a crazy person. There is absolutely no one willing to help us.

There is absolutely no one also not telling us how this mind affects the mind and body. Athletes, runners lose their stamina and athletic ability after this drug, creative people lose their imagination and creativity, intellectuals lose their cognition, memory, healthy people lose their libido and sexual function....NO EXPLANATION AS THIS drug is forced on people without any research ....no one knows whatthis drug is doing in the body.
 
anonymoususer777 said:
Us, the ones' forced onto this drug are suffering and commiting suicide in silence. Psychiatrists either gas light us into believing that we always had these issues or ridicule us that we maybe having so many issues from the drug. They also insist that the drug will leave your body in 5 to 6 months. If you show no or little recovery even after years off the drug, they simply say that we always had all these issues and it could not be the drug as it has exited the body. There is a huge number of people who lose cognitive, creative, memory, ability to feel alcohol/ caffeine after the drug, psychiatrists simply brush off their concerns as delusions.

These people are commiting suicide and the cause of suicide is always made to look like their mental condition and not invega. The people suffering due to this drug have been completely silenced by tagging them as 'crazy' and their concerns are termed words of a crazy person. There is absolutely no one willing to help us.

There is absolutely no one also not telling us how this mind affects the mind and body. Athletes, runners lose their stamina and athletic ability after this drug, creative people lose their imagination and creativity, intellectuals lose their cognition, memory, healthy people lose their libido and sexual function....NO EXPLANATION AS THIS drug is forced on people without any research ....no one knows whatthis drug is doing in the body.
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I Will suicide if after 24 months by the last injection i’am not fully recovered or at least 90% recovered.

I’am 16 months after my last injection, i had basically zero improvement, i just developed tinnitus at 13 months.

Before i was completely normal and healthy, now i’am lobotomized.. Yesterday i saw a girl i dint see in the last 16 months, she don’t know what happened to me and she told me “you are serious and you lost your spark, you were always funny and enjoyable now you just starring at the void and don’t laugh anymore, don’t talk anymore, you are serious in a weird way”..
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
I Will suicide if after 24 months by the last injection i’am not fully recovered or at least 90% recovered.

I’am 16 months after my last injection, i had basically zero improvement, i just developed tinnitus at 13 months.

Before i was completely normal and healthy, now i’am lobotomized.. Yesterday i saw a girl i dint see in the last 16 months, she don’t know what happened to me and she told me “you are serious and you lost your spark, you were always funny and enjoyable now you just starring at the void and don’t laugh anymore, don’t talk anymore, you are serious in a weird way”..
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have you tried low dose abilify?
 
twinpeaks123 said:
have you tried low dose abilify?
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Blocking receptors is the cause of all my sympthoms so I don’t think by blocking receptors i can recover, since i was completely healty and psychiatry ruined me, i cannot find a cure inside psychiatry.

I cannot hope to heal from a poison snake that bite me by get biten from a different poison snake, if you understeand..
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
Blocking receptors is the cause of all my sympthoms so I don’t think by blocking receptors i can recover, since i was completely healty and psychiatry ruined me, i cannot find a cure inside psychiatry.

I cannot hope to heal from a poison snake that bite me by get biten from a different poison snake, if you understeand..
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fair enough
 
If people have recovered from this drug, why aren't more of them coming back on this forum to give us hope or tell us how they are doing? Do people lack empathy so much that they cant show some humanity to peoplewho suffered like them?
 
anonymoususer777 said:
If people have recovered from this drug, why aren't more of them coming back on this forum to give us hope or tell us how they are doing? Do people lack empathy so much that they cant show some humanity to peoplewho suffered like them?
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I think that maybe of they recovered it’s traumatizing for them just only to think about what they endured and how much time they lost and usually people run away from trauma.. This can be an answer..

I don’t think they just give up by accepting their mutilated life and just go on with that without complaining and i don’t think neither everybody suicided, or at least, i hope is not like that..
 
anonymoususer777 said:
If people have recovered from this drug, why aren't more of them coming back on this forum to give us hope or tell us how they are doing? Do people lack empathy so much that they cant show some humanity to peoplewho suffered l
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Except for one or two people, I haven't seen anyone who can say they've fully recovered. Those who have haven't described in detail what they experienced during the process. Someone who has recovered from such a horrible situation will express it in a very hysterical way, but I've never encountered anyone who says they've recovered in any way.
 
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