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Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v. 9

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maryjaneforever said:
I think I’ve told you guys before about the girl who was there who has been in seclusion since 2016. Nine years. On Invega. I cannot even comprehend.
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What country does she live in? Im in Canada and was never in there for longer then a day or 2 in one stretch i dont think. It's kinda hard to keep track of time when your locked up in solitary vso im guessing. It literally felt like forever. I was pretty violent as well and likely more of a threat to security guards then that woman. I didnt go around attacking patients but i did attack security and also one doctor who refused to give me my meds.

In prison they can keep you in solitary legally for 14 days in Canada. But they get around this by taking you out of your cell then throwing you back in. In prison you only have rights on paper.

It pisses me off that anyone in a psych "hospital" would get thrown in solitary never mind since 2016. That is fucking insane. Hospitals are there to treat you not fucking punish you and why do some doctors and nurses not get that? It fucking pisses me off. If i wanted to go to get treated like im in prison i would go out and commit crimes and go to prison. I didnt like the nurses that worked in the psych ward at all. One older guy there was ok and left us alone but the rest where cunts. One nurse there would always follow me and my friends along to see if we where smoking weed or cigs. Like why not leave us the fuck alone? It's bad enough being locked up never mind not having cigs or weed.

I saw things in the psych ward that really lowered my opinion on humanity in general. The way patients where treated in there sickened me. Seeing people come back zombified by ECT was rather traumatic as well. My friend in there had ECT and he ended up forgetting who i was. What psychopath would give someone ECT? In this day and age it is totally fucked especially. With access to drugs like s ketamine and also psychedelics for depression there are much better options. With ECT there s no going back either once you fry your brain with it. Atleast with s ketamine or psychs if you do have a bad time on them you will go back to normal once they wear off. Both S ketamine and shrooms really helped my PTSD. Now my PTSD is so much better i dont even complain to my shrink about it now
 
I think I started having normal orgasms. They don't feel like the really good ones, but they don't feel blunted. The biggest problem is lower libido, lower arousal quality, and less erogenous sensation. I still need a vibrator to get off. I feel like post-invega/pre-pssd sexually, maybe a little better in the orgasm department. So grateful to have this much back.
 
TonyTonyChopper said:
Lol yup I had so much coffee today, I should probably sleep GN friends. REMEMBER psychiatry will fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking DIE. Its actually already in the works

www.whitehouse.gov

Establishing the President's Make America Healthy Again Commission

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1.
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

"assess the prevalence of and threat posed by the prescription of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, stimulants, and weight-loss drugs;"

Trump might just be the guy to ban it but I'm not a trump supporter. CANADA NUMBER 1.
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I think they have a plan to kill mentally and chronically ill people, the Republican party has become Nazified. This whole thing is terrifying. I do not want an indefinite stay at a "wellness farm". That's just as bad as being locked up.

Also prescription stimulants are pretty harmless and the worst thing that can happen is tics, temporary psychosis, and addiction. I was on stimulants as a child and it helped me a lot. I don't get this "my kid was zombified on concereta" shit, that wasn't me. And if that is happening, their dose is too high. I want to be on stimulants again when my brain heals.

Wanting to end psychiatry is kinda like wanting to end chemo because chemo has permanent side effects and killed people while being an effective cancer treatment. Shutting down psychiatry would shut off the avenues to making better medication.
 
I think if they cut off drugs, all drugs, psychiatric, weed, heroin, everything, the humans would be better.
The people I know that have never touched a single drug in their life of any sort have a much better life.
 
maryjaneforever said:
I think if they cut off drugs, all drugs, psychiatric, weed, heroin, everything, the humans would be better.
The people I know that have never touched a single drug in their life of any sort have a much better life.
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People would be far worse off imo. Thats a very Jean Jacques Rousseau point of view that you have. He believed in going back and living like man did before modern civilization came about. It was his ideas with others that gave birth to the French revolution.

I dont take this pov at all though. Personally i think we are far better off with modern meds. Like what am i supposed to do if i need surgery? There are no anesthetics so even surgery cant really be performed. Most people just died if they needed a leg cut off or something before anesthetics came about. The only anesthetic they had was rum but in your world that wouldnt even exist. Also what if i have a psychotic episode or a panic attack? There is no zyprexa or bromazepam in that kind of utopia either. Also if im in alot of pain what drug do i take? Do i get opium atleast since its natural?

Drugs like weed and psychedelics hardly cause much negative effects anyway. I have never gotten negative side effects from either weed or shrooms or acid.
 
paranoid android said:
People would be far worse off imo. Thats a very Jean Jacques Rousseau point of view that you have. He believed in going back and living like man did before modern civilization came about. It was his ideas with others that gave birth to the French revolution.

I dont take this pov at all though. Personally i think we are far better off with modern meds. Like what am i supposed to do if i need surgery? There are no anesthetics so even surgery cant really be performed. Most people just died if they needed a leg cut off or something before anesthetics came about. The only anesthetic they had was rum but in your world that wouldnt even exist. Also what if i have a psychotic episode or a panic attack? There is no zyprexa or bromazepam in that kind of utopia either. Also if im in alot of pain what drug do i take? Do i get opium atleast since its natural?

Drugs like weed and psychedelics hardly cause much negative effects anyway. I have never gotten negative side effects from either weed or shrooms or acid.
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No I don’t mean if you need surgery.
And yes I believe weed causes mental illness or at least unlocks it. You wouldn’t need zyprexa or bromazepam if you’d never touched a single drug in your life.

And yes weed and psychedelics cause mental illness almost everyone in here got shot up because of weed induced psychosis. Literally.
 
maryjaneforever said:
No I don’t mean if you need surgery.
And yes I believe weed causes mental illness or at least unlocks it. You wouldn’t need zyprexa or bromazepam if you’d never touched a single drug in your life.

And yes weed and psychedelics cause mental illness almost everyone in here got shot up because of weed induced psychosis. Literally.
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I got the idea that all drugs would be banned. What about if you need opiates after surgery?

Your staring ton sound like my former shrink in the psych ward. She blamed everyones problems on weed it was rather funny looking back on it actually. I waset even smoking weed when i developed cotards syndrome and psychosis. Thats because dead people dot need drugs. I wasent even taking my opiates or benzos.

I always had anxiety even as a kid but sadly i didnt get it treated until i was in my 20's. I suffered alot because of anxiety it was not fun having that as a kid as far back as i can remember.

I have taken lots of trips on shrooms and acid and have never gotten anything resembling psychosis. Now it can rarely cause problems but its probably nothing a benzo wouldnt fix. Thats how you treat a bad trip.

Also we need antipsychotics and benzos. Schizophrenia exisys you dont need to take drugs to get that. Also with benzos what about people with epilepsy? So many people with epilepsy would be cut off from their benzos. Some forms of epilepsy are best treated with valium or clonazepam.

I would never want to cut people off their meds that work as i dont like people fucking with mine.
 
anyone have any luck with zopiclone and or stimulants? i've been waking up like six times a night after invega and i heard it's good for stopping that. i also heard stimulants help with anhedonia?
 
paranoid android said:
I got the idea that all drugs would be banned. What about if you need opiates after surgery?

Your staring ton sound like my former shrink in the psych ward. She blamed everyones problems on weed it was rather funny looking back on it actually. I waset even smoking weed when i developed cotards syndrome and psychosis. Thats because dead people dot need drugs. I wasent even taking my opiates or benzos.

I always had anxiety even as a kid but sadly i didnt get it treated until i was in my 20's. I suffered alot because of anxiety it was not fun having that as a kid as far back as i can remember.

I have taken lots of trips on shrooms and acid and have never gotten anything resembling psychosis. Now it can rarely cause problems but its probably nothing a benzo wouldnt fix. Thats how you treat a bad trip.

Also we need antipsychotics and benzos. Schizophrenia exisys you dont need to take drugs to get that. Also with benzos what about people with epilepsy? So many people with epilepsy would be cut off from their benzos. Some forms of epilepsy are best treated with valium or clonazepam.

I would never want to cut people off their meds that work as i dont like people fucking with mine.
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Meh I can’t be fucked arguing with you. Your missing the point.

Maybe too much acid has done something to your brain mate

I’m with believeingod when it comes to you. Pro psychiatry you are. It’s all in your head
 
maryjaneforever said:
I think if they cut off drugs, all drugs, psychiatric, weed, heroin, everything, the humans would be better.
The people I know that have never touched a single drug in their life of any sort have a much better life.
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i think it'd be interesting to have different simulation society's and see how people respond... like a society with out drugs and one with drugs and temptation type stuff and not let the people know the other society existed..

i feel like people might be better off in the society with out all the temptation/addiction from drugs and what not... it'd be really interesting to see how each society responded.


a agree sometimes people are better off not trying drugs and not knowing what it's like... with people not even knowing that drugs existed like they didn't have them in society might increase the chances of some people being happier... it'd just be very different at least i would think.
 
maryjaneforever said:
I think I’ve told you guys before about the girl who was there who has been in seclusion since 2016. Nine years. On Invega. I cannot even comprehend.
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Oh my god. Is she a full schizophrenic? Surely has to be a reason for that? Otherwise that cannot be humane.
 
i was in the psychward for 3 months. for the first month they left me with out meds to see how i responded, and then they drugged me for two months after that... they were talking about putting me in some type of long term program at another hospital, but apparently me deciding to play guitar and doing art on the meds was a sign that i was recovering, which was pretty good... that was like my fifth time getting admitted.

i think if someone is constantly getting put in the psychward, they keep people for longer each time. i heard there is some kid from my area that keeps getting cought doing graffiti and he acts crazy at the hospital and in prison, so he's been in the psychward for years... my father was saying his friend's son hit someone and he was locked up for years in a mental hospital. they let him out. he took meds and was doing good. i think he got in trouble again though, and that makes my father super worried about me.. supposedly 25% of schizophrenic people recover and don't get dellusional after their first incident google says though... i'm really not sure. i seem to be pretty grounded. i think i'll be okay, but who knows. i guess people don't really predict when they are going to have a psychotic break.
 
foodcrisis said:
i was in the psychward for 3 months. for the first month they left me with out meds to see how i responded, and then they drugged me for two months after that... they were talking about putting me in some type of long term program at another hospital, but apparently me deciding to play guitar and doing art on the meds was a sign that i was recovering, which was pretty good... that was like my fifth time getting admitted.

i think if someone is constantly getting put in the psychward, they keep people for longer each time. i heard there is some kid from my area that keeps getting cought doing graffiti and he acts crazy at the hospital and in prison, so he's been in the psychward for years... my father was saying his friend's son hit someone and he was locked up for years in a mental hospital. they let him out. he took meds and was doing good. i think he got in trouble again though, and that makes my father super worried about me.. supposedly 25% of schizophrenic people recover and don't get dellusional after their first incident google says though... i'm really not sure. i seem to be pretty grounded. i think i'll be okay, but who knows. i guess people don't really predict when they are going to have a psychotic break.
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I was in there for 6 months 3 months without any medication despite having psychosis and opiate and benzo withdrawal. I didnt even get a aspirin. After getting into a fight that my brother had to break up because security wanted nothing to do with it my brother flipped out and the nurse told him to call the head of the hospital to get another shrink. Only for that nurse telling my brother that i may still be in there wasting away

As bad as invega is psychosis and especially cotards is worse. Being dead sucks so bad
 
IOSIP said:
Oh my god. Is she a full schizophrenic? Surely has to be a reason for that? Otherwise that cannot be humane.
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paranoid android said:
I am very skeptical of these stories.
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U calling me a liar? Maybe that’s why your on zyprexa. Paranoid schizophrenia or something.
Read and weep skeptic

www.theguardian.com

‘Urgent’ action needed after Melbourne woman’s near decade in solitary confinement in mental health facility, judge says

Woman remains in seclusion after being found not guilty of assault due to mental impairment in 2015
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
yeah.. i managed to keep pretty cool in the psychward. i have a total flight response and don't really hit people, so i'm pretty good.. like i have this thing when i'm tripped out where i totally want to avoid contact and will move to the corner of a room or whatever to get my own space. i get scared in a way... but a couple times i like randomly growled and kind of got into a trance for a second when in my own space cause of anxiety and just being generally super pissed off at the situation.. it only happened a couple times... i yelled for a quick second one time after going on this few minute spiel about my faith and how i didn't believe in these drugs for the people that were there when i was in the room by myself out the door at the staff.. in my head i was like "i know they are going to drug me", so i couldn't stay cool. i think if i didn't freak out, they might've let me out with out medicating me.

i remember i was in the psychwrad for a week one time before and i was just super hyper active and happy the whole time. they let me have a hand held radio and i did kareoke like adam sandler or tenacious d to the rock station like way too much for me to understand not being drugged.. there was this big hall way and i was spending time flicking chekers off a table and then running down the hall way trying to collect all the checkers as fast as possible. then i was like crying out of my mind at other moments.. that hospital was pretty weird. like i was nice to the staff the whole time and could make sense to them that i was just bored and trying to recover from being anxious... i didn't really harrass any body and kept to myself.. but idk. i was acting pretty weird. i think some doctors might've drugged me with how i was acting.
 
You people all need to get your clinical notes from the hospitals under freedom of information and see what these assholes wrote about you. You’ll find half of it isn’t true.
The nurses are sadistic and just make shit up. Then the doctor reads it and goes oh yep more Invega.
I’m telling you, go read your files. You are entitled to it.
 
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