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Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v. 9

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By the way, if anyone has any blood pressure issues, the metabolic therapy I posted about earlier has shown great success in reversing diabetes also. I've been following it around 1.5 weeks so far. Blood pressure was around 140/90, it's been 115/70 for 3/4 days now, hopefully it continues to improve.
 
okthen said:
Yes, that navigating issue is horrendous. I used to have an image in my head of everything, where I was in relation to stuff, where other things should be in relation to each other etc. That's gone. I get lost and confused places I've been hundreds of times. I just walk around corners surprised what's there and wonder forever to find what I used to be able to pinpoint an image of in my head. Never seen anyone talk about navigational problems on here.
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I think it's an extension of memory problems. I think I was fine the last time I went to a store though. I almost never leave my house except to go on walks or to go to the library and I do have a mental map of the footpaths I take.
 
LuiBliss said:
These herbs are a gift from nature and I can only believe that they would help your condition. Herbs is the true medicine that has been used since the begining of time. So if you are looking for a cure, I encourage you to start looking for herbal remedies that fit your liking.
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Ginseng does seem safe as long as it's from the root and not the flower.
 
okthen said:
Yes, that navigating issue is horrendous. I used to have an image in my head of everything, where I was in relation to stuff, where other things should be in relation to each other etc. That's gone. I get lost and confused places I've been hundreds of times. I just walk around corners surprised what's there and wonder forever to find what I used to be able to pinpoint an image of in my head. Never seen anyone talk about navigational problems on here.
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See it gives you dementia. I’ve always said that. Getting lost and confused in familiar places. I’ve had that too.
I’m still so mad about what I had to go through, about what it’s done to me. They shouldn’t be allowed to do this to people. Oh it only lasts a month, a fucking year later and I’m still brain dead.
 
maryjaneforever said:
See it gives you dementia. I’ve always said that. Getting lost and confused in familiar places. I’ve had that too.
I’m still so mad about what I had to go through, about what it’s done to me. They shouldn’t be allowed to do this to people. Oh it only lasts a month, a fucking year later and I’m still brain dead.
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Having low dopamine can give you dementia-like symptoms without actually giving you dementia. I had never been to the amusement park I lost my friends in, I had trouble keeping track of my friends and my short term memory was worse than it is now. Stores were a little confusing but I can handle a big grocery store with no problem now.

You said olanzapine helped you so maybe you do have a mild psychotic disorder and what you're feeling is negative symptoms? Just a thought. Olanzapine is one of the better medications for the negative symptoms of schizophrenia. It's probably for the best that you don't have it right now though.
 
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Just got sad for like 10 secs watching some hurrican thing. Someone got trapped under a tree. Also first tv show I've watched since injection. Pls be a great sign for coming days haha
 
i am more conscious of how my brain feels to me.

My brain is generally numb.

There is logic and thinking but no clear feeling is there so logic is very fragmented because in the past my logic or decision must have based on my feeling and preference

For example when I have to decide something, I can’t decide clearly because I feel nothing about it. Only a little. I think it is equivalent to the lack of sex drive.

I can logically see a woman beautiful but my brain doesn’t react to it and feel about it.

Beauty is mere word and has no meaning inside.

I see some art good drawing but I don’t see “true” beauty or godliness inside of it like I used to pre invega.

Conversation lack the warm and enjoyable feeling. There is only empty words and sound.

My thinking is very linear and can’t go deeper because in the logic i lack feeling or preference like robot.

I know I will recover so I don’t really worry about this but it is just so annoying I can’t decide something because there is lack of feeling.

I used to love spiritual things that give me all kinds of meaning about life. Now there is no such thing as destiny, meaning about life, beauty, spirit, art etc
 
wbga said:
i am more conscious of how my brain feels to me.

My brain is generally numb.

There is logic and thinking but no clear feeling is there so logic is very fragmented because in the past my logic or decision must have based on my feeling and preference

For example when I have to decide something, I can’t decide clearly because I feel nothing about it. Only a little. I think it is equivalent to the lack of sex drive.

I can logically see a woman beautiful but my brain doesn’t react to it and feel about it.

Beauty is mere word and has no meaning inside.

I see some art good drawing but I don’t see “true” beauty or godliness inside of it like I used to pre invega.

Conversation lack the warm and enjoyable feeling. There is only empty words and sound.

My thinking is very linear and can’t go deeper because in the logic i lack feeling or preference like robot.

I know I will recover so I don’t really worry about this but it is just so annoying I can’t decide something because there is lack of feeling.

I used to love spiritual things that give me all kinds of meaning about life. Now there is no such thing as destiny, meaning about life, beauty, spirit, art etc
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I feel exactly the same. It's exhausting
 
hit 9 months off 2 days ago and im literlly the same. Fucking bullshit . I did take 60 mg vyvanse pills from my sister yesterday and I felt very motivated and less anhedonic. That just proves my dopamine levels are way too low. Remember invega blocks up to 90% of dopamine. What I don't understand is why the fuck do i feel the effects of low dopamine despite discontinuing invega 9 months ago. Makes 0 fckn sense.
 
TonyTonyChopper said:
hit 9 months off 2 days ago and im literlly the same. Fucking bullshit . I did take 60 mg vyvanse pills from my sister yesterday and I felt very motivated and less anhedonic. That just proves my dopamine levels are way too low. Remember invega blocks up to 90% of dopamine. What I don't understand is why the fuck do i feel the effects of low dopamine despite discontinuing invega 9 months ago. Makes 0 fckn sense.
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Seen a lot of people mention just going from 0-100 overnight instead of gradually improving. Also people like @lifeline and @Bobskitchen took 1.5-2 years to go back to normal. I'd say there's still hope, must suck at 9 months of this tho, big time. I'm not quite 4 off and I do go the ships every 3 days, wasn't doing that in beginning so I do move more now. Also think I got one of them small windows of emotion yesterday, but still feel like shit today in bed all morning like usual now.
 
okthen said:
Seen a lot of people mention just going from 0-100 overnight instead of gradually improving. Also people like @lifeline and @Bobskitchen took 1.5-2 years to go back to normal. I'd say there's still hope, must suck at 9 months of this tho, big time. I'm not quite 4 off and I do go the ships every 3 days, wasn't doing that in beginning so I do move more now. Also think I got one of them small windows of emotion yesterday, but still feel like shit today in bed all morning like usual now.
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yeah mucky most recently recovered overnight at 24 months off and he had 10+ injections like me. It just depresses that I have to wait till 2026 to recover. Life is just passing me by. It eats me inside seeing family and friends reaching milestones and enjoying life while I rot for years because I was forced on invega shots
 
TonyTonyChopper said:
It eats me inside seeing family and friends reaching milestones and enjoying life while I rot for years because...
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I sympathise. I was never put on these shots, but I had neurodevelopmental disorders and it really sucked watching others seem to get ahead whilst I faltered and felt left behind.

Other people also didn't have all these fucked up neurological issues that I seem to have. It's why I decided to end my life if I suffer another major sudden hearing damage episode - which, by the way is NOT caused by noise, that's an external thing, this thing is an internal problem that I absolutely have no control over, and at that doctors won't even bother to help they just tell me it's out of their hands when I know deep down what is causing this shit and that it's going to be over for me someday soon.

I watch these other people with their seemingly drama-free and trouble-free lives (that's not 100% true) but it IS true compared to the shit I'm constantly dealing with, which I know is going to end my life for me anyway.
 
People...
Your mindset can affect your mental health diagnosis in a positive or negative way. Please try to remain hopeful and encourage yourself to think more positively. With the positive thinking comes positive action and thus the way you feel will become elevated. I say I am the richest man (to be) in the video, yet I already feel like the richest man on Earth. Even though I have a diagnosis of severe mental illness (schizoaffective disorder) and I take multiple medications to treat it (Invega Trniza and Valproic Sodium). Things wern't always this glamorous but I stuck with my ambitions and I can just feel them coming to fruition now.
Take your life into your own hands and begin to think mindfully. Be grateful for what you have and aim for your perfect Life(Style). You can do it!

 
Flynnal said:
I sympathise. I was never put on these shots, but I had neurodevelopmental disorders and it really sucked watching others seem to get ahead whilst I faltered and felt left behind.

Other people also didn't have all these fucked up neurological issues that I seem to have. It's why I decided to end my life if I suffer another major sudden hearing damage episode - which, by the way is NOT caused by noise, that's an external thing, this thing is an internal problem that I absolutely have no control over, and at that doctors won't even bother to help they just tell me it's out of their hands when I know deep down what is causing this shit and that it's going to be over for me someday soon.

I watch these other people with their seemingly drama-free and trouble-free lives (that's not 100% true) but it IS true compared to the shit I'm constantly dealing with, which I know is going to end my life for me anyway.
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Looks like you need some ambition in your life.. 😊
 
I was able to follow a creative prompt easily for data annotation stuff. I hate AI and I feel like I'm digging my own grave, but I need money. I'm signing up for a different platform since the first one is taking its sweet time getting back to me. The last time I was told to follow a creative prompt for an assessment like this, I cried because I couldn't conjure anything for a whole day, and then I went back to it. It only took me like 10 minutes to write something I was happy with.
 
TonyTonyChopper said:
yeah mucky most recently recovered overnight at 24 months off and he had 10+ injections like me. It just depresses that I have to wait till 2026 to recover. Life is just passing me by. It eats me inside seeing family and friends reaching milestones and enjoying life while I rot for years because I was forced on invega shots
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Yup, I'm right there with ye rotting away. I don't even get up till like 1-2pm. It seems really random, some recover overnight at say 10 months, some gradually improve till full recovery at 10 months. Pretty sure @starkid gradually improved but still took him 24-36 months for normality also.

The drug is just nuts man, just look at the reviews. If people read bad hotel reviews, they wouldn't even take the risk of a bad hotel stay, yet a drug that goes into your body has absolutely abysmal press about it and not one person making the decision about using it on someone takes any of that into account. Nuts. Absolute insanity. I don't know if its because people just assume a legal drug = a safe, tested drug or what, but it's clear this specific drug is really fucked up. Love to see a write up of people who were administered this stuff on their experience with it, especially people who've never taken this class of drug before. Literally like getting the dementor kiss from Harry Potter, takes all the life out of you and all the life out of life. Just lay there doing nothing waiting to go to sleep, there is no want/ desire to do anything for some reason, not interact with life or interact with people. It's just nothing. You do NOTHING. Never had any of these issues before in my life, up until being given this stuff, with no option to even look what it is, does or others experiences with it.
 
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3 years today that I was injected. Never knew a shot could ruin my life. I can finally feel the final stages of the drug now. I believe I have approx 2-3 months left. Been working out and trying to drink water throughout the day
 
okthen said:
Yup, I'm right there with ye rotting away. I don't even get up till like 1-2pm. It seems really random, some recover overnight at say 10 months, some gradually improve till full recovery at 10 months. Pretty sure @starkid gradually improved but still took him 24-36 months for normality also.

The drug is just nuts man, just look at the reviews. If people read bad hotel reviews, they wouldn't even take the risk of a bad hotel stay, yet a drug that goes into your body has absolutely abysmal press about it and not one person making the decision about using it on someone takes any of that into account. Nuts. Absolute insanity. I don't know if its because people just assume a legal drug = a safe, tested drug or what, but it's clear this specific drug is really fucked up. Love to see a write up of people who were administered this stuff on their experience with it, especially people who've never taken this class of drug before. Literally like getting the dementor kiss from Harry Potter, takes all the life out of you and all the life out of life. Just lay there doing nothing waiting to go to sleep, there is no want/ desire to do anything for some reason, not interact with life or interact with people. It's just nothing. You do NOTHING. Never had any of these issues before in my life, up until being given this stuff, with no option to even look what it is, does or others experiences with it.
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Try supplementing. Either see a naturopath and let them know what's going on with you or take what I took cuz it worked wonders for me while I'm still taking the drug so I would imagine their efficacy is even greater for someone like you who is no longer taking the drug and still want a boost:-
B Complex vitamins
Vitamin C
Vitamin D
Vitamin E (great for sex drive)
Omega 3
Uniquinol CoQ10

You gotta do what you gotta do to feel great [again]. After I started feeling great I stopped taking the supplements. And continue to feel great. I do drink atleast 1 cup of herbal tea a day. The herbal tea consists of my own tailor made mixture and would have anything from lung therapy (cuz I smoke a lot):-
Mullein
Lungwort
Lobelia (a very tad bit cuz in large quantities it's awful)
I also mix in Licorice Root and Hibiscus not just for the benefits but for taste as well.
Other herbs that I drink include:
Gingko Biloba
Ginseng
Dandelion Leaf and Fruit
And many others
Each day I brew something new and this has worked great for me and I encourage you to delve into alternative healing modalities if you are feeling this awful all the time.

Like I said, I am still taking the drug (so imagine how bad that is) yet following these regiments I am feeling better than what normal people feel because I have nature on my side. So much nature. And the force of nature is very strong. Stronger than any drug.
Hope this alleviates and answers your complaints and good luck to you, okthen, and anyone that could benefit from this info.
 
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