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Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v. 9

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InvegaAnon said:
Do you think invega caused your low T?
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I wouldnt doubt at all that invega and abilify caused it. I didnt get it up for about a year and a half or 2 years on that shit. I also put on loads of weight when i was on it. I managed to lose the weight when i got off the abilify and my sex drive came back.

I cant wait to get on the test and start working out like a motherfucker though. Im already in pretty good shape so this should help alot
 
maryjaneforever said:
It’s a depression I’ve never felt before in my life and I’ve always had depression.
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I know what you mean about it having changed your way of thinking. I always had like, a mental map of things and how they connected and I understood things like selection pressure in the theory of evolution, systematic oppression, and historical chains really well. I had a very associative mind and I would make connections and I had a good level of systemic thinking. In schizophrenia, a person is TOO connective and they make connections and associations that shouldn't be made, that aren't true. So it makes sense that such a mechanism would be damaged in normal people by antipsychotics.

This old way of thinking has partially returned for me, I can at least grasp new higher concepts again and I'm seeing things like how machine learning can cause the collapse of the internet as we know it, as well as the entertainment economy. I hope to rebuild it some day with psilocybin. That can enhance that kind of thinking, which is why people with untreated schizophrenia (seen people in remission handle them fine) or family history of the disease shouldn't have psychedelics.
 
paranoid android said:
I wouldnt doubt at all that invega and abilify caused it. I didnt get it up for about a year and a half or 2 years on that shit. I also put on loads of weight when i was on it. I managed to lose the weight when i got off the abilify and my sex drive came back.

I cant wait to get on the test and start working out like a motherfucker though. Im already in pretty good shape so this should help alot
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I have this constant fear that invega permanatly fucked up my hormones and I won't be able to carry a baby to term. But I also know that I have PCOS and my hormones are probably weird because of that and it's treatable. Invega is supposed to be contrainated in PCOS though, meaning they shouldn't give it to people with hormonal imbalances. :I It gives people cysts, but I didn't have any cysts, just abnormal testosterone levels and slightly out of range estradiol and progesterone. I haven't done a hormone panel since I started having periods again though.
 
InvegaAnon said:
I have this constant fear that invega permanatly fucked up my hormones and I won't be able to carry a baby to term. But I also know that I have PCOS and my hormones are probably weird because of that and it's treatable. Invega is supposed to be contrainated in PCOS though, meaning they shouldn't give it to people with hormonal imbalances. :I It gives people cysts, but I didn't have any cysts, just abnormal testosterone levels and slightly out of range estradiol and progesterone. I haven't done a hormone panel since I started having periods again though.
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My biggest fear. I didn’t know how important hormones were.

I conceived my first child without a problem, my body did its thing, she grew I birthed her. I didn’t even have to think about it.

Now that I’m trying to get pregnant again I’m learning all about the hormones and what my body needs to make a baby. And I’m scared. The smallest lack of something and you don’t conceive. And keep to term.

My pituitary gland needs to send lh to my ovaries in order to ovulate. Dopamine assists in ovulation. I need estrogen to do cervical things. It’s all a delicate balance down there, all created by hormones in the brain, which invega fucked.
I need estradiol and progesterone, hormones responsible for female development, fertility and maintaining pregnancy. The production of theses sex hormones are regulated by the gonadotropins FSH and LH produced in the pituitary gland.

I don’t even want to have sex. They’ve ruined my god given primal instincts.

No baby again this month :(
 
paranoid android said:
Heroin doesent cause psychosis though so noone would get psychosis from that. Also heroin is quite expensive while weed is literally dollars a gram.
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here in France, heroin is not expensive in bulk. smoking 15 joints of hashish per day you will see in short it was prevention after everyone does as they want
 
foodcrisis said:
withdrawl and having to deal with keeping connections and dealing with the addiction can though.
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Why would you keep buying weed that was cut? If you smoked weed that was cut and got enough heroin into your system to actually feel it why woluld you keep smoking that weed? If i bought a drug that was cut i sure as shit would not go back to that dealer.

Also heroin addiction does not happen overnight. I have never been a heroin addict but ive been on almost every prescribed opiate from tramadol right up to fentanyl. It took me months of being on oxycodone to really develop any addiction. If you got enough heroin in your system to get addicted you would know that your weed is cut with something so why would you keep smoking it?
 
fenec said:
here in France, heroin is not expensive in bulk. smoking 15 joints of hashish per day you will see in short it was prevention after everyone does as they want
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Why would someone buy a bulk amount of heroin and then decide to sell it for less to their customers? Heroin may not be as expensive as expensive in France but compared to weed its still more expensive. That makes zero economic sense. Why sell at a loss? Also if people started oding off that shit they would have alot of heat on them. Why risk that to sell at a loss?
 
maryjaneforever said:
My biggest fear. I didn’t know how important hormones were.

I conceived my first child without a problem, my body did its thing, she grew I birthed her. I didn’t even have to think about it.

Now that I’m trying to get pregnant again I’m learning all about the hormones and what my body needs to make a baby. And I’m scared. The smallest lack of something and you don’t conceive. And keep to term.

My pituitary gland needs to send lh to my ovaries in order to ovulate. Dopamine assists in ovulation. I need estrogen to do cervical things. It’s all a delicate balance down there, all created by hormones in the brain, which invega fucked.
I need estradiol and progesterone, hormones responsible for female development, fertility and maintaining pregnancy. The production of theses sex hormones are regulated by the gonadotropins FSH and LH produced in the pituitary gland.

I don’t even want to have sex. They’ve ruined my god given primal instincts.

No baby again this month :(
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You should see if you have a progesterone deficiency, it is highly treatable and it can also help bring up estrogen again. I did a lot of research and the hormonal imbalances caused by antipsychotics can be helped by cycling progesterone. I considered doing that until I started getting my period every month. My cycles are regular now, but a little long.

Myo-inositol is good at bringing up estrogen. You should try that. Some healthy women supplement it when they're trying to get pregnant just because it increases the odds in everybody, not just people with hormonal imbalances.

If it's any comfort, I can't find results for "invega/paliperidone permanent infertility" on PubMed. It took Kia 1.5 years to even have a period and she's regular now, and her hormonal regulation completed her recovery. I saw a guy on Reddit who took two whole years for his hormones and sperm count to go back to normal, so I think it takes some people two years to completely bounce back, so maybe you're on a similar timeline.

I wish you luck in expanding your family. It's not hopeless, even if your hormone production is messed up. There are people with full blown hypopituitarism who conceived, albeit with a lot of medical support.
 
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Personally, I thought I would smoke Moroccan hash. I would never have imagined who would cut it until one day I felt paranoid. In short, I would never smoke again except if I was the one growing my weed.
 
fenec said:
Personally, I thought I would smoke Moroccan hash. I would never have imagined who would cut it until one day I felt paranoid. In short, I would never smoke again except if I was the one growing my weed.
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well anyway let's move on, today I did my hirudotherapy session with medicinal leech it's my 3rd session it really makes me feel good inform you on the subject it works miracles it's little leeches
 
Who is employed here? Only asking because I’m unemployed and not sure how it’s affecting my depression.
 
fenec said:
well anyway let's move on, today I did my hirudotherapy session with medicinal leech it's my 3rd session it really makes me feel good inform you on the subject it works miracles it's little leeches
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Yeah let’s move on. You’ve been posting crap about weed cut heroin for days and I’m over it.

You want some invega so you can talk about that instead? Seeing as that’s why we’re all here? Oh that’s right you’ve never even had it.
 
When I was healing I read every thread. I mean I had nothing else to do or want to do.

The things that I found that helped me were the little things that someone would only mention once or twice and be able to describe it for me.
And I’m like oh yep I had that too. That’s invega.

For example the cool water on your brain feeling,
the embarrassing memories that would come up just as you’re about to sleep following with that gut wrenching feeling,
the brain burn,
the constant pacing,
the urgent need to kill yourself


When I was unable to describe what I was going through at a couple months off because I couldn’t think speak and I could read other people describe it for me once they got better. That helped me a lot.

Not someone posting about fuckin weed cut ketamine and heroin. Move on.
 
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jrsteez said:
Who is employed here? Only asking because I’m unemployed and not sure how it’s affecting my depression.
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Paliperidone is a very activating Atypical antipsychotic with strong D2 and 5HT2 antagonism, but if your looking for one that works better on Depression I would ask your Doctor about Aripiprazole or Brexpiprazole. Aripiprazole actually comes in long acting injections now. Best thing to do is talk to your Doctor about it.
 
The fact that people could tell me step by step what was happening month by month.

When I was in the shower five months off and I got out and sat on the edge of the bath and I couldn’t even gather the strength to put my pants on. The shallow breathing. I felt like an 80 year old with dementia. I thought to myself I can’t believe this is happening.

I had like ocd for years. Everything had to be in its right spot and I’d shower two or three times a day. To not being able to clean to not giving a shit where things were to not being able to shower. I knew they had done something serious to me.
 
In my opinion Invega is bad. I'd never ask for that stuff. The two best antidepressants for OCD are Fluvoxamine and Clomipramine. Like I said... talk to your Doctor.
 
MedicinalUser247 said:
Paliperidone is a very activating Atypical antipsychotic with strong D2 and 5HT2 antagonism, but if your looking for one that works better on Depression I would ask your Doctor about Aripiprazole or Brexpiprazole. Aripiprazole actually comes in long acting injections now. Best thing to do is talk to your Doctor about it.
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I appreciate the suggestions but I’ve already had Abilify and Invega is the second antipsychotic I’ve been on. And basically I say fuck all to antipsychotics. They’re the most disabling medication I’ve ever taken. Every antipsychotic gives me suicidal thoughts. The only thing that helped my depression was an SSRI.
 
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