my understanding is that EVERYTHING comes back, if it didn’t then there would be a lot of people complaining, my symptoms seem to have worsened recently, so indeed I am also worried but I saw two people who’s symptoms got worse and they recovered
Really? Where did you order it from?
I got it from India mart, took like a week and it looks legit, I got 360mg since I only took 2 doses and since it’s been 3 months, I think I am going to take it 3 times a day for 3 weeks because the enzyme inducer effects last for longer
Your doctors do not know about sometimes permanent Neuroleptic-Induced Deficit Syndrome (NIDS)? It is under-researched and under-recognized, i.e. not formally recognized in diagnostic manuals like the DSM-5 or ICD-11, but is a known condition.
I cannot imagine how smart you were before these shots. A tough rebel you are.Your doctors do not know about sometimes permanent Neuroleptic-Induced Deficit Syndrome (NIDS)? It is under-researched and under-recognized, i.e. not formally recognized in diagnostic manuals like the DSM-5 or ICD-11, but is a known condition.
According to AI search: "A. Rifkin's 1984 paper "Neuroleptic-induced deficit syndrome" is often cited as the foundational description of Neuroleptic-Induced Deficit Syndrome (NIDS). Rifkin described it as a state of apathy, lack of initiative, and emotional blunting directly caused by antipsychotics, distinguishable from depression and the primary illness.
Associated Researchers: Look for work from this era by John Kane, Stephen R. Marder, and Theo C. Manschreck. They often discussed "secondary negative symptoms" or "akinetic depression" induced by high-potency typical antipsychotics like haloperidol.
Search Terms: Use these in PubMed/Google Scholar: "neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome," "akinetic depression," "secondary negative symptoms antipsychotics," "drug-induced parkinsonism affective."
There is a new group "Iatrogenic Neuroimmune Disease Association" that put out a research document last year with a brief paragraph about NIDS:
Source: https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/8c970a38-146a-4f63-a408-d45f62d06b4b/downloads/c4249329-78d0-4acd-9c36-778a0248909e/PSSD Clinical Findings 2.0 - F2705s.pdf?ver=1763662133954
It is hard to compile data/evidence with cognitive dysfunction, but we need to be prepared to defend our claims for when situations like this one arise, so we can't be gaslit, silenced or ignored.
I was skimming old threads and users have been suggesting we do this for years, e.g. @deficiT in 2024:
Fun fact: "It took psychiatry 20 years to recognize TD [tardive dyskinesia] as an iatrogenic illness, even as it afflicted half or more of hospitalized patients (Gelman, 1984)." - Peter Breggin from "Brain-Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry" (1997).
"In 1983, Dr Peter Breggin wrote about the risk of tardive dyskinesia in children and tardive dementia in children and adults in his book "Psychiatric Drugs". This book and his efforts resulted in the U.S. FDA requiring the 1985 expanded class label for tardive dyskinesia for all neuroleptics."
Anyway, good on you for persevering @RisperdalConsta50mg
So, the whole damage is into the D2 Dopamine receptor? Not into the alfa1, alfa2, norandrenaline, GABA, 5HT2A Serotonin?Your doctors do not know about sometimes permanent Neuroleptic-Induced Deficit Syndrome (NIDS)? It is under-researched and under-recognized, i.e. not formally recognized in diagnostic manuals like the DSM-5 or ICD-11, but is a known condition.
According to AI search: "A. Rifkin's 1984 paper "Neuroleptic-induced deficit syndrome" is often cited as the foundational description of Neuroleptic-Induced Deficit Syndrome (NIDS). Rifkin described it as a state of apathy, lack of initiative, and emotional blunting directly caused by antipsychotics, distinguishable from depression and the primary illness.
Associated Researchers: Look for work from this era by John Kane, Stephen R. Marder, and Theo C. Manschreck. They often discussed "secondary negative symptoms" or "akinetic depression" induced by high-potency typical antipsychotics like haloperidol.
Search Terms: Use these in PubMed/Google Scholar: "neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome," "akinetic depression," "secondary negative symptoms antipsychotics," "drug-induced parkinsonism affective."
There is a new group "Iatrogenic Neuroimmune Disease Association" that put out a research document last year with a brief paragraph about NIDS:
Source: https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/8c970a38-146a-4f63-a408-d45f62d06b4b/downloads/c4249329-78d0-4acd-9c36-778a0248909e/PSSD Clinical Findings 2.0 - F2705s.pdf?ver=1763662133954
It is hard to compile data/evidence with cognitive dysfunction, but we need to be prepared to defend our claims for when situations like this one arise, so we can't be gaslit, silenced or ignored.
I was skimming old threads and users have been suggesting we do this for years, e.g. @deficiT in 2024:
Fun fact: "It took psychiatry 20 years to recognize TD [tardive dyskinesia] as an iatrogenic illness, even as it afflicted half or more of hospitalized patients (Gelman, 1984)." - Peter Breggin from "Brain-Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry" (1997).
"In 1983, Dr Peter Breggin wrote about the risk of tardive dyskinesia in children and tardive dementia in children and adults in his book "Psychiatric Drugs". This book and his efforts resulted in the U.S. FDA requiring the 1985 expanded class label for tardive dyskinesia for all neuroleptics."
Anyway, good on you for persevering @RisperdalConsta50mg
Well, i’am at 18 months and 3 days, not recovered at all, the only thing that changed it’s tinnitus that came out at 13 months mark.
@ixi what are the effects of Neuroleptic-Induced Deficit Syndrome (NIDS)? It is apathy, lack of initivative, and emotional blunting and permanent for long term users or for any one randomly?Your doctors do not know about sometimes permanent Neuroleptic-Induced Deficit Syndrome (NIDS)? It is under-researched and under-recognized, i.e. not formally recognized in diagnostic manuals like the DSM-5 or ICD-11, but is a known condition.
According to AI search: "A. Rifkin's 1984 paper "Neuroleptic-induced deficit syndrome" is often cited as the foundational description of Neuroleptic-Induced Deficit Syndrome (NIDS). Rifkin described it as a state of apathy, lack of initiative, and emotional blunting directly caused by antipsychotics, distinguishable from depression and the primary illness.
Associated Researchers: Look for work from this era by John Kane, Stephen R. Marder, and Theo C. Manschreck. They often discussed "secondary negative symptoms" or "akinetic depression" induced by high-potency typical antipsychotics like haloperidol.
Search Terms: Use these in PubMed/Google Scholar: "neuroleptic induced deficit syndrome," "akinetic depression," "secondary negative symptoms antipsychotics," "drug-induced parkinsonism affective."
There is a new group "Iatrogenic Neuroimmune Disease Association" that put out a research document last year with a brief paragraph about NIDS:
Source: https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/8c970a38-146a-4f63-a408-d45f62d06b4b/downloads/c4249329-78d0-4acd-9c36-778a0248909e/PSSD Clinical Findings 2.0 - F2705s.pdf?ver=1763662133954
It is hard to compile data/evidence with cognitive dysfunction, but we need to be prepared to defend our claims for when situations like this one arise, so we can't be gaslit, silenced or ignored.
I was skimming old threads and users have been suggesting we do this for years, e.g. @deficiT in 2024:
Fun fact: "It took psychiatry 20 years to recognize TD [tardive dyskinesia] as an iatrogenic illness, even as it afflicted half or more of hospitalized patients (Gelman, 1984)." - Peter Breggin from "Brain-Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry" (1997).
"In 1983, Dr Peter Breggin wrote about the risk of tardive dyskinesia in children and tardive dementia in children and adults in his book "Psychiatric Drugs". This book and his efforts resulted in the U.S. FDA requiring the 1985 expanded class label for tardive dyskinesia for all neuroleptics."
Anyway, good on you for persevering @RisperdalConsta50mg
I think it’s because you haven’t been taking it for long, i think you need to wait like 1 month or so to see changes then your dopamine has to regulate
The rimficin? I already took it for 3 weeks now i think, you can't take it forever it's not good for your body.
how long are you planning on taking it?
I only have around 30 pills, I'm taking less now 2-1 pills a day
