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Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (paliperidone)

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invegascrewed said:
Would you say you're close to full recovery?
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As far as depression its at an all time low.. Anhedonia is gone for the most part. The anxiety is at an all time high, and i deal with panic attacks when that happens.. I still have derealization and its hard to deal with... I still do have those moments of depression though.. Especially at work but i can pull myself out of it.
 
Symbolicone09 said:
As far as depression its at an all time low.. Anhedonia is gone for the most part. The anxiety is at an all time high, and i deal with panic attacks when that happens.. I still have derealization and its hard to deal with... I still do have those moments of depression though.. Especially at work but i can pull myself out of it.
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great to hear of such improvements - what about imagination, creativity, and concentration. -

- i still have somewhat bad DR - im lacking in imagination creativity and concentration , still a bit of anhedonia can't really feel environments
 
I'm new to this thread. My last injection was in late May... so according to my research, I'm within the time window for when the medication is supposed to "wear-off".

The main thing I lost from beginning this drug was my imagination and creativity. The high points of my manic episodes, prior to taking the drug, were my most creative moments - where I could come up with improv songs and lyrics and the lyrics were so very poetic and heart-felt. But nowadays, I can't even hardly imagine a vivid sexual fantasy anymore. It's a wonder I can do it with as little success as I can now, but I wager that has a lot to do with all the psychoactives and hallucinogens I've done.

But right now, I'm starting to get some of my abilities back. I am on month five (since my last injection). I am losing weight - which supposedly helps with getting Invega Sustenna out of your system a little faster.
Mainly I see this ordeal as a test that the gods have given me so that I may better learn to "have a little patience".
 
"
9/2013 to 1/2014 on zyprexa,
1/2014 to 3/2014 months on zoloft
cold turkeyd all meds but still suffering from anhedonia
..
....

01/2015 recovered, my old self is back
06/2015 better and stronger person "

http://survivingantidepressants.org...-the-brain-recover-from-antipsychotics/page-5

Seems like it takes a year - invega's more potent and it's a depot - so things might be different -

there's been improvements - music sounds a bit better and getting into some photography
 
*Update* With medication wearing off faster and faster every day, my withdrawal is becoming a pain in the neck (literally). I have stiff neck [syndrome] and have been prescribed Benztropine 1mg. Don't worry, I'm not going cold turkey. I'm still taking Invega 6mg but I don't think it's enough. I think I need to bump it up to 9mg, at least until I've waited this out.

There are certain days the medication's release (from my injection) weens down to a low-low degree. These are usually moments of intense emotions that trigger the dip in the medications effectiveness - or "control" over me. When I thought I fell in love with this girl, the medication actually almost completely stopped having an effect in me for about two and a half weeks... which is really strange... not that I cared too much that the effect was gone... it's just: it caused some unsettling withdrawal symptoms for that two and a half weeks.

So here I am, going on month five from when I had my last injection. I deem any day now will be the day my abilities start coming back and the injection's effects go away.
 
Bad Robot said:
What are peeps thoughts on procycledine ?
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For what use?

When I was on Abilify I was prescribed Procyclidine PRN to relieve muscle stiffness. It was extremely effective in relieving the "attacks" of muscle stiffness that I used to get, within about 15-20 minutes. Indirectly it also reduced my akathisia as well, although not to a great extent. Perhaps it would be more effective in that role taken regularly.

I did get some side effects, most notably a dry mouth & occasionally a mild headache but that was preferable to the extreme discomfort of the muscles of my back or jaw seizing up. In my books, it's certainly a worthwhile medication in its own right.
 
Chatative said:
For what use?

When I was on Abilify I was prescribed Procyclidine PRN to relieve muscle stiffness. It was extremely effective in relieving the "attacks" of muscle stiffness that I used to get, within about 15-20 minutes. Indirectly it also reduced my akathisia as well, although not to a great extent. Perhaps it would be more effective in that role taken regularly.

I did get some side effects, most notably a dry mouth & occasionally a mild headache but that was preferable to the extreme discomfort of the muscles of my back or jaw seizing up. In my books, it's certainly a worthwhile medication in its own right.
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Was forced Invega 5 and 6 weeks ago
 
Got all the symptoms of fellow posters plus a twitching right leg

Got a doctors appointment next week and was going to ask for l dopa
 
Whoa. I mean it's certainly not right if you were put on the medication and didn't have to be, but when you start adding other compounds to the mix, things can get pretty hairy.

I don't think any relatively professional doctor would prescribe l-dopa just because you're recovering from being on invega. Doing so is also playing right into the hands of the doctoral-pharmaceutical complex that a lot of us fear, if you will, in that symptoms are vigorously deadened by drugs, no matter if they have the potential to resolve through time/therapy.

Also, I've learned to never go to a psychiatry appointment set on what I want. What is then the point? It's a waste of time for both parties. You need to go to your appointment with an open mind, clearly explain how you are feeling, and yes, what your opinion on your medication is, but do what they suggest. They went to school for a long time to learn this stuff. To think that ten minutes of searching on wikipedia is better than that is, well, you know...

When you say "all the symptoms", can you be a bit more specific?

L-dopa has lots of potential negative side effects too.
 
Thanks for the reply Ho Chi Minh, but its more than 10 minutes research

And it will be my regular doctor who i ask for help recovering from this poison
The psych would have me on another shot aswell as mood stabilizers or abifly
Thankfully i'm out the hospital and able to recover from my cannabis and alcohol problem myself
Being forced 2 injections of invega and 1 of clopixol is criminal for getting to high
Why wait 6 months for the injections to wear off with no help ?
 
My understanding is invega binds to your dopaimane receptors and stops them working which results in the problems seen by fellow posteers
 
L-Dopa is a precursor to Dopamine and thus can cause psychosis that resembles that which you see in people suffering from Amphetamine induced psychosis as well as mood swings, mood changes, rarely weird out of character behavior such as people suddenly stealing things, increased libido, gambling, etc and with long term use it may cause down regulation of Dopamine. This and certain physical effects such as nausea, vomiting and gastrointestinal bleeding make it a drug not to be treated lightly. I personally would not risk it to offset the side effects if Invega as long term use can bring with it a whole fuckload of trouble.

What do you mean you where put on Invega and even given a IM shot of fucking Clopixol (which is supposed to be worse then Haldol according to a few people i know) for getting too high? What did you get too high on and what moron would give someone a anti-psychotic for anything but treatment of acute drug psychosis? If you where suffering from say Amphetamine psychosis then yes some Zyprexa Zydis or Zyprexa IM or even Thorazine/Largactil taken orally/IM often with Valium or Lorazepam IM as well would be the standard treatment. But that is just 1 dose to treat acute symptoms and one would have to be very unlucky to experience any long term symptoms from that. But someone being really stoned or high is not a indication for any anti-psychotic.
 
It seems the "dip" in my medication (Invega Sustenna) pulled back up... in other words, I thought I was seeing the last of the medications effects, but it seems it is trying to take over once again. A few details before I go on:
*I was on 117 mg of Invega Sustenna for about 8 months (monthly dose [every 28 days])
*I weighed in at 188lbs (85kg) when last dose was administered... now weigh 180lbs (81.6kg)
Yeah, so injection medication isn't a perfect science. (I'm gonna try and spare you guys the details about what I was able to do before being on injection medications...) It seemed every once in a while, while I was on Risperdal Consta (back in 2012), the medication would reach a low low dip where I could break through the "threshold" and ascend into altered states of consciousness (without the use of psychedelics). One time, I was in my room just dancing for an hour straight when all of a sudden I noticed I could see auras again. So strange... and I walked around the block with a friend that day, but only about 30 minutes passed before I was back to not even being able to imagine a fucking toothpick, no auras, nothing...

Now fast forward to a point which is comparable to the highest and lowest point in my life. At this point it's impossible to tell whether the medication will break it's steel grip on me, but I know that I will be able to act and function like I used to.
 
Hey Bad Robot,

Thanks for taking that in stride. I believe you.

The psychological effects of abilify might be a lot more tolerable than those of invega.

Yeah I'd definitely stay away from those.

All I can say to that is that recovery is a process that involves a lot hard work. All quick fixes are liable to set you back. There are things you can do to speed up recovery though.
 
just hold on. take your time and leave all chemicals behind. i don't mean psych medications either. i mean try to drink as much water as possible and eat right. exercise when you can and above all else do what you can within your limitations. that is one word and idea psychologists finally got right even though they don't understand they have yet...limitations. when you get sick from the flu and so do 3 other people you know, do you all get better all at once or does it stagger out by a few days. when you do drugs do you recover faster from uppers more than downers? some of you will heal more quickly than others, it is one of the natural parameters of life and being human. some will heal in a few months others in years. this is the truth...this medication was invented, created and distributed by people and as such it is a shame that we don't fully understand yet what we have invented like so many other medications. like the internet, this is one of the experiments of chaos in life we as a species have taken upon ourselves. don't get caught up in little details like half lives or anything else. just do what you can while you can and rest. whether it is legal or not it is still classified as a drug and should be treated as such. hope and daily life is what will ease your suffering. june 2010 first dose. june 2013 last dose and the days are still adding up. you are farther along the path of recovery now then when you first stopped taking it. no matter what, stay strong.
 
Ho-Chi-Minh said:
Hey Bad Robot,

Thanks for taking that in stride. I believe you.

The psychological effects of abilify might be a lot more tolerable than those of invega.

Yeah I'd definitely stay away from those.

All I can say to that is that recovery is a process that involves a lot hard work. All quick fixes are liable to set you back. There are things you can do to speed up recovery though.
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Doctor's appointment tomorrow, currently just taking procycledine 3 times a day for the parkinson like side effects
Not touched alcohol and weed in over a week
Force myself to exercise which helps
Hopefully my doctor can prescribe something new, not more A.P's
The treatment of drug induced pychosis is so wrong
 
you will. everything you just described is normal. whether you are doing drugs or not. your brain does those things constantly, its just that the older you get the more you focus on the conscious control in your head instead of letting yourself be in touch with that. some things you don't even notice until you are in a weakened point from stress or medication. those dips are going to be the key to let you personally, iridescent black, know when invega is finally out of you and the hold has finally let go. those times you cant tell if it will break its grip is not hope or loss there of, just your brain trying to fight off the grip. let it do what it does naturally and you will find in time it makes it easier once you recover. someone internally aware like you will be able to see auras again and other facets of the mind in time and with practice. btw my weight has fluctuated between 150 lbs. and 195 lbs for 5 years now and is slowly re-stabilizing. whatever your doing keep it up, and if something else comes along that helps use it too.
 
Thanks, invegauser. I'm afraid my loss of weight is kind of an after-effect of stress, but it seems my body is just trying to get to a healthy weight. I recently won an award and I kept feeling like so much was depending on me prior to the award ceremony. My award was actually for being the best success "case" that came out of the group home I stayed in between 2012 and 2013. I was revered as being somewhat of a guru for my insight that I shed on my peers as well as staff, which I have become good friends with since moving out. My life has changed so much and I'm actually quite thankful for this experience.
Anti-psychotics saved my life. If it wasn't for being hospitalized, I would have killed myself with the toxins I was putting into my body. I was in a pretty deep psychosis and it was the risperdal consta and then the invega sustenna that helped bring me out of it... but it's like a double edged sword.
 
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