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Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (paliperidone)
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Symbolicone09
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Please dont start a back and forth with notoinvega in this thread.... thiers alot of users including myself that are just trying to find awnsers about invega sustenna... its caused alot of problems for people in this thread
I'm not really sure, it's been two month since the haldol deconoate shot, my pdoc said it may take up to 2 months for the drug to leave the system. Is it in fact longer? Deconoate's half-life is 3 weeks. I was treated with it for depression, really for no good reason, against my will. Also I've noticed my testicles have shrunk a bit, the libido is not what it used to be and the orgasms are very weak physically and emotionally, with low ejaculate. I'm afraid it's because of the low test and it's permanent. Have you encountered anything like this and is it permanent? I also gained lot's of weight and feel very fatigued and tired all the time. I'm taking noopept and mirapex right now but they don't seem to help.
NOtoInvega
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They gave you haldol for DEPRESSION? That is evil. Haldol induces extreme depression.
You need a dopaminergic drug. If it is out of your system, your receptors are back. Now you just need to get them stimulated again. There are legal manoaminergics and Kratom would help you. In the mean time, I recommend studying the prophecies in the Bible. That has helped me a lot during my recovery time.
I would love if I were in your situation and not mine. I won't have this stuff out of my system for half a year. Anyways, I do not know how much of it could be permanent damage. I do know that you should not have much permanent damage, if any, and you will recover sooner than I will. The only way the damage to the brain becomes permanent is with long term (1 year +) use. That actually shrinks the brain.
SixBuckets
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I'm not very familiar with Haldol or its class, but some of the atypical antipsychotics increase prolactin levels. This can cause low libido and changes to external gonads. I don't know if Haldol does the same thing, but if it is prolactin related - don't worry, it's not permanent.
The weight gain happens on most antipsychotics, but some are more fatiguing than others.
Guys ,
I have been off Invega Sustenna for a year now , in two weeks itll be a year , and I have gained 35 kilos and lost all muscle , and I dont feel like my dopamine and serotonin etc have started flowing again , again I can operate , am functional , ,but my libido is gone too and I cant find a single doctor who will give me straight answer as to whether it ccan be fixed , I am in a third world country and all the doctors want is your money , I am on edge I have been patient , it has been a year and 8 months that my gonads hardly work , i was a gym freak for 9 years and now have become obese , but the nuts not working and shrinking thats got me down , my testosterone is 383 , the endo says they only treat low test if its under 300 , at my age 27 I should have 700 or 800 , some people have 950 , i no longer feel at all like a man , im destroyd on the inside , its killing me every single day , if only a doctor could tell me he can help , dont know what to do , thought id vent , anyone have any idea how i can help my libido ? i really wanted to fall in love ad have relationships , it was most important to me , and i killed myself my whole life to try and better myself with that sole purpose in mind , but now im wrecked and dont even want it , im essentially castrated feels like , saddening
I have been off Invega Sustenna for a year now , in two weeks itll be a year , and I have gained 35 kilos and lost all muscle , and I dont feel like my dopamine and serotonin etc have started flowing again , again I can operate , am functional , ,but my libido is gone too and I cant find a single doctor who will give me straight answer as to whether it ccan be fixed , I am in a third world country and all the doctors want is your money , I am on edge I have been patient , it has been a year and 8 months that my gonads hardly work , i was a gym freak for 9 years and now have become obese , but the nuts not working and shrinking thats got me down , my testosterone is 383 , the endo says they only treat low test if its under 300 , at my age 27 I should have 700 or 800 , some people have 950 , i no longer feel at all like a man , im destroyd on the inside , its killing me every single day , if only a doctor could tell me he can help , dont know what to do , thought id vent , anyone have any idea how i can help my libido ? i really wanted to fall in love ad have relationships , it was most important to me , and i killed myself my whole life to try and better myself with that sole purpose in mind , but now im wrecked and dont even want it , im essentially castrated feels like , saddening
Symbolicone09
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the injections have an incredibly long half life.. and it also takes the brain some time to return to nominal dopamine levels... in my case i had a terrible pdoc who though that along with olazapine i should be taking invega to help "balence my mood" he did not mention any side effects such as sexual dysfunction and insomnia .. but i trusted him blindly..... luckily going to a second pdoc was the best decision ive made as now i at least have a plan for getting rid of my problems... I will say this though i didnt have alot of these problems that i have until i had taken the invega injection and im glad my current pdoc reconizes this..
why would you agree to allow the injections if it wasnt court ordered? why not just take a nightly pill of invega that would of been the better choice therefore if you had these problems you could stop taking it and not have to wait so long for it to be out of your system.
i dont know about all these sexual dysfunction problems people have, i dont have any problems like that. ive experienced sexual dysfunction with anti depressants though. and as for the insomnia i dont get any of that either, you would think invega being an anti psychotic it would actually help you get to sleep since thats what they do, they slow you down.
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I didnt know that invega came in pill form... my first pdoc didnt mention it. I was totally misdiagnosed from my initial pdoc and i just regret going to him till this day.... but i learned my lesson and now i always do my research on everything..... im currently taking wellbultrin and its helping me be stable but im totally not the person i was before i took invega.
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any improvements? I'm not even 2 months out yet. I want this to go away. Btw I found that Kratom helps a bit. Might help u too. 4-6 months is such a long time when u feel like this. Worse than jail, I imagine. I hope I improve some before then. I'm completely non-functional right now. Every little task feels impossible.
I wonder if the people who market this stuff even feel the slightest bit of remorse. I feel bad for people court-ordered to take it. Their mental distress is bad enough already. Invega just destroys your life. Sorry about your psychiatrist recommending this stuff for treatment resistant depression. That really is like giving someone a powerful stim for treatment resistant insomnia. Just goes to show that you can't trust someone just because they are a "professional."
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well its been about 5 months since my last injection... anhedonia is still present though its not as extreme as when i first started taking invega... i definitely notice it everyday.... i guess i feel depressed in the sense that i feel empty and not really in tune with whats going on with reality... i dont feel sad however but its like my soul is sick or something.... i still have sexual issues that havent went away and i have low sexual arousal even though my testosterone levels are normal... i feel like my cognitive ability has gotten a little worse... im not sure if its like i have depersonalization but its like life doesnt feel natural and im actung slower then i use to.... basically life kinda sucks now but im still blessed with supporting family and friends and my job has allowed me to teliwork..... i can function but its like living a fulfilled live right now feels impossible. But hey i hope fully dont got that much longer to go before i return to normal
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I don't know about this poster's specific situation, but doctors generally prescribe the long acting injections if they have reasons to believe you won't adhere to an oral medication schedule.
yeah ive heard that, i have had the option to recieve the injection but i refused as i dont like needles. i think the doc said it was a monthly injection.
How long have you been on the meds? What you're writing is scary, I thought 5-6 months is the landmark for improvement.
Symbolicone09
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I was on the meds for 3 months... October 25th of 2014 was my last injection
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Thats another thing my current pdoc was wondering about as well.... i really have nasty feelings for my original pdoc.... i dont understand how someone can be so unprofessional.... it totally blew my mind when i did look up invega and found out its to treat schizophrenia smfh... i wish i could turn back time lol
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Well, I received 1 shot of Invega Sustenna (I forget the exact dosage) a little less than 3 months ago now. At first I felt terrible and did contemplate suicide and had severe anhedonia. I spent pretty much everyday sleeping/ resting all day long with absolutely no energy to do anything at all (physically or mentally). Then, very slowly my energy started to come back and noticed that I would push myself to read, write, and walk. During this time I started to take lots of Omega 3's which seemed to help my mind a little bit. But still I certainly wasn't even close to my full human potential. Next I started to experience severe side-effects including strange feelings in the mind and body, mild seizures, occasional loss of consciousness, milder anhedonia, restlessness, problems with concentrating, low blood pressure and fainting/falling, etc. It got so bad I had to go to the emergency room. Anyways, this sucked while it lasted, but then these side-effects began getting milder and milder with time. Now, 3 months later I still experience a bad restlessness, hard time concentrating and learning, strange thoughts, and sometimes I am unusually tired.
What has helped me get the symptoms to be less and less severe is the following:
-Taking lots of Omega 3's Daily
-Taking multiple Vitamin B supplements daily (Reduces prolactin levels in the brain causing one to be more alert and less depressed and lethargic)
-St John's Wort Daily (Helps increase dopamine levels in the brain, combatting anhedonia)
-Pushing myself to exercise when I have the energy
-Pushing myself to play piano, learn, read and write, even if its harder now...
-Meditation and tapping into Chi Energy in the three dan-tians (don't believe me? I don't really care. Just google it and try some exercises.)
-Listening to lots and lots and lots of electronic dance music and classical. (one for dopamine and the other for serotonin)
-Good diet
-Like i said, I still have some problems with restlessness, learning, concentration, and alertness... but I'm so much better than when I had the severe, severe anhedonia...
In conclusion: Time, effort to endure, and the methods I have listed seem to be the ticket for me.
but most importantly, find what your living for. It lies both within you and external to you, it just takes a good listener.
P.s Invega and all other harmful antipsychotic manufacturers and distributors(this includes doctors, psychiatrists, etc.) should be sued and sued hard. (Anyone know of any efforts?)
-Hope this helps
What has helped me get the symptoms to be less and less severe is the following:
-Taking lots of Omega 3's Daily
-Taking multiple Vitamin B supplements daily (Reduces prolactin levels in the brain causing one to be more alert and less depressed and lethargic)
-St John's Wort Daily (Helps increase dopamine levels in the brain, combatting anhedonia)
-Pushing myself to exercise when I have the energy
-Pushing myself to play piano, learn, read and write, even if its harder now...
-Meditation and tapping into Chi Energy in the three dan-tians (don't believe me? I don't really care. Just google it and try some exercises.)
-Listening to lots and lots and lots of electronic dance music and classical. (one for dopamine and the other for serotonin)
-Good diet
-Like i said, I still have some problems with restlessness, learning, concentration, and alertness... but I'm so much better than when I had the severe, severe anhedonia...
In conclusion: Time, effort to endure, and the methods I have listed seem to be the ticket for me.
but most importantly, find what your living for. It lies both within you and external to you, it just takes a good listener.
P.s Invega and all other harmful antipsychotic manufacturers and distributors(this includes doctors, psychiatrists, etc.) should be sued and sued hard. (Anyone know of any efforts?)
-Hope this helps
Hi guys ,
I dont know , I have been off Invega for one year and one month now , and I still feel horrible , but maybe this is because I have mineral deficiencies and am grossly overweight I have put on 40 kilos from taking Invega , I hate the people who forced it into me , I used to be such a nice person , now I just wish everyday I would die , anyway I dont know maybe its also because my balls have shrunk and dont work , they dont produce any sperm , or hardly , not even 1 percent of what it used to be a year and a half ago , I am 28 and watching everyone of my friends get married , have girlfriends , have fun with girls , all this was primordial to me , I am going to try and lose the weight and see what gives , but do you think my neural setup is back to normal ? I mean the depression and anhedonia should go away right , after a whole year being off the med ? I had no psychiatric problem going into the hospital and was put there because i committed a legal offense , I feel like Ill never be happy again , and that my only option is to kill myself , I already had a LOT of emotional hurt before they hospitalized me and its just too much now i cant deal thinking about it day in day out , i dont know how to deal with it , i m also alone and my parents hardly give a shit , friends dont want to be burdened with complaints theyre having too good of a time , im tired , i also have every low testsoterone , maybe that is why my balls dont work , it s 363 , dunno it used to be sky high , i dont feel like a man at all , i just want to die , im not even joking , but ill give it six months and excercise and continue eating right , dunno if i can lose the weight because i have a massive thyroid problem as well probably caused by the invega , i had zero problems till they gave that to me and then in 10 months i put on 20 kilos and now im up to 40 roughly , fuck my life , anyway ill try and lose the weight and naturally raise my testosterone , i am struggling so hard , even if i die and go to hell it ll be cake compare to this , in fact it would probably be a fucking joke compared to this , so ill give it a few months maybe a year , and if things dont improve , im going to have to put an end to this , i dont want to hurt my family but theyve hurt me my whole life so ..
I dont know , I have been off Invega for one year and one month now , and I still feel horrible , but maybe this is because I have mineral deficiencies and am grossly overweight I have put on 40 kilos from taking Invega , I hate the people who forced it into me , I used to be such a nice person , now I just wish everyday I would die , anyway I dont know maybe its also because my balls have shrunk and dont work , they dont produce any sperm , or hardly , not even 1 percent of what it used to be a year and a half ago , I am 28 and watching everyone of my friends get married , have girlfriends , have fun with girls , all this was primordial to me , I am going to try and lose the weight and see what gives , but do you think my neural setup is back to normal ? I mean the depression and anhedonia should go away right , after a whole year being off the med ? I had no psychiatric problem going into the hospital and was put there because i committed a legal offense , I feel like Ill never be happy again , and that my only option is to kill myself , I already had a LOT of emotional hurt before they hospitalized me and its just too much now i cant deal thinking about it day in day out , i dont know how to deal with it , i m also alone and my parents hardly give a shit , friends dont want to be burdened with complaints theyre having too good of a time , im tired , i also have every low testsoterone , maybe that is why my balls dont work , it s 363 , dunno it used to be sky high , i dont feel like a man at all , i just want to die , im not even joking , but ill give it six months and excercise and continue eating right , dunno if i can lose the weight because i have a massive thyroid problem as well probably caused by the invega , i had zero problems till they gave that to me and then in 10 months i put on 20 kilos and now im up to 40 roughly , fuck my life , anyway ill try and lose the weight and naturally raise my testosterone , i am struggling so hard , even if i die and go to hell it ll be cake compare to this , in fact it would probably be a fucking joke compared to this , so ill give it a few months maybe a year , and if things dont improve , im going to have to put an end to this , i dont want to hurt my family but theyve hurt me my whole life so ..
Dont end your life bro. Im going through this too man. Ive been off it 2 months now and have sexual dysfunction and am anhedonic as well. I too have suicidal feelings and dont know when this torture will end. Have you tried any drugs that would release dopamine. MAOIs or stimulants such as adderall or vivanse?
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