Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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After the 6 full month mark. Still coming off this wicked drug... Crying spells every day. Bones ache with toxicity. It's like I'm always crying, always cold. Always got the chills. Severely nauseous often. Vomited a bit. This is not right, this is fucked up, to still be feeling like this after 6 months. Do people EVER get better??? From this drug??? Seriously... 6 full months... and still feeling this debilitated. If I had to guess, I might be only halfway better, max. Still severely impaired. At 6. Full. (Fucking). Months. These pharmacists can go get fucked... fucking morons, idiots. I hate them strongly in my heart.

What are recent success stories like? So people say it takes at least 8-12 months for full recovery? Any success stories lately from 8 monthers or what not? Do some people not feel fully better until for like 2 years???? Fuck... Or what about that girl who was still having crying spells at 10 months?? This is really fucked up. I hate this drug and those people so much. Worst fucking thing that ever fucking happened to me. HATE.

Reply to my post, please, interested in what people have to say, their experiences. I'll try to post updates too when I'm at 10 months, 12, maybe even 24 months... God fucking dammit. HATE.
 
I say we get it together and get started on a class action lawsuit against them for this shit. Seriously. We deserve thousands of dollars for all this fucking shit those mother fuckers put us through. "Pharmacists"... get fucked. :X
 
I say we get it together and get started on a class action lawsuit against them for this shit. Seriously. We deserve thousands of dollars for all this fucking shit those mother fuckers put us through. "Pharmacists"... get fucked. :X

Post #33.. a sign! We should really do this.
 
I say we get it together and get started on a class action lawsuit against them for this shit. Seriously. We deserve thousands of dollars for all this fucking shit those mother fuckers put us through. "Pharmacists"... get fucked. :X

They made a lawsuit for something as 'petty' as males growing tits.. How about a lawsuit for a mother fucking lobotomy that they gave us???? Let's fucking do this... How about this. How does this sound. We each make some effort, call a lawyer, tell them the horror of what happened to you and your brain from this, and some smart lawyer will take us up on this, for he'll earn a sizable chunk of change. God, I had a much longer, motivational post written here, but it just got deleted by a forum error. Anyway, we have a DAMN FUCKING GOOD CASE. Make no mistake.
 
Still doing these push-ups, though I'm unable to manage 40 of them at this point. The poison I've pushed out of my arms seems to be affecting me quite a bit. I feel sickly, feverish, sluggish, nauseous, fatigued and a myriad of other things. Yeah, I'll just stick with however-many I can do a day at this point, skip days when I'm feeling too sickly and report back later.
 
I'm 9 months off and I've noticed significant improvements. I'm still tired during the day and sleep too much, but this might have become a habit which formed while the invega was stronger in my system...and now its tough to break. But it might still be the Invega playing a role.

Its not all bad. I can finally train martial arts again with moderate intensity. This is something I couldnt have imagined doing for like the first 6-7 months. I might even start being an uber driver to make some extra money on the side until I can start taking matches again to continue my pro martial arts career. When I feel good enough to take my next pro fight, thats when I'll know I'm fully recovered.

Also, I'm gonna try coming off of my mood stabilizer, Lamictal, to see if maybe that is what is still causing my daytime tiredness. Its possible that if I wasnt on that then I'd feel almost fully recovered. I've read alot of anecdotal reports about lamictal causing things like anhedonia and fatigue/tiredness. But I'll have to wait and find out. I'll keep everyone posted.

I just want to drive home the point that I feel a night and day difference from what I felt like at month 1 and now at month 9. So it DOES get better. Will people recover 100%? Only time will tell...but right now I at least feel like I'd be able to live a decent life if this was my new permanent baseline.
 
Also, I should add that the Adderall I am prescribed for ADHD has really helped make this whole experience much more bearable. I'm not sure how I would have gotten out of bed without it for the first few months. I don't really get an intense stimulant effect from it, with ADHD its more of a calm, happy focused feeling with a moderate amount of a stimulatory effect. But Adderall is prescribed off label to treat things like Major Depressive Disorder and Bipolar Depression. I have MDD and BP Type 1 and the Adderall (pre-Invega) almost completely got rid of my MDD.

It doesnt help the same with ADHD or MDD now that I have received an invega shot. The invega definitely overpowers it significantly. But it still helps a little. So it might be something worth talking to your docs about...assuming that most of your docs are writing this off as depression like mine is.

Im on wellbutrin too which MIGHT be helping with the sexual side effects invega causes. Idk for sure. But I know that every other med im on besides the wellbutrin (adderall, lamictal and lingering effects from an ssri and invega) negatively affects my libido. And yet, I have a pretty normal sex life in spite of all that. So for people suffering from the sexual sides from invega, maybe talking to your doc about wellbutrin could be a step in the right direction. Idk if it would or wouldnt help. Just wanted to throw that info out there and if it helps someone then great.
 
@NotAPsycho: you are correct it does induce symptoms of schizophrenia. i feel bad for anyone who has taken this medication and is suffering from it. i am choosing to recognize now those who don't have a mental illness, and/or that have been wrongly diagnosed and forced to take this poison without favoring you over those with a mental health issue. imho anyone who believes or thinks such a potent medication delivered as a time released injection lasting a month without an immediate relief alternative or "antidote" is a good idea in response to a temporary psychosis needs to reevaluate their protocol and findings. it is flagrantly irresponsible of someone who has intelligence, a higher learning and the trust of someone else's life in their hands and is happening all to frequently. i understand our human knowledge of such things are limited at this time in history but feel and think that it would be better to try a less final alternative. maybe administering a low dose anti anxiety med as is protocol here in the USA in emergency rooms for unknown causes of psychosis and a 48 hour to one week temporary hold in a safe environment? i am sure there are other alternatives i have not heard or thought about.
Pretty sure that is standard protocol here when someone is severely agitated. Along with a neuroleptic. There are also clinics which only administer the minimum dose for a person not to flip out anymore, letting the psychosis resolve by itself.

I honestly don't see the issue with neuroleptics as long as they are not administered against a person's will. Dosis facit venenum. All the schizophrenics and bipolar people I know (locally) are extremely grateful for these substances to be available. They have saved a lot of lives. A lot of the posts I see in this thread are clearly written by people who suffer schizophrenia. Leaving that untreated just doesn't work out very well in our society. Claiming neuroleptics cause symptoms of schizophrenia is just complete and utter nonsense (eventhough negative symptoms do overlap with side effects of neuroleptics to some degree). Some people are just unable and unwilling to reflect until they drown in their own shit. That is the nature of bipolar disorder and schizophrenia though I suppose.

Regarding the mandala effect not being a delusion because it didn't resolve itself on neuroleptics is not a sensible conclusion. These pharmaceuticals do not always work as desired. It can also take months for some really resistant delusions to resolve. I personally kept some delusions for over a year, e.g. suffering of a mycosis, causing me to go batshit in a dermatologist's praxis and convincing a psychiatrist to prescribe antimycotic drugs (my delusions can be extremely convincing and have infected countless people), another one was having my box hacked by evildoers when really there was no one snooping through my system at all. Both of these lasted many months, the first one only resolving very very slowly on neuroleptics.
 
I just don't understand how a neuroleptic can be so damaging/harmful and turn me into a shadow of what I used to be, months fly by with little to no improvement. It's such bullshit, I don't think dr's understand how dangerous paliperidone, I wish I was given heroin or crack for five months instead of Invega that's how bad I regret it. Atleast that would have resolved itself and I wouldn't be a permanent zombie like creature. it was my birthday last Saturday and I thought I would enjoy a few beers with great food but I don't get the same pleasure like I used to which is the worst thing. In a way it's my first birthday as a retard, no offence to anyone. i don't know what I'm expecting anymore, it's just that 'blurgh' feeling everyday, I don't feel hunger or happiness however I feel sadness and physically weak with a huge loss in muscle mass.
 
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I don't think these drugs help anyone. I don't think it even helps schizophrenics. You ever watch the movie a beautiful mind? The guy had schizophrenia and he didn't take the antipsychotics drugs he was prescribed unless he was forced to because he could see just how dangerous these drugs were. Also, he got better, without medication. The only schizophrenic to have lived a successful life was a schizophrenic who did not take medication. Coincidence? I don't think so.

I honestly believe the negative symptoms associated with schizophrenia, emotional flatness, cognitive distinction. Is all a result of the medication, and not a result of the Illness. We all took antipsychotic drugs and were all displaying the negative symptoms of schizophrenia, yet none of us were schizophrenic. There is no way this can be a coincidence, this is simply the drug doing it but psychiatrist attribute it to the illness because they want to sell the pills.
Lets be honest here. Psychiatry has never helped anyone, just gives brain Damage and that's it. It's so cruel how they give these drugs to children and then there messed up there whole life. They never even got a chance to enjoy life. Its so cruel. Also, look at all the psychiatric drugs that cause mass shooting. Whenever there is a school shooting, the person doing the shooting is always on an psychiatric drug, all these drugs do is cause harm to the person using a d the person around them. Psychiatry needs to be banned, as it is the most evil entity in the world.
Whoever thinks that psychiatric drugs can help ppl are brainwashed.
 
I don't think these drugs help anyone. I don't think it even helps schizophrenics. You ever watch the movie a beautiful mind? The guy had schizophrenia and he didn't take the antipsychotics drugs he was prescribed unless he was forced to because he could see just how dangerous these drugs were. Also, he got better, without medication. The only schizophrenic to have lived a successful life was a schizophrenic who did not take medication. Coincidence? I don't think so.

I honestly believe the negative symptoms associated with schizophrenia, emotional flatness, cognitive distinction. Is all a result of the medication, and not a result of the Illness. We all took antipsychotic drugs and were all displaying the negative symptoms of schizophrenia, yet none of us were schizophrenic. There is no way this can be a coincidence, this is simply the drug doing it but psychiatrist attribute it to the illness because they want to sell the pills.
Lets be honest here. Psychiatry has never helped anyone, just gives brain Damage and that's it. It's so cruel how they give these drugs to children and then there messed up there whole life. They never even got a chance to enjoy life. Its so cruel. Also, look at all the psychiatric drugs that cause mass shooting. Whenever there is a school shooting, the person doing the shooting is always on an psychiatric drug, all these drugs do is cause harm to the person using a d the person around them. Psychiatry needs to be banned, as it is the most evil entity in the world.
Whoever thinks that psychiatric drugs can help ppl are brainwashed.

Actually he took them for nine years, on and off then he stopped altogether.
 
I don't think these drugs help anyone. I don't think it even helps schizophrenics. You ever watch the movie a beautiful mind? The guy had schizophrenia and he didn't take the antipsychotics drugs he was prescribed unless he was forced to because he could see just how dangerous these drugs were. Also, he got better, without medication. The only schizophrenic to have lived a successful life was a schizophrenic who did not take medication. Coincidence? I don't think so.

I honestly believe the negative symptoms associated with schizophrenia, emotional flatness, cognitive distinction. Is all a result of the medication, and not a result of the Illness. We all took antipsychotic drugs and were all displaying the negative symptoms of schizophrenia, yet none of us were schizophrenic. There is no way this can be a coincidence, this is simply the drug doing it but psychiatrist attribute it to the illness because they want to sell the pills.
Lets be honest here. Psychiatry has never helped anyone, just gives brain Damage and that's it. It's so cruel how they give these drugs to children and then there messed up there whole life. They never even got a chance to enjoy life. Its so cruel. Also, look at all the psychiatric drugs that cause mass shooting. Whenever there is a school shooting, the person doing the shooting is always on an psychiatric drug, all these drugs do is cause harm to the person using a d the person around them. Psychiatry needs to be banned, as it is the most evil entity in the world.
Whoever thinks that psychiatric drugs can help ppl are brainwashed.

+1 Agreed! I'm thankful to be finally coming off these toxins. They aren't helpful at all and anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. I've been on them for six months now and if I continue a little longer, I'll be dead before I hit 50. Thank god my mother saw the dangers of antipsychotics and supported my case in course. I'm thankful that my psychosis was labelled a misdiagnosis.
 
Guys, to say Psychiatry has NEVER helped ANYONE is a broad, sweeping-generalization that simply is not true. I am firmly against neuroleptic use, especially long-acting ones, unless it is close to a life and death situation. That being said, I know some people, (my sister being one of them), who was helped significantly by the use of antidepressants (a psychiatric medication). There is a reason people sign themselves into psych hospitals voluntarily. A friend of mine battles suicidal thoughts on a daily basis and she has been in and out of the hospital 4 times. Whenever she feels like the SI is getting out of control she signs herself in. She said 3 out of the 4 hospitalizations helped her get better...at least temporarily..

Now I'm not saying Psychiatry is great, and I'm definitely the furthest thing from an advocate of antipsychotic use in the situations you guys have described in this thread. But lets not turn this thread into a 100% anti-med/anti-psychiatry thread. That will turn people away from it and may even deter some people from getting the help they need because they read all of these posts about psychiatry never helping anyone.

In sum, antipsychotics are extremely powerful meds that IMO should only be used in life or death situations when a person has a severe psychotic break. But even then I think they should be used in pill form for a short period of time. I was administered Abilify and Risperidone in pill form for about two weeks each, and when I discontinued them I returned to normal. The Invega shots are a whole different animal. But one "medicine" being comparable to a "poison" does not mean that every single psychiatric med is useless when it comes to helping patients. Venting is important. But bashing Psychiatry isn't going to help us recover quicker.

I keep telling you guys that 9 months off the Invega shot I have noticed SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS and that if this is my new baseline I could probably live a decent life. Try to focus on the glimmers of hope as much as you can and avoid that negative downward spiral. I know its hard, believe me I do. But taking your own life is never the answer and you can't change the past. So all we can do is move forward and try to help each other get better.
 
Anyone who says invega doesn't cause symptoms of schizophrenia is calling everyone that's posted on this forum a liar, and is under the doctor's spell. That's exactly what they want you to think. Sometimes the truth is a hard pill to swallow, so to speak.

Anyone can go through psychosis, for a number of reasons. It doesn't mean you have a mental illness, or you're predisposed. It just means you have to make a change. Do something different. And a simple sedative can release you from psychotic state. There's no need for overdosing people with dangerous AP's.

I swear, if the purge was reality, doctors would be my first target.
 
Anyone who says invega doesn't cause symptoms of schizophrenia is calling everyone that's posted on this forum a liar, and is under the doctor's spell. That's exactly what they want you to think. Sometimes the truth is a hard pill to swallow, so to speak.

Anyone can go through psychosis, for a number of reasons. It doesn't mean you have a mental illness, or you're predisposed. It just means you have to make a change. Do something different. And a simple sedative can release you from psychotic state. There's no need for overdosing people with dangerous AP's.

I swear, if the purge was reality, doctors would be my first target.

Antipsychotics are hell on earth!
 
Anyone who says invega doesn't cause symptoms of schizophrenia is calling everyone that's posted on this forum a liar, and is under the doctor's spell. That's exactly what they want you to think. Sometimes the truth is a hard pill to swallow, so to speak.

Anyone can go through psychosis, for a number of reasons. It doesn't mean you have a mental illness, or you're predisposed. It just means you have to make a change. Do something different. And a simple sedative can release you from psychotic state. There's no need for overdosing people with dangerous AP's.

I swear, if the purge was reality, doctors would be my first target.


Really? Doctors would be your first choice? What about all the turrrrrists? 'Murica
 
Guys, to say Psychiatry has NEVER helped ANYONE is a broad, sweeping-generalization that simply is not true. I am firmly against neuroleptic use, especially long-acting ones, unless it is close to a life and death situation. That being said, I know some people, (my sister being one of them), who was helped significantly by the use of antidepressants (a psychiatric medication). There is a reason people sign themselves into psych hospitals voluntarily. A friend of mine battles suicidal thoughts on a daily basis and she has been in and out of the hospital 4 times. Whenever she feels like the SI is getting out of control she signs herself in. She said 3 out of the 4 hospitalizations helped her get better...at least temporarily..

Now I'm not saying Psychiatry is great, and I'm definitely the furthest thing from an advocate of antipsychotic use in the situations you guys have described in this thread. But lets not turn this thread into a 100% anti-med/anti-psychiatry thread. That will turn people away from it and may even deter some people from getting the help they need because they read all of these posts about psychiatry never helping anyone.

In sum, antipsychotics are extremely powerful meds that IMO should only be used in life or death situations when a person has a severe psychotic break. But even then I think they should be used in pill form for a short period of time. I was administered Abilify and Risperidone in pill form for about two weeks each, and when I discontinued them I returned to normal. The Invega shots are a whole different animal. But one "medicine" being comparable to a "poison" does not mean that every single psychiatric med is useless when it comes to helping patients. Venting is important. But bashing Psychiatry isn't going to help us recover quicker.

I keep telling you guys that 9 months off the Invega shot I have noticed SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS and that if this is my new baseline I could probably live a decent life. Try to focus on the glimmers of hope as much as you can and avoid that negative downward spiral. I know its hard, believe me I do. But taking your own life is never the answer and you can't change the past. So all we can do is move forward and try to help each other get better.

Given how these drugs have all these horrible effects to me it seems the benefits don't outweigh the risk. Maybe it helps a few people, but does anyone honestly need psychiatric drugs? Can't these ppl get better without these drugs? Like if your depressed, your depressed for a reason, low amount of friends, no girlfriend, death in a family. There is a reason your depressed, it may not be a good feeling to feel depressed buy if your feelings depressed your body is telling you to do something about it. Drugs are not the answer, if someone is depressed and is smoking weed to cope we look at them negatively. Yet of taking an antidepressant its like. Good for them, there doing something to help them. Taking a drug is t working to help yourself. It's the quick and easy way out

Psychiatry is a scam, they create all these "mental illnesses" like add, and ADHD, and all those symptoms is are ppl that are hyperactive or something along that nature. How is that a mental illness? Then we give them these drugs claiming it will make them better, yet I don't know if it does. Like sure it probably "calms them down", aka, slows down there brain and cognitive ability, but that only helps the teacher who is pissed off at having a hyperactive student as opposed to helping the kid themself. Did the ADD kid ever think he had a mental illness? No he and his parents just pushed it on the parents because there annoyed, also the school gets money when there students are on these meds, cause it's considered they have a disability. Talk about conflict of interest! The fact that all you guys were given this invega shot for many different reasons supports the fact they just want u on a drug and not that there curing a particular illness. How come there giving this same drug to a person has anxiety, was experiencing psychosis or was being violent. You don't give the same medicine for completely different illnesses, whats up with that? Also, do you notice all these symptoms were displaying are not even listed as side effects of the medication yet we have experienced it? Why is that? How does that make any sense.
All I can say is, taking this antipsychotic drug was the BIGGEST mistake of my life. I didn't even want the drug, I saw a psych he asksd if I ant prescription and I told him I dont want medication. I come again and he bothers me again about same thing. Which this time I decided to take. Also lets not forget that he lied about how the drug works to me, and he lied hez giving me a small dose, and he also said my condition will get worse if I don't take it. Even though I repeatedly told him I am gettibg better with time. I just need to lay off the weed. However the psychiatrist number one priority is not to do what is best for me, it is to get me on a drug. While I was on it he didn't even monitor me asking about side effects on it or anything, I was telling him im experiencing side effects and he just brushed it off and told me to keep taking it. Besides that he was turning my parents against me telling me I HAVE to take the drug. The guy also wanted me to take for 6 months even though I wasn't experiencing psychosis anymore, which makes absolutely no sense to me.
Seriously, I just think the world would be a better place without psychiatry as a profession existing.
 
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I just don't understand how a neuroleptic can be so damaging/harmful and turn me into a shadow of what I used to be, months fly by with little to no improvement. It's such bullshit, I don't think dr's understand how dangerous paliperidone, I wish I was given heroin or crack for five months instead of Invega that's how bad I regret it. Atleast that would have resolved itself and I wouldn't be a permanent zombie like creature. it was my birthday last Saturday and I thought I would enjoy a few beers with great food but I don't get the same pleasure like I used to which is the worst thing. In a way it's my first birthday as a retard, no offence to anyone. i don't know what I'm expecting anymore, it's just that 'blurgh' feeling everyday, I don't feel hunger or happiness however I feel sadness and physically weak with a huge loss in muscle mass.
First off happy belated birthday.. I also have a birthday coming up in July and I know it's going be the worst one of my life because of invega sustenna.. I no longer have friends to share it with because I have been forced to quit my job and drop out of school because of this poison. I do not have the ability to go out and celebrate because like you I don't have any feelings anymore, nor the mental capacity to enjoy what should be a special day with family and friends. I am 25 years old and used to live a normal life filled with laughter, joy, work and exercise that is all gone now.. I am 3 months in sense my 2 shots and i feel terrible, I hope someday that we can all recover to how we were pre invega, but that all seems to be a fantasy right now..
 
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