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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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I just don't know if he should be on some other drug or will he return to normal. He was diagnosed as schizophrenic but used to smoke a lot of pot but not anymore. I feel so bad for all of you suffering from the shot. I am afraid if he is hospitalized, he will get the shot.
 
@Lmr

So is your son currently taking the invega pills or no? You said these anger outbursts started after he quit taking it, correct? If thats the case then maybe what he needs is a mood stabilizer. They aren't as harsh on the mind and body as antipsychotics. They do come with some negative side effects but it shouldnt be anywhere near those experienced on invega. Although in a perfect world he wouldnt have to be on any meds. The sad truth is that some people do need them :/
 
He may have been diagnosed schizophrenic after experiencing a drug induced psychosis. So, if the psychosis is gone and he no longer uses the drug then he mighy not exhibit symptoms of schizophrenia anymore. However, I read that once a psychotic break occurs from a drug then that person is more susceptible to going into another psychosis in the future. At least when using the drug that caused the previous psychosis. But sometimes even without drug abuse. Are you sure he isnt taking any other drugs?
 
I agree with with what koz26 has said, I had my first psychotic break 5 years ago due to cannabis misuse and recovered but then I started abusing it again and relapsed into another episode last year so I'm definately more susceptible. Any form of drug use has insidious affects for certain individuals, I wish I never began smoking pot it's led me to Invega which has destroyed me as a man, I don't understand how I've had barely any impovement 4 months without Invega. Does anybody else feel impotent, or a dumbed down version of themselves or suffer from lacking physical strength? I feel like a lower species, it's fucked up.
 
Invegaman said:
I agree with with what koz26 has said, I had my first psychotic break 5 years ago due to cannabis misuse and recovered but then I started abusing it again and relapsed into another episode last year so I'm definately more susceptible. Any form of drug use has insidious affects for certain individuals, I wish I never began smoking pot it's led me to Invega which has destroyed me as a man, I don't understand how I've had barely any impovement 4 months without Invega. Does anybody else feel impotent, or a dumbed down version of themselves or suffer from lacking physical strength? I feel like a lower species, it's fucked up.
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impotent indeed. lack of physical strenght also. I had watery semen and erectile disfunction but no more. still lacking libido and anorgasmia. lack of motivation a bit. And anedonia is slowly going away, I can watch more movies than before. before I wouldnt watch them.
My biggest problem is lack of libido and anorgasmia.
 
He quit taking invega in May I believe. Yes all of the anger has come back since he quit. He wasn't like this when he was on the invega but of course he wasn't himself either. He quit going to the doctor too. What mood stabilizers are the best? I just wish I knew if he is truly schizophrenic or if it was pot induced. He doesn't smoke pot anymore but did heavily in his teens and early 20's. I never knew invega was bad for you until I found this sight.
 
Lmr said:
He quit taking invega in May I believe. Yes all of the anger has come back since he quit. He wasn't like this when he was on the invega but of course he wasn't himself either. He quit going to the doctor too. What mood stabilizers are the best? I just wish I knew if he is truly schizophrenic or if it was pot induced. He doesn't smoke pot anymore but did heavily in his teens and early 20's. I never knew invega was bad for you until I found this sight.
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Well if I had to take a guess I'd say he most likely had a pot-induced psychosis. Schizoprenia is a pretty rare mental illness/medical condition to have, especially if there is no prior family history of it. A pot-induced psychosis, while not extremely common, is more likely to occur if people are abusing the drug. And if he was abusing it, the likelihood of psychosis goes way up. Much higher than the chances of him experiencing the onset of schizophrenia, in my opinion. I'm not a doctor, but I do have a degree in psych so I know the onset of SZ is quite rare. Psychosis from drug abuse, not so much.

As far as mood stabilizers go, I'm on lamictal. I have tried lithium and depakote and lamictal is my favorite of the 3. Although i dont really like lamictal either. Its just like the lesser of the 3 evils. Lithium makes me feel emotially blunted and depakote goves me an almost insatiable appetite.

If he quits pot and doesnt use any other drugs for awhile, but still experiences symptoms of schizophrenia, then that's one way to find out whether or not you're just dealing with side-effects from a drug or a medical condition. Has he been experiencing auditory and visual hallucinations or just anger outbursts?
 
Lmr said:
He quit taking invega in May I believe. Yes all of the anger has come back since he quit. He wasn't like this when he was on the invega but of course he wasn't himself either. He quit going to the doctor too. What mood stabilizers are the best? I just wish I knew if he is truly schizophrenic or if it was pot induced. He doesn't smoke pot anymore but did heavily in his teens and early 20's. I never knew invega was bad for you until I found this sight.
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It's possible your son is having withdrawal, she. You quit cold turkey your body reacts strangely bcus its used to having the drug in the body. Maybe taper him off?
 
Hey folks ! How are u'all ?

I would just like to mention that Invega is doing a bad job at fucking up people minds! Because mine has just recovered! I was on tablets from March 2015, and just stop by my own decision this March 2016.

So far so good, I am going out with my friends, drinking beer, having a lot of laughts and long conversations during all night long. Sadly I can't smoke with them again, but it's okay, I can handle it, I keep the cigars :)

My motivation is back, I am starting to going to concerts, going out to watch football match... this saturday I will go on a lunch with a new girl I will meet. So things are going happy and smooth :D

I can easly watch a movie, without losing the whole script while reading the subtitles, this is amazing! (I couldn't do it before)

And I already lost around 6% of fat mass and gain around 8% of muscle mass (sadly the weight is the same), so far this is amazing :D

This was last saturday dawn, after a night of a big concert and then a long covnersation with a friend talking about my psychotic blackout :)

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I was gazed at this sunrise while listening to some Pink Floyd tune, Shine On You Crazy Diamong :D

What about BadRobot? I don't read from him for a while...
 
Koz26 said:
Well if I had to take a guess I'd say he most likely had a pot-induced psychosis. Schizoprenia is a pretty rare mental illness/medical condition to have, especially if there is no prior family history of it. A pot-induced psychosis, while not extremely common, is more likely to occur if people are abusing the drug. And if he was abusing it, the likelihood of psychosis goes way up. Much higher than the chances of him experiencing the onset of schizophrenia, in my opinion. I'm not a doctor, but I do have a degree in psych so I know the onset of SZ is quite rare. Psychosis from drug abuse, not so much.

As far as mood stabilizers go, I'm on lamictal. I have tried lithium and depakote and lamictal is my favorite of the 3. Although i dont really like lamictal either. Its just like the lesser of the 3 evils. Lithium makes me feel emotially blunted and depakote goves me an almost insatiable appetite.

If he quits pot and doesnt use any other drugs for awhile, but still experiences symptoms of schizophrenia, then that's one way to find out whether or not you're just dealing with side-effects from a drug or a medical condition. Has he been experiencing auditory and visual hallucinations or just anger outbursts?
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He has never had auditory or visual hallucinations as far as I know. Just says a lot of things that don't make sense. His text messages make no sense. They are filled with accusations and anger. He hasn't used pot for long time as far as I know.
 
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It's possible your son is having withdrawal, she. You quit cold turkey your body reacts strangely bcus its used to having the drug in the body. Maybe taper him off?
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He said he tapered it. I doubt that he did it correctly. He lives alone and I have no control over his medicine. He doesn't like his parents to know a lot of what is going on. What is strange is that he came to our house last Saturday and was quite normal. I hadn't seem like that in a long time. But 2 days later is when he came to our house in a rage.
 
Week 42 off the poison
Thats six half lifes, wow what a journey. I think I'm recovered. Started to get more active and have cleaned my house from top to bottom and got all diy jobs done. Started slowly just doing an hour a day and built it up. Been exercising for the last week doing an hours walking a day and its not horrible. I think in another half life I'll be 100% recovered. Just feel slightly slower than before, but I'm not worrying about that and can feel my motivation, ambition and confidence returning.
Well done on your recovery mister T, i still check in on the thread, but I'm not constantly dwelling on this experience anymore and am trying to rebuild my life, the bitterness is going towards the doctors incompetance and the coruptness of big pharma, one day this scandal will be discovered and made public.
Anyways people keep battling the poison, there's light at the end of the tunnel, you will recover, its all here in this thread.
 
Antipsychotics are no good. They cause brain shrinkage and the loss of grey matter. My brain has shrunk from where it was before and my memory has worsened. I'll finally be off this month, wish me luck everyone.
 
MisterTi said:
Hey folks ! How are u'all ?

I would just like to mention that Invega is doing a bad job at fucking up people minds! Because mine has just recovered! I was on tablets from March 2015, and just stop by my own decision this March 2016.

So far so good, I am going out with my friends, drinking beer, having a lot of laughts and long conversations during all night long. Sadly I can't smoke with them again, but it's okay, I can handle it, I keep the cigars :)

My motivation is back, I am starting to going to concerts, going out to watch football match... this saturday I will go on a lunch with a new girl I will meet. So things are going happy and smooth :D

I can easly watch a movie, without losing the whole script while reading the subtitles, this is amazing! (I couldn't do it before)

And I already lost around 6% of fat mass and gain around 8% of muscle mass (sadly the weight is the same), so far this is amazing :D

This was last saturday dawn, after a night of a big concert and then a long covnersation with a friend talking about my psychotic blackout :)

53b975e424.jpg


I was gazed at this sunrise while listening to some Pink Floyd tune, Shine On You Crazy Diamong :D

What about BadRobot? I don't read from him for a while...
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Hey man, wish me luck too! I'm coming off this month.
 
Invegaman said:
I agree with with what koz26 has said, I had my first psychotic break 5 years ago due to cannabis misuse and recovered but then I started abusing it again and relapsed into another episode last year so I'm definately more susceptible. Any form of drug use has insidious affects for certain individuals, I wish I never began smoking pot it's led me to Invega which has destroyed me as a man, I don't understand how I've had barely any impovement 4 months without Invega. Does anybody else feel impotent, or a dumbed down version of themselves or suffer from lacking physical strength? I feel like a lower species, it's fucked up.
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That is exactly how I feel I can't do anything anymore i can barely get out of bed and I stopped taking this poison 3 1/2 months ago and I only had the 234mg loading shot and 156mg starting dose. Did you have to quit your job? I did because I can't function at all physically or mentally, I can't exercise anymore either when I used to 5 times a week. I don't feel like the same person down to the cellular level.
 
Who else feels like they don't have a life anymore. Because I fucking feel like i no longer have a life anymore.
 
@ invegasucks

I had to quit my job and claim disability benefits, I'm 25 and living at home. I even have a social worker who helps comes around for meetings since I left the hospital, I can't emphasise the extent to which Invega has fucked me over, it's side effects are potently evil. For anyone that watches game of thrones it has me feeling like theon greyjoy. I drink a couple of beers now and again but i don't get a pleasurable buzz like I used too which is a shame I have continuous suicide thoughts that's because I'm so self critical and compared to how I used to be this new me is a joke. I wish I was given the pill form instead then maybe that would have been the difference in recovery but it's all just speculation now, in this, here moment my life's a disappointment.
 
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@ invegasucks

I had to quit my job and claim disability benefits, I'm 25 and living at home. I even have a social worker who helps comes around for meetings since I left the hospital, I can't emphasise the extent to which Invega has fucked me over, it's side effects are potently evil. For anyone that watches game of thrones it has me feeling like theon greyjoy. I drink a couple of beers now and again but i don't get a pleasurable buzz like I used too which is a shame I have continuous suicide thoughts that's because I'm so self critical and compared to how I used to be this new me is a joke. I wish I was given the pill form instead then maybe that would have been the difference in recovery but it's all just speculation now, in this, here moment my life's a disappointment.
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Don't forget that this medication shrinks our brains.
 
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