Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

[mura_yom_invegasucks]

Are you around? I left my discord for you in the last message

Yeah I’ll call

 

[Serhat]

>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 Month UPDATE <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<​

So guys it's been 7 months now since Ive stopped the injection, last time I had it was 16/12/2022. It's been a bumpy ride for me but in general I do feel like im recovering, Akathisia is gone upto 80/90%. Anhedonia is still abit here but way better than before I would say about 60% gone for anhedonia. Sexual dysfunction/libido about 70-80% recovered. Still there's improvment left to become my former self (Pre-invega self). Im not doing too bad my weight is healthy about 69kg, 5ft10. My Emotions are back 80% Im able to cry get emotional feel sympathy one of my uncles passed away last week at the age of 84 I felt quite sad about it. RIP to him may he be in a better place now. Long story short I am recovering even after 10 injections. But theres still some side effects that still persist such as orthostatic hypertension, when I standup from a lying position I feel abit dizzy generally goes away when I sit back down or it goes away after 5-10 seconds of standing up but does feel weird as if im going to faint not sure if this is permanent but this is the one of the side effect thats interfering with my daily living. None-the-less, recovery is ongoing I would say give a take another 6-8 months to become my pre-invega self hoping I dont get psychosis by then, or their willl be no point in recovering if Im just going to fall back on the injection and I know most of you guys feel like this too.

I'm one of the few people here who has taken 10 injections most of you guys have taken 1 or 2 injection I understand the severity of 1 injection is equivalent to 10. But I suffered for longer I was on the injection for about nearly 1 year. So if you are worried that you wont get better after 1 or 2 injections, put yourself in my shoes and think for a second if I had 10 injections and I feel good now then why wouldnt you from 1 injection or even better? It's been a long journey for most of us and for those who are new here if you want to recover from the devastating side effects that we werent told about before going on this medication, you need to take it one day at a time and have some patience don't do anything drastic just remember you wont be like this forever eventually you medication wears off you become your old self sooner or later or atleast 90% recover which is good enough to live on. Goodluck all and I wish you all the patience while recovering from emotions, anhedonia, akathisia depression & so on.

 

[Robchanna]

>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 Month UPDATE <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<​

So guys it's been 7 months now since Ive stopped the injection, last time I had it was 16/12/2022. It's been a bumpy ride for me but in general I do feel like im recovering, Akathisia is gone upto 80/90%. Anhedonia is still abit here but way better than before I would say about 60% gone for anhedonia. Sexual dysfunction/libido about 70-80% recovered. Still there's improvment left to become my former self (Pre-invega self). Im not doing too bad my weight is healthy about 69kg, 5ft10. My Emotions are back 80% Im able to cry get emotional feel sympathy one of my uncles passed away last week at the age of 84 I felt quite sad about it. RIP to him may he be in a better place now. Long story short I am recovering even after 10 injections. But theres still some side effects that still persist such as orthostatic hypertension, when I standup from a lying position I feel abit dizzy generally goes away when I sit back down or it goes away after 5-10 seconds of standing up but does feel weird as if im going to faint not sure if this is permanent but this is the one of the side effect thats interfering with my daily living. None-the-less, recovery is ongoing I would say give a take another 6-8 months to become my pre-invega self hoping I dont get psychosis by then, or their willl be no point in recovering if Im just going to fall back on the injection and I know most of you guys feel like this too.

I'm one of the few people here who has taken 10 injections most of you guys have taken 1 or 2 injection I understand the severity of 1 injection is equivalent to 10. But I suffered for longer I was on the injection for about nearly 1 year. So if you are worried that you wont get better after 1 or 2 injections, put yourself in my shoes and think for a second if I had 10 injections and I feel good now then why wouldnt you from 1 injection or even better? It's been a long journey for most of us and for those who are new here if you want to recover from the devastating side effects that we werent told about before going on this medication, you need to take it one day at a time and have some patience don't do anything drastic just remember you wont be like this forever eventually you medication wears off you become your old self sooner or later or atleast 90% recover which is good enough to live on. Goodluck all and I wish you all the patience while recovering from emotions, anhedonia, akathisia depression & so on.

Did you recover gradually or instantly

 

[RiccardoLL!]

>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 Month UPDATE <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<​

So guys it's been 7 months now since Ive stopped the injection, last time I had it was 16/12/2022. It's been a bumpy ride for me but in general I do feel like im recovering, Akathisia is gone upto 80/90%. Anhedonia is still abit here but way better than before I would say about 60% gone for anhedonia. Sexual dysfunction/libido about 70-80% recovered. Still there's improvment left to become my former self (Pre-invega self). Im not doing too bad my weight is healthy about 69kg, 5ft10. My Emotions are back 80% Im able to cry get emotional feel sympathy one of my uncles passed away last week at the age of 84 I felt quite sad about it. RIP to him may he be in a better place now. Long story short I am recovering even after 10 injections. But theres still some side effects that still persist such as orthostatic hypertension, when I standup from a lying position I feel abit dizzy generally goes away when I sit back down or it goes away after 5-10 seconds of standing up but does feel weird as if im going to faint not sure if this is permanent but this is the one of the side effect thats interfering with my daily living. None-the-less, recovery is ongoing I would say give a take another 6-8 months to become my pre-invega self hoping I dont get psychosis by then, or their willl be no point in recovering if Im just going to fall back on the injection and I know most of you guys feel like this too.

I'm one of the few people here who has taken 10 injections most of you guys have taken 1 or 2 injection I understand the severity of 1 injection is equivalent to 10. But I suffered for longer I was on the injection for about nearly 1 year. So if you are worried that you wont get better after 1 or 2 injections, put yourself in my shoes and think for a second if I had 10 injections and I feel good now then why wouldnt you from 1 injection or even better? It's been a long journey for most of us and for those who are new here if you want to recover from the devastating side effects that we werent told about before going on this medication, you need to take it one day at a time and have some patience don't do anything drastic just remember you wont be like this forever eventually you medication wears off you become your old self sooner or later or atleast 90% recover which is good enough to live on. Goodluck all and I wish you all the patience while recovering from emotions, anhedonia, akathisia depression & so on.

I tried to read some of your old post to see what symptoms you had but couldn't find much about speed of tought and ability to conversate, social skills in general, that's my biggest concern right now... Can you tell me more about these points? How bad was it and how did it improve? Also memory... Thank u

 

[Robchanna]

>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 Month UPDATE <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<​

So guys it's been 7 months now since Ive stopped the injection, last time I had it was 16/12/2022. It's been a bumpy ride for me but in general I do feel like im recovering, Akathisia is gone upto 80/90%. Anhedonia is still abit here but way better than before I would say about 60% gone for anhedonia. Sexual dysfunction/libido about 70-80% recovered. Still there's improvment left to become my former self (Pre-invega self). Im not doing too bad my weight is healthy about 69kg, 5ft10. My Emotions are back 80% Im able to cry get emotional feel sympathy one of my uncles passed away last week at the age of 84 I felt quite sad about it. RIP to him may he be in a better place now. Long story short I am recovering even after 10 injections. But theres still some side effects that still persist such as orthostatic hypertension, when I standup from a lying position I feel abit dizzy generally goes away when I sit back down or it goes away after 5-10 seconds of standing up but does feel weird as if im going to faint not sure if this is permanent but this is the one of the side effect thats interfering with my daily living. None-the-less, recovery is ongoing I would say give a take another 6-8 months to become my pre-invega self hoping I dont get psychosis by then, or their willl be no point in recovering if Im just going to fall back on the injection and I know most of you guys feel like this too.

I'm one of the few people here who has taken 10 injections most of you guys have taken 1 or 2 injection I understand the severity of 1 injection is equivalent to 10. But I suffered for longer I was on the injection for about nearly 1 year. So if you are worried that you wont get better after 1 or 2 injections, put yourself in my shoes and think for a second if I had 10 injections and I feel good now then why wouldnt you from 1 injection or even better? It's been a long journey for most of us and for those who are new here if you want to recover from the devastating side effects that we werent told about before going on this medication, you need to take it one day at a time and have some patience don't do anything drastic just remember you wont be like this forever eventually you medication wears off you become your old self sooner or later or atleast 90% recover which is good enough to live on. Goodluck all and I wish you all the patience while recovering from emotions, anhedonia, akathisia depression & so on.

When could you feel weed? Did it come back to you?

 

[Baddream]

When could you feel weed? Did it come back to you?

Not everybody here smokes weed. Serhat is pro sobriety. Respect.

I smoked some hash this summer. I felt the effect. Especially when combined with alcohol. Tolerance is decreasing but slowly. Not full euphoria yet but I feel altered. Definitely wouldn’t drive a car in that state. Lasts for about 20 minutes or so.

I feel like I shouldn’t be writing this kind of stuff anymore in order to not enable people. I get why some are worried about not ever being able to feel high/drunk, to me it would pretty much be a disaster, but at one point we have to just take the information out there already and stop asking the same questions over and over.

Some people recover this ability fully, some partially, some don’t. That’s the only conclusion you’ll get. No amount of research is gonna change that. You just have to wait and see what the outcome will be for you personally. If you are seeing even slight progress, that’s a good sign.

Stay strong

 

[Baddream]

An addendum to what I wrote above is that I deep down believe that everybody (100% of patients) recover everything in time, or at least 90% of abilities.

Also, I strongly believe those that don’t (never) recover are psyching themselves out with their negative mindset.

 

[lurker689]

An addendum to what I wrote above is that I deep down believe that everybody (100% of patients) recover everything in time, or at least 90% of abilities.

Also, I strongly believe those that don’t (never) recover are psyching themselves out with their negative mindset.

If they never recovered how are they payching out their negative mindset? They have all the right to be negative!

 

[Serhat]

Did you recover gradually or instantly

It was gradually, its impossible for you to recover instantly it was over days weeks and months slowly bit by bit.

I tried to read some of your old post to see what symptoms you had but couldn't find much about speed of tought and ability to conversate, social skills in general, that's my biggest concern right now... Can you tell me more about these points? How bad was it and how did it improve? Also memory... Thank u

I felt very stupid while being on invega, I couldnt explain myself properly or form good conversations, I didnt have much to say its like invega has effected my ability to communicate in someway but now its abit better, I can talk form conversations and go into deep chats with people, just like how I use to before invega. Didnt really have any memory problems while being on invega or after so cant say much about that.

When could you feel weed? Did it come back to you?

Don't smoke weed, wouldnt know.

 

[InvegaAnon]

Has anyone tried THC lube for sexual dysfunction? Would it work?

 

[Baddream]

If they never recovered how are they payching out their negative mindset? They have all the right to be negative!

I believe it’s in their mind that they haven’t recovered, when in reality they have.

I think some people trick themselves into believing they are still not recovered, because they’re mindset is always negative.

We are only as healthy as we allow ourselves to be sometimes. Negative people have a tendency to drag themselves down.

Some people are simply hypocondriacs.

 

[lurker689]

I believe it’s in their mind that they haven’t recovered, when in reality they have.

I think some people trick themselves into believing they are still not recovered, because they’re mindset is always negative.

We are only as healthy as we allow ourselves to be sometimes. Negative people have a tendency to drag themselves down.

Some people are simply hypocondriacs.

Nah. If people think negatively it's because they are still feeling bad, let's be realistic here. You can't control reality with your mind.

 

[Serhat]

Nah. If people think negatively it's because they are still feeling bad, let's be realistic here. You can't control reality with your mind.

According to quantum scientists, reality originates in our ideas. Every sensation we have is the result of thinking energy. Furthermore, the communal awareness links us all together. This is nothing more than an energy field that manifests reality in response to feelings and thoughts. The power of the human mind is immense; it has the capacity to draw in and produce countless realities. Unfortunately, many of us have chaotic, scattered minds that limit even seemingly insignificant things.

 

[Baddream]

Nah. If people think negatively it's because they are still feeling bad, let's be realistic here. You can't control reality with your mind.

I am being realistic. Don’t forget that these people were mentally ill to begin with. I agree with what Serhat just explained above. A positive mindset is detrimental to our health and wellbeing. If you keep bumming yourself out thinking you have permanent side effects, you will go through life with that outlook and hence, never heal. The way we think has a huge impact, there is plenty of literature on this.

It’s like hypocondriaism, I don’t know if it’s exactly the same, but some people have a keen ability to convince themselves they are ill when in fact they are fine

 

[InvegaAnon]

Ugh, I just read guanfacine can cause sexual dysfunction too. And emotional blunting.

That's it, I'm gonna get a medical marijuana card and try Vyvanse. I have a very inconvenient mix of issues and I need medical marijuana, but I can't get stimulants with Medicaid if I use weed unless I get a card for it. Maybe I'll switch to just CBD for a time until I get money for the card. Making myself more mentally functional is more important than getting high after all.

 

[apsucks]

LmI am being realistic. Don’t forget that these people were mentally ill to begin with. I agree with what Serhat just explained above. A positive mindset is detrimental to our health and wellbeing. If you keep bumming yourself out thinking you have permanent side effects, you will go through life with that outlook and hence, never heal. The way we think has a huge impact, there is plenty of literature on this

Didn't knew you had a degree in psychology and diagnosed everyone on this forum. <unnecessary comment - SMod> Its not that people think they have permanent side effects, some truly do have permanent side effects, just assuming they are negative is gaslighting and plays into the hands of the psychiatrists. Thinking you can control reality with your mind is delusional thinking, grandiose delusions is mental illness. Only thing a negative mindset will do is creating more stress than is needed thinking that stress will somehow create symptoms that are similar to invega is ridicilious, the shit people make up.

Its cool that serhat is healing i wish him the best, but bro need to realize that most people can't even take 3 injections they simply won't tolerate, alot of them tap out due burning brain pains, breathing problems, inability to sleep at all or extreme akathesia. thinking you can just think neuroleptic malignant syndrom away is BS. Some people are just lucky and suffer less, i wish i would have suffer less but then again i already started recovering month 4 off invega so i don't really have much room to complain here.. almost nobody on this forum started healing month 4

Only thing i did was laying in bed all day smoking weed, eating cookies and complaining how shit everything is. You guys tell people they do need to do quests all day in order to heal like some video game

 

[apsucks]

So your saying getting injected with the worst poison and being suicidaly depressed of it is hypochondria ? ..ok

"excessive concern about one's health especially when accompanied by imagined physical ailments"
"Illness anxiety disorder is a chronic mental illness previously known as hypochondria. People with this disorder have a persistent fear that they have a serious or life-threatening illness despite few or no symptoms."

I never seen anyone here complaining they have physical ailments, and people here taken some poisonious injection and got symptoms because of that.

Seems you got your definition wrong about whay it really means.

I also got a term for your behaviour, "toxic positivity" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_positivity
You guys are really coping so hard

 

[Baddream]

Didn't knew you had a degree in psychology and diagnosed everyone on this forum. Because you are mentally challenged doesn't mean everybody is mentally challenged. Its not that people think they have permanent side effects, some truly do have permanent side effects, just assuming they are negative is gaslighting and plays into the hands of the psychiatrists. Thinking you can control reality with your mind is delusional thinking, grandiose delusions is mental illness. Only thing a negative mindset will do is creating more stress than is needed thinking that stress will somehow create symptoms that are similar to invega is ridicilious, the shit people make up.

Its cool that serhat is healing i wish him the best, but bro need to realize that most people can't even take 3 injections they simply won't tolerate, alot of them tap out due burning brain pains, breathing problems, inability to sleep at all or extreme akathesia. thinking you can just think neuroleptic malignant syndrom away is BS. Some people are just lucky and suffer less, i wish i would have suffer less but then again i already started recovering month 4 off invega so i don't really have much room to complain here.. almost nobody on this forum started healing month 4

Only thing i did was laying in bed all day smoking weed, eating cookies and complaining how shit everything is. You guys tell people they do need to do quests all day in order to heal like some video game

You are banned from here every other day and claim that I’m the one being mentally weak? That hurts coming from you!

I didn’t claim anything about users of this forum, I said those who say they NEVER recovered. Years and years later.

Explain to me then why some people recover and some don’t? We are all humans at the end of the day. Maybe some take longer than others and some have more adverse effects, but we all heal at the end of the day!

Some people are simply blaming all their problems in life on this drug forever. It’s bullshit!

You could aso contact every person that has uploaded a video of their journeys with this poisons 4 years post injection and tell them they just need to change their minds to a positive thinking.

Where are they? All I see on this forum are people coming back with positive stories. Only negativity I read is from people who are currently taking meds and wonder why they still feel like shit. Show me someone 3+ years later still crying.

Stop scaring people with this nonsense!

 

[Baddream]

I really hope you get to the 1 year mark and confirm to all of us that the mind plays a big role on healing from this shit.

I can already confirm it now. Still some issues left, but everything has progressed

 

[Baddream]

Seems you got your definition wrong about whay it really means.

This is what I wrote in the follow up

«It’s like hypocondriaism, I don’t know if it’s exactly the same, but some people have a keen ability to convince themselves they are ill when in fact they are fine»