Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

[apsucks]

dude everyone recovers you guys are all stuck in black and white way of thinking. Nobody didn't recover. Also alot of them said they were better than pre invega like if injecting the most potent poison in human history is going to enhance anything i find that hard to believe. Also the recovery time between the number of injections doesnt make sense.
Like i said there is no way to measure recovery and most of the guys forgot how they felt pre invega. For a long time i thought i was 100% recovered until i start doing things and noticed subtle changes in performance. Dirtytinvega never fully recovered as well but most guys think they're 100% recovered once the anhedonia goes away.

If we were about to make a list of people who don't 100% recover and include reddit and other forums you would be shocked. I dont like selling false hope you are going to feel better no matter what but the injection is going to take something from you

 

[Rulomaner]

dude everyone recovers you guys are all stuck in black and white way of thinking. Nobody didn't recover. Also alot of them said they were better than pre invega like if injecting the most potent poison in human history is going to enhance anything i find that hard to believe. Also the recovery time between the number of injections doesnt make sense.
Like i said there is no way to measure recovery and most of the guys forgot how they felt pre invega. For a long time i thought i was 100% recovered until is start doing things and noticed subtle changes in performance. Dirtytinvega never fully recovered as well but most guys think they're 100% recovered once the anhedonia goes away.

If we were about to make a list of people who don't 100% recover and include reddit and other forums you would be shocked. I dont like seeling false hope you are going to feel better no matter what but the injection is going to take something from you

man knows what he is saying!!

 

[apsucks]

Nah man hell phase is like 6 months then you really start recovering. Month 4 is when the injection starts leaving the body in significant amounts to be honest i dont believe people who said they recovered in 3 months...it will get better and you will feel better but things will not be the same as pre invega its fucking upsetting

 

[Rulomaner]

Nah man hell phase is like 6 months then you really start recovering. Month 4 is when the injection starts leaving the body in significant amounts to be honest i dont believe people who said they recovered in 3 months...it will get better and you will feel better but things will not be the same as pre invega its fucking upsetting

Why are you stiil alive though? Serious question

 

[Invegaishell]

dude everyone recovers you guys are all stuck in black and white way of thinking. Nobody didn't recover. Also alot of them said they were better than pre invega like if injecting the most potent poison in human history is going to enhance anything i find that hard to believe. Also the recovery time between the number of injections doesnt make sense.
Like i said there is no way to measure recovery and most of the guys forgot how they felt pre invega. For a long time i thought i was 100% recovered until i start doing things and noticed subtle changes in performance. Dirtytinvega never fully recovered as well but most guys think they're 100% recovered once the anhedonia goes away.

If we were about to make a list of people who don't 100% recover and include reddit and other forums you would be shocked. I dont like selling false hope you are going to feel better no matter what but the injection is going to take something from you

“everyone recovers you guys are all stuck in black and white way of thinking.” Isn’t saying “everyone recovers” being black and white yourself? I say we don’t know if everyone recovers. What we do know is these people on the list were satisfied enough to move on with their lives. Who are we to take away from their recovery when we don’t know what they’re feeling? Just because you didn’t recover from invega doesn’t mean other people didn’t recover. I’ve read many stories on Reddit where people did recover. Why would you create a list of people who didn’t recover instead of a list of people who did recover? If there is hope, why wouldn’t you want to believe it? There is no False hope if there are people who recovered. I agree the injection is going to take something from you but that doesn’t mean we can’t reach a point where we move on with our lives. EsseIsGreat and Katrina both just recovered. I believe there is hope as long as people recover to the point where they are functional. Otherwise, they would still be on this forum. Stop being a pessimist, all we have is hope right now.

 

[apsucks]

Why are you stiil alive though? Serious question

i dont feel emotions and i can't feel bad in an emotional way to kill myself
Even with 80% Recovery life is still worth living. I still like to play videogames and i like growing plants some other hobbies but interest such as spirituality and religion completely dissappeared. Loving a girlfriend is hard to do. There is stlil enough to live for.

I firmly believe psychedelics can change the brain in a few years time its known that one dose of mushrooms already changes the brain increases neuroplasticity

 

[RecoveryInProgress]

I’m worried my metabolism is messed up permanently. I am almost 10 months off and I have been working out constantly for 3 months. I also eat very healthy and have not lost 1 lb.

If you can’t lose weight I recommend garcina cambogia specifically the liquid supplement and apple cider vinegar but if you decide to do the apple cider vinegar to make sure you mix it with water and use a straw because it’s acidic and you don’t want to have contact with your teeth at all

 

[Invegaishell]

Nah man hell phase is like 6 months then you really start recovering. Month 4 is when the injection starts leaving the body in significant amounts to be honest i dont believe people who said they recovered in 3 months...it will get better and you will feel better but things will not be the same as pre invega its fucking upsetting

There is no set time when hell phase ends. Some people take a lot longer. Some take a shorter amount of time. I agree three months seems a little fast for healing. You don’t know if it won’t be the same as pre invega. Just because you haven’t experienced it yet, doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

 

[Ayden]

it did not speed up mine

How long did it take you to recover?

 

[Kaatrina]

This is my opinion, maybe you misunderstood or I didn’t make that clear. No need to be arguing about it, it’s my honest opinion.

The studies that were posted only suggest that bloating of the face may happen, a lot of peoples faces bloat when they gain weight. It’s nanatural.

Just want to be clear that your opinion ignores most people's experie ces and the results of what were posted. Invega messes with your hormones, this obviously has a huge effect on metabolism and fat distribution no matter what your genetics are

its stupid to assume they're all on AP...you dont know my life story stopmaking assumptions. In one month im completely off AP i let you know how recovery goes

I know you're on abilify and I know you're on disability <edited out unnecessary comment - SMod>

An MRI would show how your grey matter is less and how your brain has shrinkage, not because of you being Katrina but because these are long term effects of APs.

I wasnt on APs long term. <edited out unnecessary comment - SMod>

Assuming everyone who is not recovered is taking APs is just a reflection of how your thinking is not based on true facts but in an endless need of showing people recovery is possible. The text I sent is from someone who has only taken 2 injections of abilify (doesnt matter wich AP it is as long as im concerned) they all do the same shit! And he has been 3 years since that and still struggling to not commite suicide

<edited out unnecessary comment - SMod> He is struggling with suicide because he has no way to acceptably treat his bipolar, not because of any lasting effect of injection.

If people spent more time triying to understand the functioning of these drugs it would be easier to assert the real issue. These shit functions along with proteins, and proteins are codes, encripted codes that when modified can have devastating causes to the normal functioning of a brain.

I'd love to see the study you got your ideas about "encrypted codes in the brain" from

It does not have anything to do with having the substance inside of your system, they arent just balls that occupy space in your brain so that dopamine and serotonine remain low. They are neuroleptics, they interfere with the neuroproteins or brain cells, the modify, they kill

Have you ever heard of neuroplasticity? <edited out unnecessary comment - SMod>

How long were you on invega? Did you recover your emotions and thinking?

4 months. Yes, I did.

She said she recovered 100

Only if they are pretending like they're going through normal recovery instead of admitting that they experience anhedonia from AP use

Side effects of invega simply went away and i could enjoy video games again..i rarely noticed anything until i found out in competetive multiplayer games im always somewhere on the last place which is different than pre invega. I couldn't enjoy art like i used to and couldn't make or think art when i tried. Its all thesesubtle things where you suddenly found out you are not the same pre invega. Not feeling emotions was obvious in the first place but when handling or caring for animals i suddenly couldn't feel emotions...i wouldnt care if someone killed my cat or dog nothing wil go on in my head. Only emotions which are there is somekind of depression

And before this i was kind of an impulsive thinker i would think all day about things but now my (pre abilify but also on abilify) my mind goes blank i don't have the same stream of thought. i can go to friends and still enjoy a football match but the beer won't give me any euphoria and i had trouble communicating trouble coming with new material to talk about..overall blank mind. If i went out i could easily pick up a chick pre invega i could easily date someone...post invega its extremely hard.

<edited out unnecessary comment - SMod> do you think the abilify you take could be causing this?

Dirtytinvega never fully recovered as well but most guys think they're 100% recovered once the anhedonia goes away.

Dirtyinvega, like you, took APs & was on disability. <edited out unnecessary comment - SMod>

 

[Ayden]

I have been successfully losing weight lately. Even though it’s hard to work up a sweat from running, the calorie deficit does its thing. Lost a bit of strength in the gym as well, it’s only natural but worse on invega.

Also I have been reading up on failed recoveries on reddit and find myself thinking I will never be able to get a good buzz again, at least not as easily as before. That scares me because it means some permanent damage has been done. Sorry to bum you out with this pessimistic outlook. It’s just tough to take in that I won’t ever be the same. I hope I’m wrong

How many injections did you have and how long have you been off? Has anything gotten better?

 

[RecoveryInProgress]

This forum has surmounted to total and complete chaos and little help. No one responded to me about a lot of things I needed help with and actively generates negativity toward people they shouldn’t even be responding to. I feel like this site is addictive and more of a negative influence than a positive one at this time. For now I’m out but good luck to you all.

 

[Ayden]

This forum has surmounted to total and complete chaos and little help. No one responded to me about a lot of things I needed help with and actively generates negativity toward people they shouldn’t even be responding to. I feel like this site is addictive and more of a negative influence than a positive one at this time. For now I’m out but good luck to you all.

I agree. I pray we all recover.

 

[mura_yom_invegasucks]

First 4 months is completely and an entirely different feeling than months 5-8 and similarly different progression from months 9-12. Don’t get lost in the depression from the first few months

 

[Ayden]

First 4 months is completely and an entirely different feeling than months 5-8 and similarly different progression from months 9-12. Don’t get lost in the depression from the first few months

I’m on month two this shit is so difficult

 

[HellFromPsychMeds]

Hi. I'm back after an age of recovery. About a year on and I can say this sh1t has mostly left my body. I was on respiridone, but that's the drug you're dealing with too.

It causes ME, chronic fatigue. If you've been wondering why you're so tired all the time. It destroys so much of you, the repairs can take about 7-10 years, unless you know a way to cycle your cells faster. High power exercise that pushes your cells to the limit is useful, you can cycle the muscle cells that way. The mitochondria is maybe affected, that's the conclusions from several in house studies I saw, peer review would be met with agonising Pharma counter attacking so they just circulate the data quietly from what I know.

It's ok, you'll all be ok eventually. Drugs and alcohol work again, although I steer clear. Imagination and visualisation of things is still foggy, processing speed lowered, maybe 10 years to rebuild the grey matter again... Yes Ten! But that's hope. Sex drive not good, maybe sterile, and stamina is gone. Testosterone near non existent. Energy is low.

Good news, you can live simply. I'm lucky, I completed all the work I wanted to in my 40 years of life, I can just go be chilled now. Camper van, beach, dog <----. I'm not checking out the girls anymore, not sure if that's the drug.

If there's anything as evil as this on the planet I've not found it, it's a secret genocide of people. They're killing you via this stuff saying it's help. Disgusting.

New drugs in development to counter the effects quickly, they just act as a conduit with higher affinity for the receptors, therefore the receptors unblock and return to normal. It's the Pinnacle of science and not available commercially. Maybe one day it'll be there to aid people more freely and get people away from these chemical lobotomy drugs pharma spams on us.

Ask questions

 

[HellFromPsychMeds]

First 4 months is completely and an entirely different feeling than months 5-8 and similarly different progression from months 9-12. Don’t get lost in the depression from the first few months

I'm glad there are still supportive people here.

If you read all of these forums and didn't come back to support after you felt better, shame on you!

You'll get better folks, time is the major factor.
I took a lot of vitamin b complex. Kept a multivitamin supply daily. Rested rest rest rest rest rest rest. Stay AWAY from idiots who tell you to take more psych drugs. Stay AWAY from health services IF you can HANDLE it on your own. If not, I'm sorry, but you might need to take a hit before you can recover.

Olanzapine, was nothing (I was given that first) compared to this horror. J&J pharma just want to make cash off the same drug <edited out conspiracy comment - SMod>. Check the reports and documentaries about uygh1rs

 

[Invegaishell]

Hi. I'm back after an age of recovery. About a year on and I can say this sh1t has mostly left my body. I was on respiridone, but that's the drug you're dealing with too.

It causes ME, chronic fatigue. If you've been wondering why you're so tired all the time. It destroys so much of you, the repairs can take about 7-10 years, unless you know a way to cycle your cells faster. High power exercise that pushes your cells to the limit is useful, you can cycle the muscle cells that way. The mitochondria is maybe affected, that's the conclusions from several in house studies I saw, peer review would be met with agonising Pharma counter attacking so they just circulate the data quietly from what I know.

It's ok, you'll all be ok eventually. Drugs and alcohol work again, although I steer clear. Imagination and visualisation of things is still foggy, processing speed lowered, maybe 10 years to rebuild the grey matter again... Yes Ten! But that's hope. Sex drive not good, maybe sterile, and stamina is gone. Testosterone near non existent. Energy is low.

Good news, you can live simply. I'm lucky, I completed all the work I wanted to in my 40 years of life, I can just go be chilled now. Camper van, beach, dog <----. I'm not checking out the girls anymore, not sure if that's the drug.

If there's anything as evil as this on the planet I've not found it, it's a secret genocide of people. They're killing you via this stuff saying it's help. Disgusting.

New drugs in development to counter the effects quickly, they just act as a conduit with higher affinity for the receptors, therefore the receptors unblock and return to normal. It's the Pinnacle of science and not available commercially. Maybe one day it'll be there to aid people more freely and get people away from these chemical lobotomy drugs pharma spams on us.

Ask questions

Thank you for your update! So you would say you are functional after a year off? And I don’t think it will take 10 years to get back to yourself, at least I hope not.

 

[CrimsonThornX]

Hi. I'm back after an age of recovery. About a year on and I can say this sh1t has mostly left my body. I was on respiridone, but that's the drug you're dealing with too.

It causes ME, chronic fatigue. If you've been wondering why you're so tired all the time. It destroys so much of you, the repairs can take about 7-10 years, unless you know a way to cycle your cells faster. High power exercise that pushes your cells to the limit is useful, you can cycle the muscle cells that way. The mitochondria is maybe affected, that's the conclusions from several in house studies I saw, peer review would be met with agonising Pharma counter attacking so they just circulate the data quietly from what I know.

It's ok, you'll all be ok eventually. Drugs and alcohol work again, although I steer clear. Imagination and visualisation of things is still foggy, processing speed lowered, maybe 10 years to rebuild the grey matter again... Yes Ten! But that's hope. Sex drive not good, maybe sterile, and stamina is gone. Testosterone near non existent. Energy is low.

Good news, you can live simply. I'm lucky, I completed all the work I wanted to in my 40 years of life, I can just go be chilled now. Camper van, beach, dog <----. I'm not checking out the girls anymore, not sure if that's the drug.

If there's anything as evil as this on the planet I've not found it, it's a secret genocide of people. They're killing you via this stuff saying it's help. Disgusting.

New drugs in development to counter the effects quickly, they just act as a conduit with higher affinity for the receptors, therefore the receptors unblock and return to normal. It's the Pinnacle of science and not available commercially. Maybe one day it'll be there to aid people more freely and get people away from these chemical lobotomy drugs pharma spams on us.

Ask questions

At first I was starting to panic thinking that you said it's been 10 whole years and you still have cognitive/sexual issues. I was about to say it's unbelievable you've had to deal with it for so long but thankfully I misread your post at first. For me it's been half the duration of your case, in other words a bit over half a year since my first and last injection and certainly still have the exact same issues you have, sure it's somewhat improved but I'd much rather make a full recovery not just a partial one. I rarely drink in the first place, mabye every once in a while, but not since I've gotten injected so I can't determine whether I can feel substances like alcohol again or not. Also yes I generally feel lazy, tired, and lethargic which wasn't an issue before, though I still force myself to be somewhat active/productive at least. Cognitively I'm still very much screwed, I have poorer memory, impaired learning skills, delayed reactions, etc. And lastly I've somewhat recovered sexually by now but still have a relatively low libido and low testosterone levels compared to my prior self. I find it strange that you said you might be sterile now, the first month or two I literally couldn't produce any semen at all but now at over 6 months off it's nearly returned to normal so I dont think it would have a lasting impact in that regard a whole year later. I suppose my one question is after a year off what percentage out of 100% would you consider yourself recovered, and what have you recovered the least/most from?

 

[Kaatrina]

1. I took no other ap for two straight years and didn't recover in 2 straight years which you said how long average recovery takes

The only problem I have with you is that you're here saying that not everyone recovers because you didn't recover when the only reason you aren't recovered is that you're still on APs. This messes with people's perception of the unadulterated recovery cycle, which is very real

That really fucks with people who are trying to recover to their old selves here and you need to stop

I post the reason why you continue to take APs so that people can understand why you keep failing to mention it. It's important to know that recovery is possible but remaining on APs will not return you to your pre-AP self.

You experienced psychosis after ceasing invega, which at the very least proves that you were capable off euphoria, loss of time sense, and many other mental capabilities that the unrecovered mind isn't capable of. <edited out unnecessary comment - SMod>