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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

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roofmaan1 said:
Invega is not classified as a neurotoxin!!! does anyone disagree with this or have any opinions

this Is great news!!
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Apparently it's neuroprotective against haloperidol induced toxicity

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Neurotoxic/neuroprotective activity of haloperidol, risperidone and paliperidone in neuroblastoma cells - PubMed

The neurotoxicity of antipsychotic (AP) drugs seems to be linked with neurological side effects like extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS). On the other hand, neuroprotective effects can mitigate or slow the progressive degenerative structural changes in the brain leading to improved outcome of...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
Conky said:
Apparently it's neuroprotective against haloperidol induced toxicity

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Neurotoxic/neuroprotective activity of haloperidol, risperidone and paliperidone in neuroblastoma cells - PubMed

The neurotoxicity of antipsychotic (AP) drugs seems to be linked with neurological side effects like extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS). On the other hand, neuroprotective effects can mitigate or slow the progressive degenerative structural changes in the brain leading to improved outcome of...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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I don’t understand. Is this good or bad news for invega patients?
 
^ I think invega should be one of those last resort antipsychotics. I mean if you can prescribe zyprexa instead of invega why prescribe invega which is fucking horrible. I actually preferred thorazine over invega and abilify. <edited out unnecessary drug discussion - SMod>
 
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paranoid android said:
^ I think invega should be one of those last resort antipsychotics. I mean if you can prescribe zyprexa instead of invega why prescribe invega which is fucking horrible. I actually preferred thorazine over invega and abilify. Thorazine actually goes pretty good with morphine and other opiates.
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And that's exactly why I think it's complete bullshit that my previous psychiatrist prescribed me invega for seemingly no reason in particular since I'm not schizophrenic or psychotic, like what was she even trying to treat? For whatever reason I'll never understand she even says it's her preferred medication and is her first go-to treatment like what the actual fuck. As if that wasn't bad enough the day I reported how horrible of a reaction I had to it she legit rudely told me to stop exaggerating and to immediately leave her office. I bet that bitch wouldn't think twice about prescribing this poison to clients if she took it herself and realized how terrible it truly is. I genuinely hope she looses her job and never comes even slightly close to getting hired for a similar position ever again. At least now I'm seeing a doctor that seems to genuinely care about my well-being, acknowledges and understands that invega is the cause of my many health issues now, and recommends natural supplements she believes is most helpful for ACTUAL conditions I have, even warning me of potential side effects each one may cause. It's a shame I found this doctor too late but it is what it is I guess.
 
Mort4king said:
Did your memory and motivation return to normal?
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Yes, 100% within 2 years
Baddream said:
This may be a lame question, but its been on my mind.

Does anybody believe many people from the previous threads who disappeared, actually ended it?

Like, why wouldn’t somebody who was scared shitless about this drug come back and give updates? Because there are no good news to give?

I know for sure that after feeling like complete shit on this drug, I will come back and post positive news when I (hopefully) recover.

I really don’t know what to think. Maybe they just got over this forum. Maybe they never recovered.

I think it’s kind of selfish not to come back with encouragement after posting tons of negative posts during recovery.

Big shoutout to paranoid android and the others for staying in touch. Thank you, it means alalot.
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I think at least some may have considering the probability in their circumstances. I think many experience psychotic relapse. It's hard to come back after that because the experience of relapse can really dash your hopes of recovery at all. Narshe , who started this thread, was one of these. Many just legitimately move on and forget about the forum. For example Koz from the old threads was a huge help and if you contact him now he's still doing fine. This forum can be a depressing place to spend time
CrimsonThornX said:
And that's exactly why I think it's complete bullshit that my previous psychiatrist prescribed me invega for seemingly no reason in particular since I'm not schizophrenic or psychotic. For whatever reason I'll never understand she even says it's her preferred medication and is her first go-to treatment like what the actual fuck. As if that wasn't bad enough the day I reported how horrible of a reaction I had to it she legit rudely told me to stop exaggerating and to immediately leave her office. I bet that bitch wouldn't think twice about prescribing this poison to clients if she took it herself and realized how terrible it truly is. I genuinely hope she looses her job and never comes even slightly close to getting hired for a similar position ever again. At least now I'm seeing a doctor that seems to genuinely care about my well-being, acknowledges and understands that invega is the cause of my many health issues, and recommends natural supplements she believes is most helpful for ACTUAL conditions I have, even warning me of potential side effects each one may cause. It's a shame I found this doctor too late but it is what it is I guess.
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Kickbacks are a bitch.
paranoid android said:
Where you in the psych ward? I know people who have been in there unmedicated and reported the same thing and i got this to. I think some of the effects people are suffering are actually caused by being in the psych ward not drugs per se. That place is fucking dehumanizing
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Suicide rates increase by a measurable amount if someone has been on contact with the psych ward. Mod ask for the Stat link before you assume I'm lying and delete my post.
Baddream said:
I don’t understand. Is this good or bad news for invega patients?
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It's bullshit - pharm companies flub their studies all the time to get desired outputs. FDA doesn't do anything about it if it's brought up after the fact.
paranoid android said:
Where did i ever say i was schizophrenic? I have never been diagnosed with that.
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Why have you been on zyprexa for over 4 years if you only ever had one unspecified psychosis
Baddream said:
If my fears are true, this is frontpage news
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Take care of yourself, baddream...keep good tabs on your paranoia
 
CrimsonThornX said:
And that's exactly why I think it's complete bullshit that my previous psychiatrist prescribed me invega for seemingly no reason in particular since I'm not schizophrenic or psychotic, like what was she even trying to treat? For whatever reason I'll never understand she even says it's her preferred medication and is her first go-to treatment like what the actual fuck. As if that wasn't bad enough the day I reported how horrible of a reaction I had to it she legit rudely told me to stop exaggerating and to immediately leave her office. I bet that bitch wouldn't think twice about prescribing this poison to clients if she took it herself and realized how terrible it truly is. I genuinely hope she looses her job and never comes even slightly close to getting hired for a similar position ever again. At least now I'm seeing a doctor that seems to genuinely care about my well-being, acknowledges and understands that invega is the cause of my many health issues now, and recommends natural supplements she believes is most helpful for ACTUAL conditions I have, even warning me of potential side effects each one may cause. It's a shame I found this doctor too late but it is what it is I guess.
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That is some bullshit. Why even prescribe a antipsychotic at all then?

Kaatrina said:
Yes, 100% within 2 years

I think at least some may have considering the probability in their circumstances. I think many experience psychotic relapse. It's hard to come back after that because the experience of relapse can really dash your hopes of recovery at all. Narshe , who started this thread, was one of these. Many just legitimately move on and forget about the forum. For example Koz from the old threads was a huge help and if you contact him now he's still doing fine. This forum can be a depressing place to spend time

Kickbacks are a bitch.

Suicide rates increase by a measurable amount if someone has been on contact with the psych ward. Mod ask for the Stat link before you assume I'm lying and delete my post.

It's bullshit - pharm companies flub their studies all the time to get desired outputs. FDA doesn't do anything about it if it's brought up after the fact.

Why have you been on zyprexa for over 4 years if you only ever had one unspecified psychosis

Take care of yourself, baddream...keep good tabs on your paranoia
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Ya i read that about psych wards to. I have actually only been on zyprexa since january previous to that i was on latuda, abilify and first off invega. I have been on antipsychotics this long because i dont want to risk another psychotic episode. I did have cotards syndrome and i sure as shit dont want to risk that coming back. That was fucking traumatic
 
Baddream said:
If my fears are true, this is frontpage news
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It stinks because a journalist will only write something if there is evidence. That is why the only lawsuit for invega is gynecomastia. You can prove gynecomastia with before and after numbers. You can prove it with how much prolactin is raised. You can’t prove lack of consciousness and a blank mind. Evidence is a big reason we are stuck and no one is doing anything. The journalist would just think our symptoms have to do with a bipolar or schizophrenia diagnosis. The journalist wouldn blame the symptoms on the condition, just like the doctors do.
 
Baddream said:
I don’t understand. Is this good or bad news for invega patients?
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Its a load of crap study there are a few like these
Movement disorders are a product of neurotoxicity
Invega causes movement disorders
Case closed

Kaatrina said:
Yes, 100% within 2 years

I think at least some may have considering the probability in their circumstances. I think many experience psychotic relapse. It's hard to come back after that because the experience of relapse can really dash your hopes of recovery at all. Narshe , who started this thread, was one of these. Many just legitimately move on and forget about the forum. For example Koz from the old threads was a huge help and if you contact him now he's still doing fine. This forum can be a depressing place to spend time

Kickbacks are a bitch.

Suicide rates increase by a measurable amount if someone has been on contact with the psych ward. Mod ask for the Stat link before you assume I'm lying and delete my post.

It's bullshit - pharm companies flub their studies all the time to get desired outputs. FDA doesn't do anything about it if it's brought up after the fact.

Why have you been on zyprexa for over 4 years if you only ever had one unspecified psychosis

Take care of yourself, baddream...keep good tabs on your paranoia
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zyprexa is better tolerated than other AP
Unfortunately it causes more brain shrinkage than most
Invega is the worst tho imho
 
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apsucks said:
The depression and anhedonia are worse on abilify
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I dont think i was ever depressed on it but the anhedonia was fucking horrible. I also had symptoms of mild akathisia from it. The sexual dysfunction was not fun either.

Thankfully i recovered from it fully despite being on it over a year and a half
 
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