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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

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Invegatorture said:
Did anyone recover their brain back after feeling completely lobotomised? My brain got damaged a lot by the injections. The day after my second dose my brain felt like it went to mush, it was so powerful.
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I had the same experience with my brain feeling like sludge . I got my brain back 100%.
Baddream said:
Does/did anybody here struggle with social anxiety/paranoia? Dm if you want to share experiences or post it here if you want. I am happy to listen and need some advice on how to cope long term as I come off this medicine.
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I struggled with this a lot. Therapy and lots of self reflection helped me understand that I was projecting (and still tend to) the constant social betrayals and undercutting of someone very close to me that I never noticed before onto others. Understanding my relationship woth my family helped me understand myself and better come to terms with feelings like this - also feelings like I must always do something socially wrong and that if I don't behave perfectly people won't like me - that i must be defective because of a way a family member has treated me and that i had to find and "fix" whatevr social defect that was -learning that feelings like that aren't true was very empowering
Invegaishell said:
Is it proven? It would be hard to tell the long term side effects since invega was approved in 2009.
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It's not "proven" per se, because as another user said they don't study schizos that aren't medicated (hard to find). But mortality rates of the schizophrenics have more than doubled since neuroleptics have been introduced, which points to it as a cause
apsucks said:
People dont like what i say but i never returned to preinvega within 2 years post invega and not taking anything else. I only took abilify 5mg for 2 weeks around month 2 off invega to fool a blood test and it never did anything because invega is much stronger than abilify it prevents from coupling to the receptor and bumps abilify straight off the receptor. It felt like taking sugar pills.
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Well you did go psychotic again to get injected with abilify so you must have at least felt some recovery if you could do that
Invegaishell said:
Maybe you read a different statistic or there’s one I didn’t see. I am in no way trying to argue, but according to John Hopkins “Over the decade-long study period, taking medication did not increase the risk of deathand there was a trend towards reducing the mortality rate.” Also from ncbi.nlm.big.gov “Tiihonen et al, reported that long-term use of antipsychotics was associated with a 15–40% lower mortality than no antipsychotic use.” I don’t trust big pharma when it comes to antipsychotics, but according to these companies not all antipsychotics cause damage long term. Maybe there is evidence invega does but I can’t find any.
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This is the Stat he's quoting
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And if you want to read the studies you can see plenty of them in that screenshot
The studies you quote arent only funded by the companies that make the product who are notorious for hiding, obfuscation, and even straight up lying about data, but they also dont account for withdrawal symptoms in control group (if they even have them)
At the very least we know that AP use increases risk of suicide
Invegatorture said:
Does your mind feel pre invega? Excluding emotions
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His mind doesn't feel pre invega because he takes another antipsychotic
Senior Moderator said:
No. It does not. There are MANY factors taken in to account with studies that apsucks referred to. Lifestyle, drug use, homelessness, diet, suicidality, other medical issues like diabetes, cancer, heart problems etc etc. The statistic that apsucks keeps posting is not accurate if you live a good, healthy lifestyle, have a good support network, have good housing, good access to medical assistance etc. So NO it does NOT automatically mean you are going to live 20 years shorter. It's a useless statistic in my opinion, one that just instills fear in to people like you who don't want to die early simply because you've taken antipsychotics. If you live a healthy life and take good care of yourself and whatever medical and psychiatric problems you may have, you will live a good, long life.



Please stop spewing out this useless statistic. It only scares people, and it is not accurate. Consider this a verbal warning. If you continue to post silly statistics like this that are purely designed for fear-mongering and discouragment of everyone here who is trying to get well, you will be issued a formal warning.
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There it is fellas, you'll be banned by the pro psych mods if you link Peter Gotzche because it's "discouraging" to tell people damaged by invega about the harms of APs. Don't say I didn't call it
roofmaan1 said:
I remember how fun it was to watch a movie and wondering if we will ever have to same experience again watching a good movie? what you guys think?
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I thought I'd never care about my favorite movies again but I definitely do now. Last week I watched one of my favorites (Hook) and I even cried at the part I always cry at (when the mom finds the kids safe in their beds).
Baddream said:
One redditor said he couldn’t feel substances at all after five years. No euphoria. I will go insane if that’s the case for me. I can’t live like a monk for the rest of my life
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Always ask them if they're on another AP, they usually fail to mention if that's messing with them
 
What surpises me is that people interpret it as fear mongering ...appearantly mods are full of fear when they read that stuff
 
apsucks said:
What surpises me is that people interpret it as fear mongering ...appearantly mods are full of fear when they read that stuff
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I mean I’ve heard that statistic thrown around here and there but who’s to say it’s really accurate. It could very well be a myth or very well may be misled by the percentage of people who commit suicide because of the effects of the antipsychotic.
 
RecoveryInProgress said:
I mean I’ve heard that statistic thrown around here and there but who’s to say it’s really accurate. It could very well be a myth or very well may be misled by the percentage of people who commit suicide because of the effects of the antipsychotic.
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Suicide Does tend to lower the average lifespan. Here are the studies if anyone is interested https://ibb.co/p3sHTw6
 
Does anyone know why invega affects communication, comprehension and other cognitive abilities? I don’t really get it? It literally took my whole personality away but I am hopeful for recovery
 
What does everyone personally do to distract themselves from this situation? I'm asking because regardless of who I talk to, what I do, or where I go I can never get my mind off of this whole incident even though it's been over half a year by now. I'm just constantly hoping that there isn't some type of permanent damage caused by this horrible "medication". I refuse to accept that a single injection ( or two I don't remember ), could've potentially ruined the rest of my life until I die, and I also can't live with the fact that I may never experience a fulfilling life ever again either.
 
CrimsonThornX said:
What does everyone personally do to distract themselves from this situation? I'm asking because regardless of who I talk to, what I do, or where I go I can never get my mind off of this whole incident even though it's been over half a year by now. I'm just constantly hoping that there isn't some type of permanent damage caused by this horrible "medication". I refuse to accept that a single injection ( or two I don't remember ), could've potentially ruined the rest of my life until I die, and I also can't live with the fact that I may never experience a fulfilling life ever again either.
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time will tell but if you worry and recover fully you worried all that time for nothing
I worried all the time but i cannot change it in the end

Invegaishell said:
This medication took my talent away. Don’t know if I will get that back.
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Give invega to a champion mma fighter like george saint pierre or top athlete like lance armstrong and they get annihilated. I couldnt work out like i used to after the injection im not talking about lifting weights but cardio i would get these weird heart palpitations
 
I hate losing my personality. Anyone lost theirs and recovered it? Or anyone know of people who did

Today I drank a coffee and felt a slight buzz from it compared to the last time about a month ago where I felt nothing. Is this a sign of dopamine coming back?
 
It would be great if ppl put last injection date in the signature so we don’t need to ask every time

Invegatorture said:
Today I drank a coffee and felt a slight buzz from it compared to the last time about a month ago where I felt nothing. Is this a sign of dopamine coming back?
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Definitely a good sign! Start drinking coffee with espresso shots, you will feel it more 😄
 
Mentality and willpower are the only weapons we have to fight this battle. If you lose hope that it will get better it will only make recovery 10x harder. Can’t emphasize how important it is to stay positive. This drug is like a test, probably the hardest thing any of us will ever go through
 
apsucks said:
time will tell but if you worry and recover fully you worried all that time for nothing
I worried all the time but i cannot change it in the end
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I agree with this 100%. Worrying is a waste. Why take the grief in advance when there’s a strong possibility of full recovery. It just sucks so hard to be going through something like this. Every day is a struggle
 
Hello everyone. I'm new here with the same type of problem. I received 4 injections of Xeplion in 4 months (the first 150 mg in December 2022, the others were 100 mg), and with the third my creativity and intelligence dropped drastically. My writing talent has been taken away from me and I can no longer do what I have been doing for over a decade.
The first two months when I thought it was something permanent were terrible and a real horror. But recently I read comments here from people who have recovered from that poison or are still recovering and the feeling of deep despair has finally subsided. People on the forum say that recovery lasts from 8 to 14 months (maybe more), but only if other antipsychotics are not taken during that period. A little hope really can be the tipping point between life and death.
Can someone please answer some questions for me: Are 4 injections of Xeplion considered a longer and more dangerous therapy? Does anyone know what lifestyle habits are best to adopt during this recovery period? What kind of diet, exercise (long walks, running) or something else? Will I get back my intelligence and creativity, and my talent for writing novels? Thanks in advance.
 
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