Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

[Kaatrina]

Do you appreciate life more now that you have recovered?

I definitely have more perspective on things that were easy to take for granted. I think I waste less time on useless crap but that might be just because I got older.

I already told you, I am 3 months off. Btw I know people that is much longer than a year off with only 1 injection that has not recovered… I dont wanna sound pesimistic, but I prefer to be realistic

I am the first one that wants to recover, but the more I research the less light I see on recovering from this chemical lobotomy

Those people that you're talking to are on APs. You can't recover to pre-AP status while still taking APs. Even taking SSRIs will leave you with dull emotions and other effects. People very often don't disclose this information or think that a medication that's affecting them besides invega doesn't matter.

Kaatrina has gone a long way since she had those injections, but I hardly believe she has got ridden of all of that issues, If there was a dopamine receptors test, she will probably got it negative. Having kids and been pregnant is a really good reason to hang in there!!

You should see how nonsensically euphoric I get when I enter psychosis. Lmao

The thing I dont understand is why cant anyone that has recovered MAKE A FUCKING VIDEO of how she or he is at least, Katrina did it but more people please, this shit is hell i cant believe in recovery like this

I think we are lucky to have so many recovery stories in general . There were only 3 or 4 when I was recovering and you couldn't find people anywhere but here (not on reddit ect.) Making a video takes a lot of time

Yeah recovery or however much you recover is definitely going to be different for everyone. Like all of our starting points are different anyways. And like even if you lost something that will never return again that doesn’t necessarily mean you haven’t recovered. We all have starting point where we start out from and can only move up from there .

No matter what happens, we will all have gone through this experience and it can't be changed that the experience of being on invega alone will affect us in internal and external (personal life etc) ways.
It's like being in a car crash. You can recover from your injuries fully and get a new car, but you can't take away the fact that it happened. That's something have to come to terms with in recovery

 

[bojana]

I definitely have more perspective on things that were easy to take for granted. I think I waste less time on useless crap but that might be just because I got older.



Those people that you're talking to are on APs. You can't recover to pre-AP status while still taking APs. Even taking SSRIs will leave you with dull emotions and other effects. People very often don't disclose this information or think that a medication that's affecting them besides invega doesn't matter.

You should see how nonsensically euphoric I get when I enter psychosis. Lmao

I think we are lucky to have so many recovery stories in general . There were only 3 or 4 when I was recovering and you couldn't find people anywhere but here (not on reddit ect.) Making a video takes a lot of time

No matter what happens, we will all have gone through this experience and it can't be changed that the experience of being on invega alone will affect us in internal and external (personal life etc) ways.
It's like being in a car crash. You can recover from your injuries fully and get a new car, but you can't take away the fact that it happened. That's something have to come to terms with in recovery

What do you mean. You still have traumas from Invega?

 

[Rulomaner]

Do you know the dose of the Abilify maintena you were on and how it compares to the pill form? I’ve taken Abilify three years ago….

400x2 and 300 mg

 

[bojana]

I noticed these past couple days I’ve started regaining motivation again. Like this morning instead of just staying in bed feeling groggy and sluggish like I have been for several months during recovery I got up washed my face brushed my teeth put makeup on had a glass of water and ready to start my day. Not too long before this I would be not even wanting to get up and start my day. I think recovery is real I also think it being summer and sunny is helping a lot

How many invega shots did you had? You are 4 months off?

 

[RecoveryInProgress]

No matter what happens, we will all have gone through this experience and it can't be changed that the experience of being on invega alone will affect us in internal and external (personal life etc) ways.
It's like being in a car crash. You can recover from your injuries fully and get a new car, but you can't take away the fact that it happened. That's something have to come to terms with in recovery

I agree and I’m thankful for this forum and hearing about how other people are doing going through this. The trauma I have from it all is easily the hardest thing to come to terms with. And I will most likely continue to struggle with it for awhile to be honest but I know that staying healthy and doing everything I need to do my engine will still work even if internally it’s a wreck

How many invega shots did you had? You are 4 months off?

This time around I’ve taken Risperdal for 7 months and got off it in February. I’ve previously taken Invega and Abilify before.

 

[Invegatorture]

How long in general does it take for the anhedonia to subside from invega?

Is it good I can get high from weed and feel nicotine? Is that a sign of dopamine still being active?

 

[Rulomaner]

Is it good I can get high from weed and feel nicotine? Is that a sign of dopamine still being active?

No

 

[Invegatorture]

No

The high definitely isn’t euphoric like pre invega. Definitely missing dopamine and serotonin

 

[Serhat]

Anhedonia & Akathisia is a bitch

If Invega blocked dopamine & serotonin permanently then we wouldnt need more than 1 shot to maintain the effects so obviously the effects wear out after 1 shot thus needing more shots to maintain the blockage of dopamine and serotonin receptors. Thereby going with this conclusion once you stop taking invega you're receptors should be unlocked and feel dopamine & serotonin again once the half life has fully been eliminated from your system and then recovery starts so 6 months till invega half life is eliminated

 

[bojana]

How do you feel?

If Invega blocked dopamine & serotonin permanently then we wouldnt need more than 1 shot to maintain the effects so obviously the effects wear out after 1 shot thus needing more shots to maintain the blockage of dopamine and serotonin receptors. Thereby going with this conclusion once you stop taking invega you're receptors should be unlocked and feel dopamine & serotonin again once the half life has fully been eliminated from your system and then recovery starts so 6 months till invega half life is eliminated

 

[Senior Moderator]

No one has the answer to invega stop acting like you do

No one has the answer to invega recovery, stop acting like you do.

Please don't be so abrasive to people who are just sharing their thoughts and experiences. That's what this thread is for. Of course no one has the answers, otherwise this thread wouldn't exist for 7 fucking versions! It's okay for people to share their different thoughts and opinions. Please don't use phrases like this that discourage people to do so.

Hey guys. Do you feel better? Do you believe in recovery?

How long are you off

How long are you off

Please stop asking people the same question. Please be patient and wait for people to answer you, and try to remember who you have asked and what their answer was. Maybe even write it down if you can't remember. I understand having a bad memory may be an issue at the moment. I have a TERRIBLE memory from decades of drug and alcohol abuse (clean and sober now) and I have to have a little notebook with me to write things down, or I put them in the memo section of my phone so I don't forget. Otherwise there is no chance I will remember.

Neuroanatomical/neurochemical problem can not cause delusions by itself, it only makes it easier to form delusions just like being high does.

What I moreso meant was that EVERYTHING that happens in the brain is neurochemical. Happiness is chemical, sadness is chemical, memories are chemical, anxiety is chemical, delusions are chemical. See my point? Legitimately everything that happens in the brain is a chemical process.

Praying for Merek , you helped more than you know brother. And brother you should be proud for the impact you made

Me too man, me too. I think of him every single day. He was/is a good guy and has helped a LOT of people in this thread

 

[t_xeplionhell]

@apsucks I want to try shrooms in which country should I flight to so I can try without breaking a law.

 

[Baddream]

The high definitely isn’t euphoric like pre invega. Definitely missing dopamine and serotonin

I feel the same way. Can’t feel euphoria from weed, but definitely wouldn’t drive a car after smoking due to some kind of effect. Same with alcohol, I just get drowzy but not euphoric like I used to. I think the best thing is to lay off for a while, I will try again in a few weeks to see if there is any changes.

 

[Invegatorture]

I definitely have more perspective on things that were easy to take for granted. I think I waste less time on useless crap but that might be just because I got older.



Those people that you're talking to are on APs. You can't recover to pre-AP status while still taking APs. Even taking SSRIs will leave you with dull emotions and other effects. People very often don't disclose this information or think that a medication that's affecting them besides invega doesn't matter.

You should see how nonsensically euphoric I get when I enter psychosis. Lmao

I think we are lucky to have so many recovery stories in general . There were only 3 or 4 when I was recovering and you couldn't find people anywhere but here (not on reddit ect.) Making a video takes a lot of time

No matter what happens, we will all have gone through this experience and it can't be changed that the experience of being on invega alone will affect us in internal and external (personal life etc) ways.
It's like being in a car crash. You can recover from your injuries fully and get a new car, but you can't take away the fact that it happened. That's something have to come to terms with in recovery

Did you experience the feeling of your brain being damaged? Like cognitive impairment and memory problems. This is what I’m most worried about healing

 

[t_xeplionhell]

What I moreso meant was that EVERYTHING that happens in the brain is neurochemical. Happiness is chemical, sadness is chemical, memories are chemical, anxiety is chemical, delusions are chemical. See my point? Legitimately everything that happens in the brain is a chemical process.

You know there is also lot of electrical synapses in a human brain.

You can not repair a computer software with disabling parts of your CPU. This is why you can not fix a delusion with tampering with any kind of synapses but rather you can only disable partion of the "CPU"/brain so it is physically not able to operate certain "software"/delusion, but this does not remove the cause of delusion/"impaired software" and it will return when parts of that "CPU"/brain become operative again, unless if it gets forgotten and not used anymore but core issue is still present, just burried deep down, "impaired software" that is not being active/used. Humans extremely underestimate brain and act like monkeys trying to fix a CPU with only using a chisel.

Chemical synapses are analog and they make memories valuable and more accessable, when you remove meaning from memories they are much harder to be accessed, so that is how invega causes memory fog.

Did you know that many neurotransmitters have affinity to different types of receptors that aren't their "original targets", noradrenaline has high affinity to dopamine receptors.

 

[Kaatrina]

I just want to fucking see someone recovered from abilify maintena

From what I've seen abilify injection is less harsh than invega and not as long lasting so there are less people reaching out to share their experiences about it

What do you mean. You still have traumas from Invega?

The experience of losing your "soul" so to speak is traumatic. I dealt with a lot of it in therapy. Eventually I came to understand how I was never not myself, my "self" was just being covered up, kind of similar to my feelings of "self" in psychosis. Overall the invega shot is something that I wish had never happened to me because of what I and my family had to go through on it, and it was basically like being dead for a year. But now I wouldn't change the experience because I think the trajectory it put my life on is where I was meant to be and I think it made me a more sensitive and In trospective person. Sometimes it's how great we suffer that make us that much stronger, I think the people who have been through or are going through this type of recovery both know the worst suffering on earth and are the strongest people on earth.

How long in general does it take for the anhedonia to subside from invega?

Is it good I can get high from weed and feel nicotine? Is that a sign of dopamine still being active?

You will start to feel it subsiding at 9-12 months. Some people can feel those substances some can't. But be careful about the relationship between weed and psychosis

Did you experience the feeling of your brain being damaged? Like cognitive impairment and memory problems. This is what I’m most worried about healing

Yes. I had to take a math placement exam the fall after I was injected, and I remember feeling like my head was a brick when trying to study for it. I could remember absolutely nothing, and I could not get interested in the study at all, it was totally meaningless. I was planning to read the Odyssey when I was injected to pass the time at home, I couldn't get past the first few chapters and I couldn't remember a thing I had read. I kept rereading the same pages without realizing it until halfway through the page. I didn't read for a long time after that, but I do now. I also had a habit of reveling in my recollections from childhood and my brain stopped "recalling" those memories because they stopped giving me pleasure or meaning. This miraculously recovered although it took 2-2.5 years

 

[Invegatorture]

From what I've seen abilify injection is less harsh than invega and not as long lasting so there are less people reaching out to share their experiences about it

The experience of losing your "soul" so to speak is traumatic. I dealt with a lot of it in therapy. Eventually I came to understand how I was never not myself, my "self" was just being covered up, kind of similar to my feelings of "self" in psychosis. Overall the invega shot is something that I wish had never happened to me because of what I and my family had to go through on it, and it was basically like being dead for a year. But now I wouldn't change the experience because I think the trajectory it put my life on is where I was meant to be and I think it made me a more sensitive and In trospective person. Sometimes it's how great we suffer that make us that much stronger, I think the people who have been through or are going through this type of recovery both know the worst suffering on earth and are the strongest people on earth.

You will start to feel it subsiding at 9-12 months. Some people can feel those substances some can't. But be careful about the relationship between weed and psychosis

Yes. I had to take a math placement exam the fall after I was injected, and I remember feeling like my head was a brick when trying to study for it. I could remember absolutely nothing, and I could not get interested in the study at all, it was totally meaningless. I was planning to read the Odyssey when I was injected to pass the time at home, I couldn't get past the first few chapters and I couldn't remember a thing I had read. I kept rereading the same pages without realizing it until halfway through the page. I didn't read for a long time after that, but I do now. I also had a habit of reveling in my recollections from childhood and my brain stopped "recalling" those memories because they stopped giving me pleasure or meaning. This miraculously recovered although it took 2-2.5 years

Did you experience loss of appetite and insomnia? These are also issues im dealing with. Thanks for the response

 

[bojana]

Did you experience loss of appetite and insomnia? These are also issues im dealing with. Thanks for the response

Yes..

 

[Kaatrina]

Did you experience loss of appetite and insomnia? These are also issues im dealing with. Thanks for the response

I didn't like the same foods, but I didn't lose my appetite. I had terrible insomnia that got worse the more time I spent on the injection but started to resolve once I quit taking invega

 

[bojana]

Does Invega couse permanent brain damage