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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

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apsucks said:
The dude just told everyone what they wanted to hear he was too optimistic to begin with. People are scared shit when they hear how most people have some permanent issues when its just fact of life. When you walk into a knife fight you get wounded and gets scars...same with invega
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Well said. But it is like a building made of cards, it eventually collapses.
 
Anybody here feel brain damaged from invega? Please tell me what permanent side effects you have
 
Baddream said:
Anybody here feel brain damaged from invega? Please tell me what permanent side effects you have
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All invega users are brain damaged by invega, more or less. But it's impossible to know if some side effects are permanent until at least 2-4 years passes, then you will see if they were improving or not, if they were improving they are likely not permanent and will go away slowly as your brain recovers from the damage.
 
t_xeplionhell said:
All invega users are brain damaged by invega, more or less. But it's impossible to know if some side effects are permanent until at least 2-4 years passes, then you will see if they were improving or not, if they were improving they are likely not permanent and will go away slowly as your brain recovers from the damage.
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I understand what you are saying. My question is what side effects may be permanent? As far as I’m concerned, you are recovered when you can feel coffee, alcohol, weed, etc. that’s the main side effects I’m feeling now. Many people have recovered these aspects.

As far as anhedonia, feelings of love and joy, I believe this is more individualistic and subjective. It doesn’t bother me too much.

I want to know if anybody has never regained their ability to feel drunk, even after a bottle of whisky.

I am not an alcoholic, but I do depend on alcohol to socialize and stuff. I can live without it for a year or two, but if it’s permanent - that would be a big problem for me
 
Baddream said:
you are recovered when you can feel coffee, alcohol, weed, etc. that’s the main side effects I’m feeling now. Many people have recovered these aspects.
As far as anhedonia, feelings of love and joy, I believe this is more individualistic and subjective. It doesn’t bother me too much.
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Anhedonia makes you not able to feel coffe, alcohol, weed, etc. It isn't subjective if someone compares what is happening compared to how it was before.
I was able to like my job, like exercising, I had hobbies which I liked, I liked to learn new stuff. I don't f**king like my (current) seemingly perfect(to normal people) life at all.
I liked my life pre-invega even though now I have much more cash and live more rich life than before invega it f**king doesn't matter when comparing to my pre-invega life
which was much better and I had much less, because I'm currently f**king anhedonic, but having cash and suffering from anhedonia is better than suffering with anhedonia
and being broke. I also had higher IQ (which is now 130), better memory, better visualization and more creativity.
 
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t_xeplionhell said:
Anhedonia makes you not able to feel coffe, alcohol, weed, etc. It isn't subjective if someone compares what is happening compared to how it was before.
I was able to like my job, like exercising, I had hobbies which I liked, I liked to learn new stuff. I don't f**king like my seemingly perfect(to normal people) life at all.
I liked my life before f**king invega even though now I have much more cash and live more rich life than before invega it f**king doesn't matter when comparing
because I'm f**king anhedonic, but better with it than without. I also had higher IQ (which is now 130), better memory, better visualization and more creativity.
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You’re better with anhedonia than without? Did I understand that correctly?
 
t_xeplionhell said:
Anhedonia makes you not able to feel coffe, alcohol, weed, etc.
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I appreciate your answer and input.

But surely I (we?) cannot feel the effects of stims because the invega is still active in the blood?

I just don’t see the connection between alcohol and anhedonia, I don’t know what to think on that one. All I know is that I can’t get drunk. I feel weed, but it’s never been pleasureable even before the shots always got paranoid.

The receptors are blocked I get that. And I understand the drug induced anhedonia. But I can push through it and get shit done for the most part. I am emotionally numb, but hope this passes as the drug concentration is lowered.

Are you telling me that YOU, personally, after all this time off, would not even feel dizzy after a bottle of vodka? I just puked when I tried lol. Zero intoxication
 
Baddream said:
I appreciate your answer and input.

But surely I (we?) cannot feel the effects of stims because the invega is still active in the blood?

I just don’t see the connection between alcohol and anhedonia, I don’t know what to think on that one. All I know is that I can’t get drunk. I feel weed, but it’s never been pleasureable even before the shots always got paranoid.

The receptors are blocked I get that. And I understand the drug induced anhedonia. But I can push through it and get shit done for the most part. I am emotionally numb, but hope this passes as the drug concentration is lowered.

Are you telling me that YOU, personally, after all this time off, would not even feel dizzy after a bottle of vodka? I just puked when I tried lol. Zero intoxication
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Alcohol is not good for recovery and why are you drinking if you can’t feel anything
 
RecoveryInProgress said:
Alcohol is not good for recovery and why are you drinking if you can’t feel anything
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I drink on social occasions and stuff. The real question is when am I able to feel a buzz again? Because that, to me, means I’ve recovered. Even though it might sound silly to some
 
Kaatrina said:
It's important for people to get help on this forum, no reason for you to be taking other APs sitting on it telling people they're going to be just like you if they try to recover. Don't even know why you're here
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You have made a full recovery?
 
Baddream said:
What are the permanent issues people are claiming? This is a drug, once it leaves the body the side effects leave as well there is no brain damage that’s nonsense.

Tell me then, what is the permanent damage? Anhedonia is caused by a lack of activity/hobbies for the most part. People who suffer long term are those who lye in bed all day instead of living like adults
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If you read previous forums there was a list made of people who have fully recovered. It was made by someone called Zach365 and revises by someone called VeteransWife. It showed recoveries from forums 1-4, something like that. It showed more people recover than more people who don’t. I’m sure there are people who have permanent side effects or long lasting ones. But there’s no point in worrying about it at such an early stage when you won’t know yet. If you are worried look at the list it provided me with a lot of hope.
 
Baddream said:
I drink on social occasions and stuff. The real question is when am I able to feel a buzz again? Because that, to me, means I’ve recovered. Even though it might sound silly to some
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I don’t know and I don’t want to give you false hope.
What I do know based on what you provided in your signature is that you are at the earliest stage of recovery (almost 2 months off) so it’s likely you’re still recovering and going to recover for awhile.
My advice is to just be patient, give it time, and try to avoid alcohol while recovering.
 
Baddream said:
I drink on social occasions and stuff. The real question is when am I able to feel a buzz again? Because that, to me, means I’ve recovered. Even though it might sound silly to some
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I could get drunk at 13 months off invega. But I would have to drink a lot. I never abused alcohol & was a social drinker but I started to abuse alcohol once I could feel it again. I would put berries in vodka and drink it out if a sugar rimmed martini glass after work. I went through a psychosis and quit abusing it in march 2020. Now I can drink normally and get happy even off a glass of wine or two in the restaraunt just like the old days. Just be careful
Invegaishell said:
You have made a full recovery?
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Yes
 
RecoveryInProgress said:
You’re better with anhedonia than without? Did I understand that correctly?
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No WTF were you thinking, I meant it's better to suffer with anhedonia and more cash + rich life then with just having anhedonia along with being broke and no rich lifestyle/life.
 
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