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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

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Alex07 said:
Most people who are paralyzed and in a wheelchair by spinal damage or people with severe brain damage will have damage for the rest of their lives. Most of them do not magically stand up one day and start walking again it's a very tiny minority who do get better just a few % at most.
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I don’t get the relevance of this either. Nothing you said proves that we have been irreversably damaged. Study says maybe there’s a possibility.

«it is also possible that haloperidol may reduce the synaptic activity of some connections, causing destabilization and withdrawal of synapses.»

I will try and make a more detailed reply to your post tomorrow because it’s bedtime.

You bring up so many different claims that need to be explored further. I need to summarize your posts and deal with each claim separately.

Besides, one study doesn’t prove anything and haldol is an old drug, is it the same formula as in the study? Is it even prescribed today?

If I understand you correctly, your main point is that some parts of the brain heal, and other part’s don’t?

InvegaAnon said:
At the end of the day we're all just people on the internet haunted by the medical mystery of how invega sustenna actually works and what it does to you. I don't think anyone knows the truth.
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This is so true. But we need to allow people to post freely, even if it scares us. We’re all adults and deserve to know the truth. We can’t just close our eyes and sing kumbaya. It’s about free speech and finding the truth so we can deal with it. It doesn’t necessarily apply to you or me. Not even a high probability.
 
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The release of the drug starts on day 1 and lasts for as long as 126 days. So that’s why you start seeing minor improvements after the 4 month mark which seems like a commonality. Less and less of the drug is being activated, then after 120 days you begin the healing process.

I wonder how many posts on here are within the first 4 months in a panic and then later we don’t hear because they healed. Really wish we had data on this.
 
lurker689 said:
Psychosis doesn't realy cause any brain damage. It's not like it's a stroke or something.
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The loss of brain volume due to psychosis is statistically insignificant and similar to volume loss in depressed people. People in here absolutely don't have to worry about it even if you have multiple episodes. Also brain recovery after psychosis happens really quick and exceeds baseline recovery. Psychiatrist who used the "psychosis brain damage" theory are just trying to scare you into taking their meds, they themselfs know its statistically insignificant
 
Alex07 said:
The loss of brain volume due to psychosis is statistically insignificant and similar to volume loss in depressed people. People in here absolutely don't have to worry about it even if you have multiple episodes. Also brain recovery after psychosis happens really quick and exceeds baseline recovery. Psychiatrist who used the "psychosis brain damage" theory are just trying to scare you into taking their meds, they themselfs know its statistically insignificant
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Ive had about 5 psychotic episodes within 7 years, does that mean Ive lost 15% of the gray matter in my brain
 
Alex07 said:
The loss of brain volume due to psychosis is statistically insignificant and similar to volume loss in depressed people. People in here absolutely don't have to worry about it even if you have multiple episodes. Also brain recovery after psychosis happens really quick and exceeds baseline recovery. Psychiatrist who used the "psychosis brain damage" theory are just trying to scare you into taking their meds, they themselfs know its statistically insignificant
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It's essential to understand that the relationship between gray matter changes and psychosis is complex and not fully understood. Psychosis is a multifaceted phenomenon with various potential contributing factors, including genetic, environmental, and neurological factors. Research in this area is ongoing, and scientists continue to investigate the precise mechanisms underlying gray matter changes in individuals experiencing psychotic episodes
 
Some people are saying that antidepressants won’t work or will prolong recovery. Does anyone agree/disagree with this? I’m only a month off invega but was thinking of trying out Effexor
 
Maymay169 said:
Some people are saying that antidepressants won’t work or will prolong recovery. Does anyone agree/disagree with this? I’m only a month off invega but was thinking of trying out Effexor
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I think Invega blocks everything unfortunately
 
Some people are saying that antidepressants won’t work or will prolong recovery. Does anyone agree/disagree with this? I’m only a month off invega but was thinking of trying out effexor
 
Maymay169 said:
Some people are saying that antidepressants won’t work or will prolong recovery. Does anyone agree/disagree with this? I’m only a month off invega but was thinking of trying out effexor
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I used Effexor after Invega and it eventually made me manic. I don’t really know what advice to give but all I know is that antidepressants can cause mania and that’s something to consider
 
RecoveryInProgress said:
I used Effexor after Invega and it eventually made me manic. I don’t really know what advice to give but all I know is that antidepressants can cause mania and that’s something to consider
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How soon after invega did you try Effexor? And how manic did it make you?
 
RecoveryInProgress said:
It was at the same time in the hospital. I was taken off Adderall and put on Effexor while also getting the injection. I stayed on it for a year at 75mg I believe (I had it lowered soon after getting out).
It was a gradual thing of me feeling more reckless and not really paying attention to how my actions are affecting others and not as empathetic in general towards others, more of like an everything’s good land fantasy world. This mindset made me feel somewhat invincible and not able to foresee how my actions could change things, and not caring as much in return what happens. Perhaps a lack of insight could best describe it. This led for me to then ask my doctor for a Wellbutrin perscription because I wanted to help my ADHD as well as wanting to lose more weight. I don’t know why my doctor allowed me to take both antidepressants at the time but I did and eventually that led to a full blown psychosis , I was lashing out at others, I was going around and walking around, picking up things , I thought my parents were aliens, I thought everything was related to me somehow. I was extremely paranoid and probably experiencing serotonin syndrome or something. I eventually had to be hospitalized and that’s what then led to my experience of being put on a new antipsychotic-
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Did the effexor initially help? What effects did you notice in the beginning from taking it?
 
Maymay169 said:
Did the effexor initially help? What effects did you notice in the beginning from taking it?
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I think so. It helped a little bit but wasn’t a cure all. I don’t really remember too much about what it helped with but it supposedly was to help with anxiety, mood, and motivation like a combination of those three things. Kind of like a slightly improved feeling is the best way to describe it from what I can remember. Yeah I think short term it helped but long term it didn’t help.
 
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