Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v 6.0

[sweetheart123]

I was just reading it can Help against psychosis and anxiety. Maybe this will be my plan getting rid off These meds and try cbd

 

[sweetheart123]

Thank you merek

 

[roofmaan1]

I had that same feeling when I was first coming off the injections I felt like I was 85 years old with Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s and all I could do was sit there and look out the window, youre the same age as me though and that’s a big advantage if you’re young you have a much better chance at recovering from these things cause younger brains are typically stronger, I’ve read through all these threads and people who are teens or early 20s tend too always recover faster if they’re med free if you can run a mile by 2 months off the injection you’ve most definitely had some improvements youll be fine just give it time.

I think the illness is coming back
day by day trying to improve it

 

[Merek]

I took it once my psychiatrist told me it can make me psychotic. Isnt she wrong

CBD can’t cause psychosis that’s bs, only THC can so make sure when you get your CBD products that they’re THC free or have less then 0.3% THC. (nowhere near enough to have any effect on you sometimes hemp derived products have tiny traces of THC.) One more thing you should keep in mind is that CBD can slow down your metabolism of seroquel which may be good in reducing your chances of psychosis but will overall make your recovery from the anti psychotic side effects slower if you choose too taper.

 

[Merek]

I think the illness is coming back
day by day trying to improve it

What illness do you struggle with?

 

[sweetheart123]

CBD can’t cause psychosis that’s bs, only THC can so make sure when you get your CBD products that they’re THC free or have less then 0.3% THC. (nowhere near enough to have any effect on you sometimes hemp derived products have tiny traces of THC.) One more thing you should keep in mind is that CBD can slow down your metabolism of seroquel which may be good in reducing your chances of psychosis but will overall make your recovery from the anti psychotic side effects slower if you choose too taper.

Thanks so much for your advice. I love how smart you are

 

[roofmaan1]

What illness do you struggle with?

everyday feels cloudy and grey and have a hard time understanding people when they talk

 

[Merek]

everyday feels cloudy and grey and have a hard time understanding people when they talk

I don’t think your illness is coming back tbh I think it’s just invega side effects I felt exactly that way first few months of invega.

 

[Kaatrina]

There is none if you by "hard heart" mean numbness and absence of feeling moods, feeling emotions and experiences. Because that is induced by chemical antagonism and damage on various parts of brain including areas in temporal lobe and assoc brain areas, you can only wait for recovery, effects of antidepressants will be decreased by ~x100 during first months of recovery. Lot of members said that antidepressants didn't helped them and there is enough evidence to say that they do slow down recovery by noticable magnitude.

Antidepressants also cause emotional numbing

2 Month Update from Stopping Risperdal

-lost 2 more pounds since last time (I probably could have done better but Easter candy slowed my progress down according to my boyfriend)
-still continuing to do my routine from last month
-I’m slowly noticing progress on muscle definition but it’s VERY slow
- added in taking walks with my boyfriend every day around my apartment complex with my dog three times a day as well as running outside on the trail for 6 laps.
This is what I wrote in my journal just now ~~
I’ve lately been noticing myself of slipping up into negative thinking which exasperates a lot of my issues - body dysmorphia, detachment from present moment , low motivation and not looking towards the future as well as unhappiness with myself/ appearance. After losing only 2 pounds this month I realize I need to make adjustments to my daily routine. In addition to the running and walking I’m thinking of walking 500 laps around my kitchen island per day.
~
I plan to also substitute my breakfast and lunch with a pea protein shake and reduce my servings for dinner and limit my snacking. I’m hoping I can stick to it. Sometimes the depression and feeling of nothing changing can be discouraging and derail me from my motivation to lose weight. My boyfriend also bought me white boards and has a check list for me to do every day good luck to all of you on your recovery journey hope you all are doing ok!

Take it easy on yourself and give your body and systems time to recover. APs change the way your body processes food & it took me over a year to get back to my normal weight. Don't rush yourself , and remember to take care of yourself mentally as well as physically - if we want to be stable long term we need to address whatever though patterns/habits got us into this situation in the first place, it's more than just a physical recovery. Sounds like you are doing great and best of luck.

 

[Dre87]

There's another fucked up thing that happened to me in 2023, after I was fighting off those people who were trying to attack me on the streets and all of the other stuff that happened that night, I was staying at my parents house and substances were involved and I started getting paranoid that they were going to call the cops on me to take me to the mental facility again. This happened before over the course of several months but a couple times I sort of tried to leave and become homeless basically, during one of those times that shit with all those people on the streets happened which I mentioned in a comment on here a bit earlier.

But I sort of lost my shit again and it got really heated with my parents and they called the cops on me again. I was in the house and figured it was coming and got some stuff together and walked out of the house and cops were already pretty much there and told me to get on the ground and arrested me and took me to the mental facility again. I was in there this time for about almost a month and they put me on the fucken court-ordered injections again. They already gave me two loading doses of Invega which they would've just overpowered you to take. I also took one more dose once I got out, next one's in two weeks. During this time I also ended up actually taking a Greyhound bus by myself to this smaller mountain town a couple hours away after wandering around on the streets of Tempe and Phoenix all night in an almost semi-psychotic state. While there I had some more stupid adventures I guess you could say that involved a couple of nights being out in the freezing cold. One of those nights I was so cold and miserable that I was inside this gas station and a sheriff's deputy walked in and I asked him to give me a ride to the homeless shelter, and stayed there the rest of the night. One night I was even doing crazy shit where I didn't have enough money for a motel and was walking around everywhere and ran across these train tracks right as a freakin' train was coming, and it was blowing it's loud horn at me and everything. On the last day that I was there it turned out they told me I had to get to an office appointment at that psychiatric place and they were threatening me with violating the court order if I missed it. My dad ended up driving all the way up there and taking me back. When I got there the psych nurse practitioner that I talked to on the videocall said they could have just done it over the phone like I was doing with him before for a while. I was out of money anyways and had paid a guy $100 bucks to take me to this other small town a 30 minute drive away, and there wasn't really anything there. I ran in to this one dude at this bar who I met up there about a year and a half ago when I had driven up there before too, but we just talked for a bit and that was about it.

This all really sucks and I've been trying to figure out what to do, trying to get jobs and save money. I even got a job for one day as a dishwasher, then the stupidest shit happened, I wanted to get an energy drink and they didn't have any at the bar of that restaurant, so the manager actually told me that I could walk to the gas station to get one that was about 3 miles away. I was pretty out of it that day and ended up sort of getting lost and didn't have a cellphone or anything at the time for directions. They ended up firing me basically, and that job was for $18 an hour. I'm probably gonna try to get another one of these little dishwashing jobs for money.

And then so on the one hand I stood up to people that were pulling a gun and knives on me that one night, but on the other I ended up submitting to that psychiatric shit again. I'm going to have to leave the state for sure this time, I didn't have the guts to last time that I was on the injections. I've experienced a bit of being homeless enough now to know that it really really sucks. On top of all of that, to get a bit conspiratorial for a bit there's the very real danger that this country could collapse in 6 months to a year. I've been thinking alot about my own mortality, and about trying to get things right with God so to speak. I might even end up taking one more of those injections just to have time to get more money saved up. I've been kind of screwing around and drinking and doing other stuff in kind of a stupid way lately, just to try to kind of get fucked up and forget about some of the stuff that happened and to try to feel better after those injections. It looks like things are starting to get very real though. God help me and God help us all.

 

[Merek]

There's another fucked up thing that happened to me in 2023, after I was fighting off those people who were trying to attack me on the streets and all of the other stuff that happened that night, I was staying at my parents house and substances were involved and I started getting paranoid that they were going to call the cops on me to take me to the mental facility again. This happened before over the course of several months but a couple times I sort of tried to leave and become homeless basically, during one of those times that shit with all those people on the streets happened which I mentioned in a comment on here a bit earlier.

But I sort of lost my shit again and it got really heated with my parents and they called the cops on me again. I was in the house and figured it was coming and got some stuff together and walked out of the house and cops were already pretty much there and told me to get on the ground and arrested me and took me to the mental facility again. I was in there this time for about almost a month and they put me on the fucken court-ordered injections again. They already gave me two loading doses of Invega which they would've just overpowered you to take. I also took one more dose once I got out, next one's in two weeks. During this time I also ended up actually taking a Greyhound bus by myself to this smaller mountain town a couple hours away after wandering around on the streets of Tempe and Phoenix all night in an almost semi-psychotic state. While there I had some more stupid adventures I guess you could say that involved a couple of nights being out in the freezing cold. One of those nights I was so cold and miserable that I was inside this gas station and a sheriff's deputy walked in and I asked him to give me a ride to the homeless shelter, and stayed there the rest of the night. One night I was even doing crazy shit where I didn't have enough money for a motel and was walking around everywhere and ran across these train tracks right as a freakin' train was coming, and it was blowing it's loud horn at me and everything. On the last day that I was there it turned out they told me I had to get to an office appointment at that psychiatric place and they were threatening me with violating the court order if I missed it. My dad ended up driving all the way up there and taking me back. When I got there the psych nurse practitioner that I talked to on the videocall said they could have just done it over the phone like I was doing with him before for a while. I was out of money anyways and had paid a guy $100 bucks to take me to this other small town a 30 minute drive away, and there wasn't really anything there. I ran in to this one dude at this bar who I met up there about a year and a half ago when I had driven up there before too, but we just talked for a bit and that was about it.

This all really sucks and I've been trying to figure out what to do, trying to get jobs and save money. I even got a job for one day as a dishwasher, then the stupidest shit happened, I wanted to get an energy drink and they didn't have any at the bar of that restaurant, so the manager actually told me that I could walk to the gas station to get one that was about 3 miles away. I was pretty out of it that day and ended up sort of getting lost and didn't have a cellphone or anything at the time for directions. They ended up firing me basically, and that job was for $18 an hour. I'm probably gonna try to get another one of these little dishwashing jobs for money.

And then so on the one hand I stood up to people that were pulling a gun and knives on me that one night, but on the other I ended up submitting to that psychiatric shit again. I'm going to have to leave the state for sure this time, I didn't have the guts to last time that I was on the injections. I've experienced a bit of being homeless enough to know that it really really sucks. On top of all of that, to get a bit conspiratorial for a bit there's the very real danger that this country could collapse in 6 months to a year. I've been thinking alot about my own mortality, and about trying to get things right with God so to speak. I might even end up taking one more of those injections just to have time to get more money saved up. I've been kind of screwing around and drinking and doing other stuff in kind of a stupid way lately, just to try to kind of get fucked up and forget about some of the stuff that happened and to try to feel better after those injections. It looks like things are starting to get very real though. God help me and God help us all.

Your stories pretty interesting, sounds like you’re really going through it man I really do hope the best for you I’ll be sending good karma your way . It also may not hurt to take a step back with all the drugs you’re taking to reduce your chances of another CTO and potentially boost your productivity. Don’t feel ashamed for submitting to the psychiatric people either you may be able to fight off a few folks in the street no problem but you can’t beat the system nobody on this planet can on their own.

 

[paranoid android]

That’s not the case for me anymore tbh, I’m trying to quit and rewire my brain to be attracted to traditional inter course with the average women again and get rid of those unrealistic expectations that porn addiction can give.

Ive actually had quite the opposite reaction during my recovery. Now i am even more of a hedonist and am way kinkier. Maybe that's just normal if you couldnt get it up for 2 long fucking years like me

 

[Merek]

Ive actually had quite the opposite reaction during my recovery. Now i am even more of a hedonist and am way kinkier. Maybe that's just normal if you couldnt get it up for 2 long fucking years like me

I’ve always been really kinky not gonna go into detail but into a lot of different stuff, for now I’m just tryna quit watching porn and fapping, then once I stop having cravings for it get back into having sex. A long break should make sex way more pleasurable as lots of people who have gone on long nofap streaks have reported, I’ll keep sex in moderation though cause addiction or not semen retention has a ton of benefits I mean it creates life it’s self so if you’re not constantly releasing it you feel more full of life that’s atleast how I feel, Some people can fap all the time and still feel full of life it’s different for everyone. The benefits of semen retention aren’t my priority just a secondary thing my priority is getting rid of porn addiction as it’s been very taxing on my dopamine levels.

 

[Dre87]

Your stories pretty interesting, sounds like you’re really going through it man I really do hope the best for you I’ll be sending good karma your way . It also may not hurt to take a step back with all the drugs you’re taking to reduce your chances of another CTO and potentially boost your productivity. Don’t feel ashamed for submitting to the psychiatric people either you may be able to fight off a few folks in the street no problem but you can’t beat the system nobody on this planet can on their own.

Yeah, it's kind of all been crazy. I had a whole 'nother life before at one point when I was younger. There were also times in my life where I had massive anxiety and social anxiety and depression, and was pretty shy and timid around people too, but by that night at that point I had just been through so much shit that I wasn't just going to let a few punks on the street stop me. I also happen to be a pretty big dude too. It also showed me though the really bad crime situation in the streets in the cities right now too, and Phoenix is much more of just a suburban city. I think that I also even ended up stumbling on some sort of human trafficking ring or something that night too. I even tried to make Youtube and Rumble comments on the channels of people from Fox News trying to tell them about it. Really one of the craziest nights of my life.

Yeah that psychiatric system is just so evil, I can't end up taking all of those injections this time though or probably really any more than maybe just one more. I've had 4 years worth of psychiatric injections already. Most people that have had that many injections probably wouldn't be as functional as I am right now, but it's still a constant struggle. Then after I leave the state or whatever I'm probably going to end up being homeless unless I find something else that I can do soon. And yeah the drugs can be a slippery slope. I have a theory though that every time that you smoke weed or cigarettes, or drink alcohol or do dopaminergic drugs that it actually helps to clear out the dopamine receptors of some of the antipsychotics, since those things release dopamine. Besides all of that though I've actually ended up learning a whole lot in the streets this year alone, and have also actually became very humble lately and also have been trying to live for some sort of higher purpose if I can, which has helped to keep me going.

 

[Merek]

Yeah, it's kind of all been crazy. I had a whole 'nother life before at one point when I was younger. There were also times in my life where I had massive anxiety and social anxiety and depression, and was pretty shy and timid around people too, but by that night at that point I had just been through so much shit that I wasn't just going to let a few punks on the street stop me. I also happen to be a pretty big dude too. It also showed me though the really bad crime situation in the streets in the cities right now too, and Phoenix is much more of just a suburban city. I think that I also even ended up stumbling on some sort of human trafficking ring or something that night too. I even tried to make Youtube and Rumble comments on the channels of people from Fox News trying to tell them about it. Really one of the craziest nights of my life.

Yeah that psychiatric system is just so evil, I can't end up taking all of those injections this time though or probably really any more than maybe just one more. I've had 4 years worth of psychiatric injections already. Most people that have had that many injections probably wouldn't be as functional as I am right now, but it's still a constant struggle. Then after I leave the state or whatever I'm probably going to end up being homeless unless I find something else that I can do soon. And yeah the drugs can be a slippery slope. I have a theory though that every time that you smoke weed or cigarettes, or drink alcohol or do dopaminergic drugs that it actually helps to clear out the dopamine receptors of some of the antipsychotics, since those things release dopamine. Besides all of that though I've actually ended up learning a whole lot in the streets this year alone, and have also actually became very humble lately and also have been trying to live for some sort of higher purpose if I can, which has helped to keep me going.

Most people who have taken that many injections or even a quarter of the amount you took would have ended up committing suicide by now, the fact you’re still here really shows how strong you are, god has you here for a reason so try and search for your purpose.

 

[Dre87]

Most people who have taken that many injections or even a quarter of the amount you took would have ended up committing suicide by now, the fact you’re still here really shows how strong you are, god has you here for a reason so try and search for your purpose.

Thank you. I think that I was still able to retain a decent amount of social skills and functionality from in the past having gone to school and college and working jobs, working out and playing sports, and having had a number of times in my life where I've been the 'cool guy' before so to speak that people liked and respected and some girls wanted me too also definitely helped. Probably anybody who didn't have any kind of history of being involved in and having had at least some sort of success before functioning in 'normalcy' would probably have a very difficult time. I've heard that there's people who've been on those injections for 10 years though. I made alot of horribly stupid decisions in my life though too which really ended up ruining things in alot of ways.

Another thing is that I've really actually seen real crazy spiritual stuff in 2010, that also became very real in the physical world too, and my friend who's an army veteran was also involved. It showed me the true nature of reality or at least alot more of it, and it showed me the control system that really does exist too you can say that. Even though that stuff happened I still had alot of psychological issues when I was younger though and fears that were holding me back. There were times where I would withdraw from people and society for long periods of time. It also looks like I didn't work nearly as hard as I should have in my 20's, because the 'real world' was still there too. Now it really seems like we're all coming to the end here guys, or whatever's gonna happen. They keep saying that some sort of societal collapse or an apocalypse was gonna happen before, but this time it's really different. Since I'm still here I'm still going to keep at it but I don't really know what's gonna happen from here.

 

[HelpMeInvega]

Thank you. I think that I was still able to retain a decent amount of social skills and functionality from in the past having gone to school and college and working jobs, working out and playing sports, and having had a number of times in my life where I've been the 'cool guy' before so to speak that people liked and respected and some girls wanted me too also definitely helped. Probably anybody who didn't have any kind of history of being involved in and having had at least some sort of success before functioning in 'normalcy' would probably have a very difficult time. I've heard that there's people who've been on those injections for 10 years though. I made alot of horribly stupid decisions in my life though too which really ended up ruining things in alot of ways.

Another thing is that I've really actually seen real crazy spiritual stuff in 2010, that also became very real in the physical world too, and my friend who's an army veteran was also involved. It showed me the true nature of reality or at least alot more of it, and it showed me the control system that really does exist too you can say that. Even though that stuff happened I still had alot of psychological issues when I was younger though and fears that were holding me back. There were times where I would withdraw from people and society for long periods of time. It also looks like I didn't work nearly as hard as I should have in my 20's, because the 'real world' was still there too. Now it really seems like we're all coming to the end here guys, or whatever's gonna happen. They keep saying that some sort of societal collapse or an apocalypse was gonna happen before, but this time it's really different. Since I'm still here I'm still going to keep at it but I don't really know what's gonna happen from here.

Some people actually thrive on the Invega Sustenna injection, you sound like someone that might actually benefit from it. I used to talk to this dude and it’s his third year taking it and he’s back into society working and living as normal of a life as he can. Sounds like instead of fighting the psychiatric drugs they might actually benefit you and keep you out of trouble and if you can live at home and work why wouldn’t you do just that and take the injection. For some people it’s not that bad.

 

[CrimsonThornX]

Gee I think it's been close to a solid week since the last time I checked this forum, we're two pages away from being in v 7.0 too. I hope people are gradually and successfully recovering from the horrible effects of antipsychotics, I'm glad I only recieved the loading dose of invega, I can't imagine the struggle for people who took multiple doses. I was wondering, am I the only one who constantly looks around me and thinks, "look at those people, having a good ol' time most likely not suffering from the debilitating side effects of antipsychotics." I've admittedly always had the bad habit of constantly comparing my life to that of others, which I know is quite unhealthy to do but I unfortunately have difficulty controlling it. I've recovered enough that I can somewhat enjoy my life, certainly not like before due to my anhedonia and whatnot but enough that I don't feel severely suicidal. For some reason despite my significant improvement I feel constantly sad, is that normal? Mabye it has to do with my dopamine and serotonin receptors still being blocked if I had to guess. My biggest concern at this point is my ED, if you know what I mean. I can't imagine living with that issue for the rest of my life, it would certainly affect future relationships if and when I so choose to look for them again.

 

[paranoid android]

Gee I think it's been close to a solid week since the last time I checked this forum, we're two pages away from being in v 7.0 too. I hope people are gradually and successfully recovering from the horrible effects of antipsychotics, I'm glad I only recieved the loading dose of invega, I can't imagine the struggle for people who took multiple doses. I was wondering, am I the only one who constantly looks around me and thinks, "look at those people, having a good ol' time most likely not suffering from the debilitating side effects of antipsychotics." I've admittedly always had the bad habit of constantly comparing my life to that of others, which I know is quite unhealthy to do but I unfortunately have difficulty controlling it. I've recovered enough that I can somewhat enjoy my life, certainly not like before due to my anhedonia and whatnot but enough that I don't feel severely suicidal. For some reason despite my significant improvement I feel constantly sad, is that normal? Mabye it has to do with my dopamine and serotonin receptors still being blocked if I had to guess. My biggest concern at this point is my ED, if you know what I mean. I can't imagine living with that issue for the rest of my life, it would certainly affect future relationships if and when I so choose to look for them again.

I had ED for about 2 years on invega and abilify it was fucking horrible. I thought i would never get a hard on again. But after being off abilify for about 3 months my sex drive and ability to get it up started to go back to normal. Now my sex drive is as high or even higher then it ever was and i feel like a teenager again.

So you will get better don't give up hope

 

[Merek]

Some people actually thrive on the Invega Sustenna injection, you sound like someone that might actually benefit from it. I used to talk to this dude and it’s his third year taking it and he’s back into society working and living as normal of a life as he can. Sounds like instead of fighting the psychiatric drugs they might actually benefit you and keep you out of trouble and if you can live at home and work why wouldn’t you do just that and take the injection. For some people it’s not that bad.

Some people can thrive on injections especially if they’re illness is very severe but I’d say invega sustenna shouldn’t be used at all unless every other anti psychotic in the book has been tried and hasnt worked, @Dre87 if I was in your shoes I would probably try to get switched to abilify haefrya and get sober off all the drugs you do, that way the abilify can work more effectively and you’d be able to live a better quality life over time possibly there’s no guarantee that would work but if I was in your situation that’s what I’d personally try to do.