Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

[MatteM92]

Potrebbe certamente! Buono a chiedere al dottore di questo. Tuttavia, potrebbero non voler assumere una dose troppo alta, poiché troppa attività della dopamina non fa bene alle persone a cui sono stati diagnosticati disturbi psicotici.

ma non mi sono stati attribuiti disturbi psicotici..mi l'anno dato per un momento di rabbia...vero questo sito è pieno di psichiatri. Sono pro invega

 

[Fanzy]

Good diet probably just ensures that you recover but probably not speeds that up. Boron+apple cider vinegar helps body to remove invega from receptors and it also helps to break down invega molecules.

How can you be sure?

 

[t_xeplionhell]

How can you be sure?

I know chemistry.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

People experimenting with St. John's Wort?
Do you notice any effect??

I'm personally thinking of quitting with the antidepressant soon and using this instead, as it helps to rid your system of the invega. Which is
i'm no longer depressed. Not even sure if I was depressed. but then life was merely existing, not being able to enjoy anything. Now I can, a walk through nature, a meetup with a friend, cooking a good meal. A bit hesitant to quit with the SSRI, but if St. John's Wort helps to get rid of it faster, then I go for that...

Taking St. John's Wort for 10 months in moderate dose, I don't notice effect. That depression thing you have/had it is probably actualy emptyness and not real depression, I was a bit better when I started having depression because it is actual feeling and I like it, lol I'm depression enjoyer and I feel better while I'm sad. Anhedonia still bites me badly.

 

[MatteM92]

embarrassing situation. brain off. weakness and bad suicide symptoms 11 months after injections. has anyone lost weight afterwards? I am increasing despite eating little. do not tell me to walk I have little energy and if I do I do not think that from 98 kg I will return to 82-85 as before

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

embarrassing situation. brain off. weakness and bad suicide symptoms 11 months after injections. has anyone lost weight afterwards? I am increasing despite eating little. do not tell me to walk I have little energy and if I do I do not think that from 98 kg I will return to 82-85 as before

Yes. I was able to lose a significant amount of weight with clozapine, which arguably increases appetite the most out of the antipsychotics. It was really difficult at first, but now it's not much of an issue to eat better.

 

[MatteM92]

yes but I eat little. it just altered the physique

 

[kicki]

I'm losing weight now. 6 months since the last injection and I am with another AP pills. But I don't eat very much, I do fasting, walk, exercise...

Every day is a little easier and the body get used to it and recovers energy levels.

 

[Nina2021]

My running issue remains sleep. I want cases of 0 sleep. I'm getting nuts. I don't want to get addicted to sleeping pills but should I hold on to 0 hours sleep?
I am at 6 months minus 10 days off and it feels really hard. I take a Valium a day when I get too crazy.

 

[MatteM92]

la tua salvezza è zolpidem (non più di 2 o diventi dipendente come me) dura poco nel sangue non lascia segni di stanchezza il giorno dopo. ma non dura a lungo e serve solo ad addormentarsi e non a rimanere addormentati. Uso circa 2 stilnox e purtroppo seroquel perché ti fa dormire. Ho letto che eri interessato alla mirtazapina. molto potente. dormirai con quello ma sei grasso. altrimenti l'ho usato. quindi secondo me (non voglio consigliare) ma 10-20 mg di zolpidem e poca mirtazapina si dorme evitando sonniferi ad azione prolungata come il valium che rimane nel corpo 48 ore.... o forse di più ed è debole a dormire . dato che è un sedativo quindi ricerca e convince la merda: stilnox che in america è anche chiamato zolpidem e ambien

 

[Nina2021]

la tua salvezza è zolpidem (non più di 2 o diventi dipendente come me) dura poco nel sangue non lascia segni di stanchezza il giorno dopo. ma non dura a lungo e serve solo ad addormentarsi e non a rimanere addormentati. Uso circa 2 stilnox e purtroppo seroquel perché ti fa dormire. Ho letto che eri interessato alla mirtazapina. molto potente. dormirai con quello ma sei grasso. altrimenti l'ho usato. quindi secondo me (non voglio consigliare) ma 10-20 mg di zolpidem e poca mirtazapina si dorme evitando sonniferi ad azione prolungata come il valium che rimane nel corpo 48 ore.... o forse di più ed è debole a dormire . dato che è un sedativo quindi ricerca e convince la merda: stilnox che in america è anche chiamato zolpidem e ambien

I take Valium because is a pill I have for anxiety. Actually since my 3rd shot Valium does not make me sleep. I spend all day looking at the ceiling thinking about nothing. The phone games bore me too because of anhedonia. I get very anxious and then I want to kill myself.

What I was wondering if people with zero sleep also get healed. As far as I know people more or less sleep some hours. I lost all my sleep

 

[Nina2021]

Do people think that sleeping pills slow down recovery?

 

[ExStonerExDrinker]

I'm losing weight now. 6 months since the last injection and I am with another AP pills. But I don't eat very much, I do fasting, walk, exercise...

Every day is a little easier and the body get used to it and recovers energy levels.

What ap pills are you taking?

 

[Jerry Atrick]

My running issue remains sleep. I want cases of 0 sleep. I'm getting nuts. I don't want to get addicted to sleeping pills but should I hold on to 0 hours sleep?
I am at 6 months minus 10 days off and it feels really hard. I take a Valium a day when I get too crazy.

One thing I've noticed from your posts is that you lay in bed all day and can't sleep at night. I know when I was severely depressed I would lay in bed all day. I discovered that even if I was awake, my body was still in a resting state and I would also have trouble sleeping at night for a couple of reasons. One reason was that laying in bed all day made my lower back sore so by the time night came around, my body was aching and I couldn't sleep. The other thing was that I think since I wasn't using any energy during the day, what little energy I had would be built up and it would cause me not to be sleepy at night either.

I don't know if your case is the same but I found when I literally forced myself to get out of bed and even if it was walking in circles around my bedroom, at least I was doing something other than laying there all day. I didn't even really consider it exercise because I prolly wasn't burning that many calories. But at least I was giving my back a chance to stretch out a bit and was expending a little energy, no matter how minimal it was.

I am not trying to minimize your problems, just trying to put them into the context of when I had anhedonia after Risperidone injections. It sounds like many of the people who have recovered from Invega injections have said it was not easy. I would venture even further and say it takes discipline and literally forcing yourself to do something you don't want or even don't think you can do. Baby steps worked for me. Even if it was just walking around my bedroom for 5 minutes a day for a week. Then 5 minutes twice a day for another week or so. Rinse and repeat.

 

[MatteM92]

Prendo Valium perché è una pillola che ho per l'ansia. In realtà dal mio 3° colpo il Valium non mi fa dormire. Passo tutto il giorno a guardare il soffitto senza pensare a niente. Anche i giochi telefonici mi annoiavano a causa dell'anedonia. Divento molto ansioso e poi voglio uccidermi.

Cosa mi chiedevo se anche le persone con zero sonno guarissero. Per quanto ne so, le persone dormono più o meno alcune ore. Ho perso tutto il sonno

I sleep 6 to 8 hours with the sleeping pills that I told you ... only I wake up at night and I have to take them back ... the receptors are blocked and the sleeping pills are not felt very much. valium does nothing. it takes something that takes 1 maximum 2 and makes you sleep 6 hours at least. they are called z drugs and are more effective but only to induce sleep not to maintain it. little remains in the blood. unfortunately they should be heard. not more than 1 month but if one sleeps for zero hours, then the drug is better. ask the general practitioner and explain the urgent situation..I don't know what it's called stilnox in spanish

 

[MatteM92]

Una cosa che ho notato dai tuoi post è che stai sdraiato a letto tutto il giorno e non riesci a dormire la notte. So che quando ero gravemente depresso stavo sdraiato a letto tutto il giorno. Ho scoperto che anche se ero sveglio, il mio corpo era ancora in uno stato di riposo e avrei anche avuto problemi a dormire la notte per un paio di motivi. Uno dei motivi era che stare a letto tutto il giorno mi faceva male la parte bassa della schiena, quindi quando è arrivata la notte il mio corpo era dolorante e non riuscivo a dormire. L'altra cosa era che penso che dal momento che non stavo usando alcuna energia durante il giorno, quella poca energia che avevo sarebbe stata accumulata e non avrei avuto sonno nemmeno di notte.

Non so se il tuo caso è lo stesso, ma ho scoperto che quando mi sono letteralmente costretta ad alzarmi dal letto e anche se stavo camminando in cerchio intorno alla mia camera da letto, almeno stavo facendo qualcosa di diverso da stare lì tutto il giorno. Non l'ho nemmeno considerato esercizio perché probabilmente non stavo bruciando così tante calorie. Ma almeno stavo dando alla mia schiena la possibilità di allungarsi un po' e stavo consumando un po' di energia, non importa quanto minima fosse.

Non sto cercando di minimizzare i tuoi problemi, sto solo cercando di inserirli nel contesto di quando ho avuto l'anedonia dopo le iniezioni di Risperidone. Sembra che molte delle persone che si sono riprese dalle iniezioni di Invega abbiano affermato che non è stato facile. Vorrei avventurarmi ancora di più e dire che ci vuole disciplina e costringerti letteralmente a fare qualcosa che non vuoi o addirittura non pensi di poter fare. I piccoli passi hanno funzionato per me. Anche se stavo solo camminando per la mia camera da letto per 5 minuti al giorno per una settimana. Quindi 5 minuti due volte al giorno per un'altra settimana circa. Risciacqua e ripeti.

ok quando l'effetto svanisce. sono malato dopo 11 mesi. pisello più piccolo. insonnia. aumento di peso. depressione mancanza di concentrazione. Mi sveglio ed è come se non avessi dormito. e come.Mi dicevo l'anno dato.senza psicosi..quindi il timore è che darlo a un soggetto non psicotico possa comprometterlo per tutta la vita. anche 2 iniezioni

 

[kicki]

What ap pills are you taking?

Vraylar(reagila), 1.5, the lowest dose. They are more manageable than invega, at least I'm not so so tired. Anyway, still sleeping a lot.

I am not trying to minimize your problems, just trying to put them into the context of when I had anhedonia after Risperidone injections. It sounds like many of the people who have recovered from Invega injections have said it was not easy. I would venture even further and say it takes discipline and literally forcing yourself to do something you don't want or even don't think you can do. Baby steps worked for me. Even if it was just walking around my bedroom for 5 minutes a day for a week. Then 5 minutes twice a day for another week or so. Rinse and repeat.

I don't enjoy exercising yet. But every day I suffer a little less. What you say is true

 

[Gdvffh]

Vraylar(reagila), 1.5, the lowest dose. They are more manageable than invega, at least I'm not so so tired. Anyway, still sleeping a lot.


I don't enjoy exercising yet. But every day I suffer a little less. What you say is true

Yeah so ive recovered from antipsychotics 3 times and its hard to say if exercising and stuff helps with recovering or its simply time. When im recovered i dont even really notice that i recovered. I just kinda start doing more things and not really having a problem with it. The last time i recovered i was forcing myself to do exercises at home because i was annoyed at how fat i had gotten. I would do a 35 pound Dumbell workout then rest for 10 mins. Then do another dumbell workout then play computer for 10 mins. I was doing this for hours at a day. Then one day i noticed i recovered. Unfortunately i was hearing voices almost immediately after recovering and got put in a mental hospital around a month after recovering. That time i got put in a mental hospital my doctor decided to put me on a CTO. So my recovery was short lived. I think i was recovered from the meds like 2 months before feeling like shit again. Normally after recovering im not on meds again for at least a year. But this time it was literally a month or 2. Thats why i think if your being forced to take these meds from family you really need to move out of your parents place so you dont get out on meds again. The catch 22 however is that when your on meds you dont really have any energy so its hard to move out ans live on your own when your in this state that qe have when were on antipsychotic meds.

 

[Kaatrina]

One thing I've noticed from your posts is that you lay in bed all day and can't sleep at night. I know when I was severely depressed I would lay in bed all day. I discovered that even if I was awake, my body was still in a resting state and I would also have trouble sleeping at night for a couple of reasons. One reason was that laying in bed all day made my lower back sore so by the time night came around, my body was aching and I couldn't sleep. The other thing was that I think since I wasn't using any energy during the day, what little energy I had would be built up and it would cause me not to be sleepy at night either.

I don't know if your case is the same but I found when I literally forced myself to get out of bed and even if it was walking in circles around my bedroom, at least I was doing something other than laying there all day. I didn't even really consider it exercise because I prolly wasn't burning that many calories. But at least I was giving my back a chance to stretch out a bit and was expending a little energy, no matter how minimal it was.

I am not trying to minimize your problems, just trying to put them into the context of when I had anhedonia after Risperidone injections. It sounds like many of the people who have recovered from Invega injections have said it was not easy. I would venture even further and say it takes discipline and literally forcing yourself to do something you don't want or even don't think you can do. Baby steps worked for me. Even if it was just walking around my bedroom for 5 minutes a day for a week. Then 5 minutes twice a day for another week or so. Rinse and repeat.

There is no solution for it. I had the same problem. I could not sleep until I got off invega.

Yeah so ive recovered from antipsychotics 3 times and its hard to say if exercising and stuff helps with recovering or its simply time. When im recovered i dont even really notice that i recovered. I just kinda start doing more things and not really having a problem with it. The last time i recovered i was forcing myself to do exercises at home because i was annoyed at how fat i had gotten. I would do a 35 pound Dumbell workout then rest for 10 mins. Then do another dumbell workout then play computer for 10 mins. I was doing this for hours at a day. Then one day i noticed i recovered. Unfortunately i was hearing voices almost immediately after recovering and got put in a mental hospital around a month after recovering. That time i got put in a mental hospital my doctor decided to put me on a CTO. So my recovery was short lived. I think i was recovered from the meds like 2 months before feeling like shit again. Normally after recovering im not on meds again for at least a year. But this time it was literally a month or 2. Thats why i think if your being forced to take these meds from family you really need to move out of your parents place so you dont get out on meds again. The catch 22 however is that when your on meds you dont really have any energy so its hard to move out ans live on your own when your in this state that qe have when were on antipsychotic meds.

If you don't notice a difference between recover and being on invega, you were not on invega.

 

[Kaatrina]

Do people think that sleeping pills slow down recovery?

They just stop working after a while, and then you will have two different problems. Do you want that?