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Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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I want to be able to experience intimacy, have a girlfriend, have a family and I'm scared I won't be able to because of this. It feels like my whole future has been torn away from me. I used to be very active and now I'm not sure if I'll be the same again.
 
Airwick said:
I want to be able to experience intimacy, have a girlfriend, have a family and I'm scared I won't be able to because of this. It feels like my whole future has been torn away from me. I used to be very active and now I'm not sure if I'll be the same again.
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I spend my days crying for all the happy memories that are for ever gone because of this, because my 20 years boyfriend left me for the psicosis and I don't think I will find a boyfriend again plus I will be on disability. I also think about killing myself.

I have zero dopamine. I am miserable constantly I don't know how to hold
 
Nina2021 said:
Passo le mie giornate a piangere per tutti i ricordi felici che sono andati per sempre per questo motivo, perché il mio ragazzo di 20 anni mi ha lasciato per la psicosi e non credo che ritroverò un ragazzo in più sarò disabile. Penso anche a uccidermi.

Ho zero dopamina. Sono costantemente infelice, non so come tenermi
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Nina di che nazionalità sei? Non mi ricordo che sei al 4° mese? Io a 10 anni. Non ho avuto psicosi. Non so se mi riprendo. dicono circa 1 anno... ma può essere più o meno. usiamo sonniferi e le cose peggiorano... provate l'erba di San Giovanni, il magnesio prima di coricarsi. vitamine del gruppo B e melatonina 10 mg....provate a muovervi prendere il sole ricarica la serotonina
 
I am Spaniard. Yes, 4 month but I feel like hell every day. I tried melatonina and magnesium but it doesn't work. It was 6 Injections I felt truly damaged after the 4th
 
MatteM92 said:
ok ma seroquel lo uso da 9 anni mai dato problemi....forse sarà lo stilnox ad abusarne. per questo dico a Nina che potremmo stare peggio dall'uso eccessivo di sonniferi che comunque causano debolezza ore dopo l'assunzione
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Seroquel is potent antipsyhotic which blocks many chemicals (dopamine(type 1-5),serotonine(many types),hestamine, adrenaline, etc) and confuses brain while its recovering so it slows down recovery from invega, invega does same thing like seroquel but seroquel is milder, seroquel also can cause severe depression which you had before invega. Seroquel also slows down metabolism like any AP does, which results also in slower recovery.
 
semperaltius4r said:
Why would antidepressants slow down recovery?
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Potent chemicals which can only confuse brain more and cause further damage/issues (to brain structure, to regulation of chemicals, to reabsorption channels, etc), also they can have severe withdrawals. Also bad for metabolism. Some antidepressants are mostly antagonists and dont have much effect on mood and emotions. SSRI antidepressants blocks reabsorption of serotonine, etc which makes serotonine effect longer since it mostly cant return to pre synapse vesicles, but that also makes your brain have less regulation over serotonine which results in more numb emotions.

SSRI would help primarely with mood, but it would also enhance enjoyment, some people here say good things about SSRI, but we dont truly know how much it slows down recovery.
Maybe some antidepressants are worth to take if they dont affect recovery too much, but still at end you will need to quit it and you gonna have withdrawals.
 
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lau_rahxo said:
I joined the gym this week. I'm feeling mixed feelings about it all. I was so proud of myself the first day although I was also mortified because after I had signed up just before I entered the gym I saw someone working out who I had liked for ages & find really attractive. I was devestated & really embarrassed walking through the bottom level of the gym to get to the top level. Luckily one of the girls was showing me around so I didn't have to walk on my own & we walked straight past the weights part where he was because I said I didn't need to see that area. I only went on the treadmill but I walked on it for about 50 mins & burned around 450 calories which I know isn't alot but it's a start.
I decided to try a different gym the next day because I didn't want to be going to the first gym I went to if the guy I fancy is there. It's a really small shitty gym the equipment is really outdated especially compared to the other gym I tried which is massive with brand new equipment but I'm going to have to deal with it. I walked on the treadmill again. I went again a couple of days later & didn't really get to do much because I got there later & I had to start work at 11 but one of the women showed me how to use some of the equipment which made me sore all over. It was really hard doing the weight machines I was really weak & it was hard to get through it it made me feel pretty 'exhausted' afterwards. Even though I can't feel tiredness or proper exhaustion it's more like I just had no energy at all & felt sore.
I went again the next day which was yesterday I had to get up early before 6:30am so I could get a lift with my mum who was dropping my brothers at tennis because I don't have a car. I didn't know if I'd even be able to get up early so I'm proud of myself.
I then pushed myself to go again today & burned 412 calories which again I know isn't much but better than nothing.
I'm really frustrated though & almost didn't bother going today because the first day after going to the gym I weighed myself & I had lost 1.2kg from the day before. I was stoked even though I knew it was most likely water weight. But then yesterday I weighed myself & my weight had gone up. Then I weighed myself this morning & my weight has gone up again by 0.5kg. I'm now at 71.2kg which is the highest I've been.
I'm going to give the gym a go for 2 months. I'm 5 months off on the 27th May. I know alot of people have said they didn't start losing weight until around the 6 month mark so I'll keep trying until then. But it's going to be really hard to not be discouraged if my weight keeps going up & not down.

I'm saving up for liposuction. It's frustrating because it costs so much! I found a place in Sydney that does it pretty cheap but it's too far from me & you have to go back for post surgery massages so I wouldn't be able to travel all that way. I've found somewhere local that does it but it's so expensive but they have the best before & after photos I've come across. It's $3,600 for the first area then $3,000 for other areas. If you're going under local anesthetic you can only get 2 areas done at a time. If you're going under general anesthetic you can get as many areas as you want but it's so much more expensive to go under general. I want to go under general because I'm squeamish & faint easily but I'm going to just have to do it under local. I've decided rather than saving up for ages to get more than one area done I'm just going to start with my double chin so I can get atleast that done then save up for everywhere else.

I've still got my work from home job which I'm loving having. I started 4 weeks ago now. It's telefundraising. I get paid $210 (before tax) a day to call people all day & only around 20-30 sometimes 40 people max answer. It would be the perfect job except they listen to our phone calls & because I'm new they listen to mine all the time which makes me nervous & I end up stuffing up some of the calls. I can't seem to get past it & wish I was my normal self so I could use my emotions/motivation to work through it or even meditate. Or if I could feel the effects of coffee/food properly. Or music. Or exercise. Simple things that would help me get in a better mind frame to do better.
I'm worried how much longer I'm going to have the job for because we do have daily targets we have to meet which is 2 monthly sign ups a day for our charity. Because I'm new I'm not expected to meet targets just yet but I will have to very soon if I want to keep my job.
I actually don't know what I'll do without it because it's great having the money coming in but it's also good to have something to do to make my day go faster & know I'm getting paid to do it & it'll pass the time to recovery quicker. It's good because it gives me structure & I have set breaks. I also treat myself to menulog alot. Even though I can't feel hunger or satisfaction from food properly still it has gotten abit better & I can feel my tastebuds more.
On Friday I didn't work & I didn't know what to do with myself I don't know how I got through the days before I was working.
I really hope I can keep my job. It's also good because I can choose to start work at 11 if I want & it gives me time to go to the gym some mornings.

I got my prolactin levels tested again recently. Last time they only went down 85 in a month which I was worried about. But this time they've gone down 409 to 1183 in 6 weeks. So I'm hoping that in another 6 weeks it will have gone down another 400 then within another 6 weeks hopefully it will be normal levels again.
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I suggest shoulder exercises with dumbells. And pushups.
 
Jerry Atrick said:
Hey, I just want to say that going to the gym even just a few days is a huge step. I'm really proud of you for taking this initiative to try to get healthy and better. I don't want to sound cliche but I've always been told that it takes 21 days of doing something to make something a habit. That's only 3 weeks.

I wouldn't worry about working out every single day. Recovery is just as important as the workout itself. You don't want the workouts to become counterproductive. And don't forget to stretch. Be careful with the weights at least starting out. May want to get accustomed to the tread mill and/or rowing machine (for upper body) before hitting the weights, especially if it's been a while since you last worked out.

Also, it can take weeks or even months of working out to see tangible results. So I wouldn't go in with hopes of losing weight after just a couple of days. Working out takes effort, discipline, and determination. Just keep your eyes on the prize and you will do great <3
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Assumption: so for somebody on invega or comming off invega it would be 105-210 days to make something a habbit because of operating on less brain usage.
 
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t_xeplionhell said:
Seroquel is potent antipsyhotic which blocks many chemicals (dopamine(type 1-5),serotonine(many types),hestamine, adrenaline, etc) and confuses brain while its recovering so it slows down recovery from invega, invega does same thing like seroquel but seroquel is milder, seroquel also can cause severe depression which you had before invega. Seroquel also slows down metabolism like any AP does, which results also in slower recovery.
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I had depression even before using seroquel. he hadn't gained any weight. or at least the weight I took because I was doing bodybuilding. i would not take it but i am addicted to zolpidem and seroquel. even so I sleep little. with seroquel I was able to live normally. not now. the psychiatrist says it does not interact with dopamine at low doses
 
MatteM92 said:
I had depression even before using seroquel. he hadn't gained any weight. or at least the weight I took because I was doing bodybuilding. i would not take it but i am addicted to zolpidem and seroquel. even so I sleep little. with seroquel I was able to live normally. not now. the psychiatrist says it does not interact with dopamine at low doses
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It does interact with dopamine at any dose but its hard to notice on low doses, BUT you took invega, now you will notice it more easily and its effect will also be amplified (if want know why dm me, but I indirectly explained why it does that in recent posts). Also it interacts with lot of other chemicals(neurotransmitters) not only dopamine. Also it will slow down matabolism even if taken on low doses.
 
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t_xeplionhell said:
If I dont take 1g magnesium, I only sleep 2h-4h.
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I don't sleep at all that's why I am really suicidal. I don't believe I can heal without sleeping.

I'm spending now all days crying. I have lost friends, family my long term partner on the diagnosis of psychosis and rejection to take xeplion

I have extremely severe anhedonia and zero dopamine. I don't know anyone who is living a hell like mine
 
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t_xeplionhell said:
It does interact with dopamine at any dose but its hard to notice on low doses, BUT you took invega, now you will notice it more easily and its effect will also be amplified (if want know why dm me, but I indirectly explained why it does that in recent posts). Also it interacts with lot of other chemicals(neurotransmitters) not only dopamine. Also it will slow down matabolism even if taken on low doses.
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Let's try to avoid offering DMs in this context. If you have information that is helpful to him, then it would also be helpful for other members in the open forum. Why keep helpful info a secret? You don't have to answer that rhetorical question, just trying to make a point. Thanks!
 
Nina2021 said:
Non dormo affatto, ecco perché sono davvero suicida. Non credo di poter guarire senza dormire.

Ora passo tutti i giorni a piangere. Ho perso amici, la mia famiglia, il mio partner a lungo termine sulla diagnosi di psicosi e il rifiuto di prendere xeplion

Ho un'anedonia estremamente grave e zero dopamina. Non conosco nessuno che stia vivendo un inferno come il mio
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se piangi va bene. Non posso. se ti paingi vuol dire che stai reagendo
 
Anyone believes if food can help speed up the healing of receptors?
I mean, apart from eating a balanced diet, could it have some effect???
for brain receptors, at least magnesium.
 
semperaltius4r said:
Anyone believes if food can help speed up the healing of receptors?
I mean, apart from eating a balanced diet, could it have some effect???
for brain receptors, at least magnesium.
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Good diet probably just ensures that you recover but probably not speeds that up. Boron+apple cider vinegar helps body to remove invega from receptors and it also helps to break down invega molecules.
 
but in short. is there anyone who is healed? I don't want examples of former users. I want examples of people who can currently confirm a healing for me. especially people who took this injection for free and did not have high dopamine. subjects without psychosis who were given this medication for a moment of anger, or a family quarrel but did not have schizophrenia. Have they ever recovered? because 2 injections, after 10 months I feel even worse than the first 3 months ... then I ask myself: there is no entry if the drug is in the blood. it doesn't even matter about diet or sunbathing. here. there is damage such as lobotomy. permanent
 
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