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Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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BK38 said:
I’m receiving an anti-psychotic injection today for my Psychosis treatment, but it’s so expense at 232.67 euro a shot. Are there any generic or less expensive options that can be found in France and/or Europe?

Love, BK38
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Six months off Xeplion now and I am starting to get my feelings back. I can feel joyful tears from time to time now while listening to music. While on injections music were empty. I am happy that I can cry now. Hopefully weed will start working again when I am healed. Though weed is not my biggest concern. I used to appreciate the high but as the legend goes weed usually blocks your dream so being sober is nice because you have dreams every night.
 
OLDTIDEN said:
Six months off Xeplion now and I am starting to get my feelings back. I can feel joyful tears from time to time now while listening to music. While on injections music were empty. I am happy that I can cry now. Hopefully weed will start working again when I am healed. Though weed is not my biggest concern. I used to appreciate the high but as the legend goes weed usually blocks your dream so being sober is nice because you have dreams every night.
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Well ..im happy for ya dude...i still feel anhedonic tho 16 months off...dont wanna go outside,just sitting in my home chatting wirh my friends...i have no joy unfortunately...still waiting,yeah but some things had improved as well...i m able to think like i used to but...im always tired,feel depressed ...i really need sth special in my life...such a boring life gee..
 
Risingson8 said:
Well ..im happy for ya dude...i still feel anhedonic tho 16 months off...dont wanna go outside,just sitting in my home chatting wirh my friends...i have no joy unfortunately...still waiting,yeah but some things had improved as well...i m able to think like i used to but...im always tired,feel depressed ...i really need sth special in my life...such a boring life gee..
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So ive been on an injection for a year and got off in may. I try and keep busy go for walks and play pokemon go, go to sauna, lift some weights. Thats kind of thing. While on meds i was on my laptop and i got kind of sick of it. So now im trying to do other things. Maybe try going for a walk or something, or try and read a book, youve been off for a long time so it seems like you should be better. Maybe your just used to doing nothing so your just doing nothing and all.
 
morten said:
I got Detox my body, and he said my blood veins were wrongly placed, so he corrected that too.
I also got that Detox last fall; he also cleaned my blood last year.

I still feel outstanding, with no issues or any mind-related episodes.

I guess next is fasting. I have tried that before; it is hard not to eat anything except Oranges in the evening and drink a lot of clean water.
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God speed it gets great at 3.-4. day. I guess little salt is not to be forgotten?
 
Is there any supplement for lethargy...i always feel tired...during the day...what should i take,i dont wanna take ritalin or conterta ...
 
Risingson8 said:
Is there any supplement for lethargy...i always feel tired...during the day...what should i take,i dont wanna take ritalin or conterta ...
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There's also L-Tyrosine which helps to replenish dopamine, and ginseng too which is somewhat stimulating
 
Just finished my first week at the new place after I got fired from the last one. The work is kind of like this Taser manufacturing place I worked at before, very mind numbing, tedious, repetitive and boring. At least at the other place I was at before you got to assemble stuff and maybe use your brain a bit, not here. This is robot work, this is like fresh off the boat immigrant work or something. I'll admit it's getting kind of hard, maybe it's the early start times, but I'm gonna keep going for the foreseeable future or until they find me another one. I was kind of hoping to just be out somewhere and meet some rich guy who thinks that I'm cool and he hooks me up with jobs and connections and stuff, ha.
 
Ha wow..same thing just happened again as last time, soon after I made that post I got a call again from the staffing agency and they said that the new place fired me too..but they also said that there's a place doing similar work right across the street from there that pays two dollars more an hour and starts an hour later at 7am that's going to take me it looks like..heh 3 jobs in one month..I gotta admit I was getting lazy on that job, and maybe also being on 4 years worth if injections has something to do with it too. This next one I can't fuck around at all, for at least the first two weeks or month I'm going to have to push through it no matter how much it sucks so they don't fire me too. This time with the pay and later start time it could be worth it.
 
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There was a video on Youtube that was explaining how your brain and emotions work, it's saying that it's like a factory and it can either produce the emotions and chemicals for positive emotions, or negative emotions, and you're the commander, you get to choose which one you get. I've been pretty negative for the most part, gonna see what else I might be able to do.
 
Dre87 said:
Ha wow..same thing just happened again as last time, soon after I made that post I got a call again from the staffing agency and they said that the new place fired me too..but they also said that there's a place doing similar work right across the street from there that pays two dollars more an hour and starts an hour later at 7am that's going to take me it looks like..heh 3 jobs in one month..I gotta admit I was getting lazy on that job, and maybe also being on 4 years worth if injections has something to do with it too. This next one I can't fuck around at all, for at least the first two weeks or month I'm going to have to push through it no matter how much it sucks so they don't fire me too. This time with the pay and later start time it could be worth it.
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Lol i got a job too thats pretty boring. My job is.unionised though so its very hard to get fired. You dont get fired for working slow, but you would if you punch a guy or steal stuff. Things like that. Yeah so even though my job is boring and has a bunch of dull older people, i stick arouns. Basically right now i lice with my family. My job works that they have 3 positions, casual, part time, and fulltime. Its based on seniority. It takes 3.5 years to become part time, and 5 years to become fulltime. My plan is to move out once i become a fulltime employee. Ive been working there for 2 years so i got 3 more years to go. Also my job is located everywhere in the country. I just have to fill out a transfer form and id be able to live somewhere else in the country. Also max pay is 30 an hour. You start at 23 and get a dollar raise a year. So the job is good for sustaining myself for when i plan to live on my own, but being at work itself is very boring.

Im hoping when i move to a new town i plan on living to, that the coworkers are more interesting then the ones im working with now.
 
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Lol i got a job too thats pretty boring. My job is.unionised though so its very hard to get fired. You dont get fired for working slow, but you would if you punch a guy or steal stuff. Things like that. Yeah so even though my job is boring and has a bunch of dull older people, i stick arouns. Basically right now i lice with my family. My job works that they have 3 positions, casual, part time, and fulltime. Its based on seniority. It takes 3.5 years to become part time, and 5 years to become fulltime. My plan is to move out once i become a fulltime employee. Ive been working there for 2 years so i got 3 more years to go. Also my job is located everywhere in the country. I just have to fill out a transfer form and id be able to live somewhere else in the country. Also max pay is 30 an hour. You start at 23 and get a dollar raise a year. So the job is good for sustaining myself for when i plan to live on my own, but being at work itself is very boring.

Im hoping when i move to a new town i plan on living to, that the coworkers are more interesting then the ones im working with now.
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I've never heard of a job before that you have to wait that long to become part time or full time.
 
Three different jobs in one month, ha..I guess you could say that I'm getting some work experience after a while off.
 
I came here just to update you guys. I recovered emotions around 7 & half months off & have been improving ever since. I feel emotions & happiness listening to music again & love finding new music or listening to old music & feeling the memories. I'm getting my motivation & energy back. I've been exercising more & feeling satisfied sometimes after a workout. I pushed myself to burn 700 calories on exercise bike the other day I burned 300 before work then was only going to burn another 200 after work to make it 500 but really pushed myself & it helped that I was enjoying listening to music so much & finding new songs that I felt the push to go harder.

I'm starting to get my motivation back again. I'm starting to feel tiredness again, I get full satisfaction from eating food, I think I might even be feeling the effects of coffee again.

My hair is improving & looking alot better now. My prolactin levels are down to 468 the normal range in Australia is 85-500 although I was fasting for other things I was getting tested & you don't need to fast for prolactin I know one of the other times I didn't fast my levels were alot higher & had only gone down around 90 whereas every other month they would go down around 200-300. So I'm going to get my levels tested not fasting also.

I've started using a jade roller & gua sha tool again & facial cupping tools. It's helping me get my nice facial features & jawline back but I definitely need to lose another 19 kgs so know that it's going to take losing more weight for my face to go back to normal. But it's good to see some improvements.
I've lost around 6kgs in 11 weeks so it's coming off slowly but surely & I'm doing it in the healthy way so it will stay off. I've been doing intermittent fasting for the last 11 weeks plus exercising although sometimes I wouldn't exercise much I'm starting to really push myself more now my motivation is coming back.
I'm not strict with the fasting & didn't even do it properly for the first month. I still treat myself everyday but I weigh pretty much everything now & stick to the recommended serving size which is not alot most of the time haha. I'm sure I would lose more weight quicker if I was stricter but I like to treat myself. I've been trying different ways to still treat myself but be as healthy as possible.

It's frustrating because if only I hadn't of put on 25kg because of invega. I can't wait to get out there again once I've lost the weight & start living my life again.
I would consider myself almost fully recovered if I didn't have the weight to lose. I don't get out much at all at the moment only every 6 weeks to get my hair cut & I'm not socialising until I lose the weight. But I'm feeling good considering & happy to just focus on losing the weight over the next 6-9 months.

I'm getting joy out of watching tv/movies again too. And I'm excited for the new season of some of the shows I like to come out especially You.

I've been working from home for 6 months now & love my job it's helped me get through everything by passing the time during the week & keeping my occupied plus it's a great feeling earning money every week & having savings. The last 5 weeks though our shifts have been cut because there hasn't been enough work which is frustrating but I was told myself & another guy are the top performers so they were giving us priority & extra shifts.

I'm getting joy out of online shopping again too but have been maybe treating myself a bit too much & spending alot haha but I do have savings which is good. I can't wait until I can buy clothes again in my size before invega.

My imagination/memories have also come back which is really helping me get through especially with not getting out as much.

My period is also regular again I get it around every 30 days now.

For anyone wondering I had the 2 loading doses 150mg then a week later 100mg then a 75mg shot a month later. Then I was lucky to be put on tablets but only took 1 then I had my community treatment order revoked by Supreme Court. I have posted updates throughout my whole journey so if you just search my username I believe you should be able to find my older posts & updates I tried to do one around every month. I was definitely suicidal after the first 75mg shot. Loading doses weren't so bad it was the 75mg shot that ruined me. I'm so lucky I didn't have to take anymore I honestly don't think I would've survived.

I'll post a more indepth update soon but just wanted to post this for now
 
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Jerry Atrick said:
I did not intend to make this a pissing contest and I'm truly sorry for that. I was simply trying to state my point of view as we all have the right to do in this forum and sometimes I can get wordy. I apologize if my comments came across as harsh. Sometimes my bluntness might be perceived as a superiority complex but I can guarantee you that I feel as inferior as anyone else with serious mental illness, which I have lived with for nearly 20 years.

Careful what you wish for, being homeless isn't like the movies. I would not wish homelessness on anyone and since you have not experienced it, your subjective opinions to dismiss the gravity of homelessness only seem like mental gymnastics on your part. I have been in a couple of homeless shelters and I promise they are way more dangerous than psych wards; like I said, not like the movies. I'm talking about fights all the time, people strung out and psychotic from using who knows what hard drugs, in fact just as many mentally ill people as a psych ward but without nurses or techs or really anyone to protect you from getting jumped or having your shit stolen. Oops, here I go seeming competitive again when I'm just trying to educate folks.

I have been forced on medications including Long Acting Injectables, more on that below.

While I am a mod here, I assure you there is no "mod policy" where any of us are obligated to take a "socially correct stance" with regards to psychiatric therapies or "shovel" specific opinions down anyone's throat. We do work within the confines of promoting Harm Reduction and I do not feel I have deviated from that considering the original post I was replying to involved a person experiencing problems that could potentially be alleviated with a brief hospital stay or at least voluntary/short term medication treatment. Please read my above comment about stating my point of view.

I already said I was forced on Risperidone injections, experienced all the side effects that Invega victims have although possibly not to as great a degree, and that it took me around a year to recover. I did not share specific details beyond that because it should have been sufficient. Yes I was bedridden for months and lived in a fog, I had severe anhedonia and blunted emotions, my dick didn't work properly, etc etc etc. It was indeed personally devastating and I was on Disability for 6 years afterwards, unable to work.

Like I said at the top of this post, I'm sorry I came across as being competitive and I should not have stooped to that level. You have to admit though that it takes two to tango and we both were participating in being not only competitive but also defensive. So I can say with honesty that we should all (myself included) take a chill pill and simmer down because it isn't really helping anyone get better or to heal, which is part of what this thread is about. said it took u 6 yrs to recover
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Jerry Atrick said:
I did not intend to make this a pissing contest and I'm truly sorry for that. I was simply trying to state my point of view as we all have the right to do in this forum and sometimes I can get wordy. I apologize if my comments came across as harsh. Sometimes my bluntness might be perceived as a superiority complex but I can guarantee you that I feel as inferior as anyone else with serious mental illness, which I have lived with for nearly 20 years.

Careful what you wish for, being homeless isn't like the movies. I would not wish homelessness on anyone and since you have not experienced it, your subjective opinions to dismiss the gravity of homelessness only seem like mental gymnastics on your part. I have been in a couple of homeless shelters and I promise they are way more dangerous than psych wards; like I said, not like the movies. I'm talking about fights all the time, people strung out and psychotic from using who knows what hard drugs, in fact just as many mentally ill people as a psych ward but without nurses or techs or really anyone to protect you from getting jumped or having your shit stolen. Oops, here I go seeming competitive again when I'm just trying to educate folks.

I have been forced on medications including Long Acting Injectables, more on that below.

While I am a mod here, I assure you there is no "mod policy" where any of us are obligated to take a "socially correct stance" with regards to psychiatric therapies or "shovel" specific opinions down anyone's throat. We do work within the confines of promoting Harm Reduction and I do not feel I have deviated from that considering the original post I was replying to involved a person experiencing problems that could potentially be alleviated with a brief hospital stay or at least voluntary/short term medication treatment. Please read my above comment about stating my point of view.

I already said I was forced on Risperidone injections, experienced all the side effects that Invega victims have although possibly not to as great a degree, and that it took me around a year to recover. I did not share specific details beyond that because it should have been sufficient. Yes I was bedridden for months and lived in a fog, I had severe anhedonia and blunted emotions, my dick didn't work properly, etc etc etc. It was indeed personally devastating and I was on Disability for 6 years afterwards, unable to work.

Like I said at the top of this post, I'm sorry I came across as being competitive and I should not have stooped to that level. You have to admit though that it takes two to tango and we both were participating in being not only competitive but also defensive. So I can say with honesty that we should all (myself included) take a chill pill and simmer down because it isn't really helping anyone get better or to heal, which is part of what this thread is about.
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U said it took u 6 yrs to recover. How did u know u had recovered??
 
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