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Coming down from meth used to make me suicidal, now it doesnt?

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cherrybomb101

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When I first smoked meth I had the worst come down of my life. I stayed in bed for 24 hours and even called into work cause I couldn't drive without panicking. I said I would never do it again...until my ex got me into banging heroin..he brought ice home and we banged it...that come down made me suicidal..I thought I was going to jump out the window of my apartment.

I didn't do ice again for 1 year..then someone offered it to me and I had a good time again and also the come down wasn't that bad.


Now I do it about once or twice a month and coming down from it is the typical ice come down.....hard time sleeping, loss of appetite, usually last till I get some sleep.

Why is the come down not bad anymore?
Is everyone like this at first?
Sorry if this has been asked before, I'm new here and I'm coming down right now..just had me wondering.
 
Probably a combination of the fact that you're not using as much and your life situation has changed. Go back to using often and it will be back with a vengeance.
 
Every chemical you ingest chips away at your neuron receptors. Whether that's repairable or not is another question. In most cases it is, but very heavy abuse will most certainly keep you from going back to your natural baseline, at least from my experience. I personally have noticed that tolerance never goes completely down, or if it does, it takes much longer than 2-3 years of abstinence from the chemicals in question and any related ones that act similarly on the brain.

There's the MDMA magic being lost forever after a number of uses. There's the first-weed-high story every smoker has, but I don't see people talking about every other drug's magic which is also lost. Zoloft used to feel like 24/7 MDMA for me for instance. Methylone was powerful at first but tolerance for it has never gone down for me (6 months+). MXE built up a tolerance fast to the point where I could take it and enjoy it, but I was still relatively in control and without too much in the way of a crash.

The MPA is making me babbling so I'll get back on topic. Maybe the first meth you smoked was low quality? I tried coke for years with a shitty come down. Then I met uncut coke, or coke that was at least 90% pure. I know this because of the yield when I tried washing it myself. That's not accurate but needless to say, this was good shit. I also believe this because this coke had a gentle come up, no nose irritation or drip whatsoever, a very clean feeling with no crash. There was eventually a crash of course, but it was only under heavy abuse. It's my body's way of reminding me that I'm running low on monoamines and need to sit in bed and wait it out. With occasional use, getting sleep, food and keeping a routine schedule, most drugs have treated me well in regard coming down or crashing.
 
^ That's all too true about MDMA losing it's magic; those first few months really were an incredible experience, but then it just stopped doing it's thing; I haven't touched it in years, and have no plans to.

About your comedown experience: I remember my first MDMA comedown, and it was brutal, I was in the pits of despair for almost two days. The second time, it was nowhere near as bad. Of course I know jack about brain chemistry as some above posters do, but my theory is that the mind can simply form a mental tolerance to feelings both pleasant and unpleasant. In the latter case ie your comedown from hell, perhaps you were more prepared for the experience, and had some "coping strategies", even at a subconscious level? After all, the mind and the human body are both highly adaptable things.

For myself, the comedowns were my consequence of using stimulants; my fear of the comedown was what made me respect these powerful stims, and stopped me from abusing them. My advice to you would be not to be more inclined to use in future, simply because your comedown may be tolerable.
 
I count myself lucky to avoid some of the nightmare comedowns I've been hearing. (Ranging from months to even years).After I quit mdma I experienced a bout of clinical depression; could this have been caused by "serotonin toxicity", I've never heard the phrase before and have no idea what it means?
 
If your dope is high quality, you force yourself to eat and sleep, and you use often enough to become tolerant to the negative effects but not often enough for the dope to turn on you and become nothing but negative effects, come-downs really aren't that bad. You just go to sleep.

I always found that when I used crystal regularly I had no harsh come-downs but if I binged infrequently they were miserable. Every meth user should keep benzos and antipsychotics on hand to guarantee sleep and terminate dope psychosis if it occurs. I found 200mg of Seroquel would put me to sleep no matter how much dope I'd done.
 
Sounds like dope quality is different, how they synthesized it and all. Weird thing for me is I always thought meth would have the worst crashes and stuff since iv had meth bombs. But doing meth alone, smoking or snorting always felt real gentle on the comedown. It could be that i always take a little xanax with me to stay calm and xanax after to crash.
MDMA and mdma mixed with meth is always hell on earth though, feel terrible for days on end sometimes months.
MDMA is definitely more damaging to the neurons than meth IME.
 
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