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Phenethylamines [Combo Thread] Mescaline & MDMA

Dude look at some of the other stuff at "candy kid central" http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/1028/checklist.html haha. Classy "Oh no wait I forgot my suspenders, fake eye lashes and whistle" Good times. An "E Baby" Do people actually bring stuffed animals to raves? Oh wait they must put drugs in them. Of course!

Oh swilow don't you know thats the only way to fly by taking a... um... man, I can't even say it.

I think that maybe candyflipping is pretty well known, but I wish people would just say hey, "I took some MDMA and LSD."
 
I'm looking for any feedback on a 'cactus flip'.

Has anyone tripped on cactus (fresh or chips) and also done MDMA (before or after) ?

I've never candyflipped and don't think I can find the LSD to make that happen. I do though have some San Pedro chips, can wrangle some MDMA, and was curious to know if anyone has tried this out.
 
Yeah, I've taken MDMA 1.5 hours after taking cactus extract. It was nice but the stimulation from the MDMA takes away from the mescaline IMO.

It's alright but I prefer just the cactus. :)
 
MDMA with Synthetic Mescaline Compared to MDMA with Cacti Mescaline

I have only experimented with Peyote once, and it was a nice glowing experience, not overly intense. I felt like combining it with MDMA would create an amazing euphoria. Unfortunately Peyote is just too damn expensive for me, so I can only afford Trichocereus peruvianus (Peruvian Torch), Trichocereus macrugunos or Trichocereus bridgesii. I plan to experiment with Peruvian Torch to get a better feeling for the mescaline high. I'm planning on trying 30 grams of dried Peruvian Torch orally first. If anyone has experience with Peruvian Torch I'd like to know thoughts on whether 30 grams of dried Peruvian Torch is a good dose for someone who is comfortable with high doses of psychedelics and has only tried Peyote and never tried Peruvian Torch before, or if I should consume more than 30 grams. I'd also like to know if people think that consuming the dried, powdered Peruvian Torch is the best option, or if tea or any other method is better.

This thread may be deemed a little premature because I don't have much experience with mescaline, but after I have more experience with mescaline containing cacti I plan on mixing it with a mescaline and MDMA combo. I'm thinking when I do this combo I will take the cacti first and supplement with MDMA a couple hours after I peak on the mescaline. I have heard that MDMA and mescaline is a great combo but unfortunately I have never come across synthetic mescaline personally. I have a lot of questions.

How does MDMA with mescaline containing cacti compare to MDMA with synthetic mescaline? Is it worth mixing MDMA with mescaline if you can't get synthetic mescaline?

If so, which cacti should I get? I'm assuming Peruvian Torch may be the best option. A friend told me its good to eat Peruvian Torch or make teas out of Trichocereus macrugunos or Trichocereus bridgesii, so I'm interested in what my best option is.

Depending on the cacti, what is the best preparation for this mixture? Should I dose the dried cacti into gel capsules, eat it, make a tea out of it, or just dump the powder cacti into boiling water and drink it with the powder?

Depending on which cacti is best suited, how much should I do with my regular dose of around 200 mg of MDMA?

The bulk of this combo thread doesn't really compare synthetic mescaline to cacti mescaline when mixing MDMA. Any insight into this combo would be great!
 
There are probably only a very small handful of people here who have had the oppurtunity of trying pure, synthetic mescaline.


The thing about consuming cactus, is you're getting a lot of other alkaloids as well.

Do an extraction. A mescaline molecule is a mescaline molecule, regardless of whether it is synthetic or not.

when i combined it there was about 350mg of mescaline. ideally i would do about 400-500 mg of mesc, but that is just me, and i'm pretty sure 200mg of mdma is more than i've ever done in one night.
 
I have a bit of a tolerance to MDMA, hence the 200 mg dose. I also don't know if I have the time to extract mescaline, I'll have to do more research but I assume it's quite the daunting venture. I'm interested in extracting DMT but I have never extracted a chemical from a plant so I am completely inexperienced in extraction methods. Is it that much better to go through a synthesis process and do purely mescaline with MDMA compared to mescaline with other alkaloids and MDMA?
 
I prefer the effects of extracted mesc much more than the effects of the tea. D-limonene tek is simple, safe and requires no chemistry knowledge.

Granted, that method does not provide 100% pure mescaline, but it is as pure as you're going to get without an acid-base. 90-95% pure according to the author.
 
There are a lot of good points and perspectives shared here. I don't know how much I can contribute, but I do sense some antipathy and devaluation of MDMA in this thread.

MDMA certainly has a more hedonistic edge. Individuals may find that it brings out a very superficial side of them. There is a lot of value in pondering that activity itself.

However, MDMA is also subjectively quite healing for many individuals. Nothing "fake" about it.

Combining these two is just that, a combination that creates an entirely different experience from either of these two substances experienced on their own. That may or may not be desirable. Personally I have found it to help me elucidate the subtle expressions of mescaline and draw out some of the deeper truths of my own hedonistic desires.
 
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MDMA and mescaline

I am well aware of candy flipping and hippie flipping, but I'm not sure if there is a name for this combo. I've read that with both types of tryptamines and MDMA, both drugs potentiate each other and the affects are discernable from one another. Seeing that MDMA and mescaline are both phenethylamines, how would the effects and experience differ from a combo with tryptamines? Anyone ever try it?
 
I've heard a "sticky flip" once, but haven't heard a serious one other than that. It's a legit combo that probably would be really awesome. Talk about social. Probably really good body high too.
 
a guy i knew used to press them together and called them "apple jacks" because the pills were speckled. the mescaline would start coming on as soon as the mdma peak started started to subside and carry you on and on and on and on... magic.
 
Sounds absolutely great. I think I might do this Saturday, I'll be sure to post following the experience.
 
It's a great combo, very long but very fun. Personally i like longer psychedelic trips, as it gives me more time to come to terms with, and explore, each phase of the experience. You're gonna have a great time!!
 
I am an ethnogenic purist, however when me and my buddy went to Lucky 2013 I was already on mescaline and tripping pretty hard. My friend offered me Molly and said I had to take it but I turned him down, then he shoved it in my mouth and made the choice for me. That said it was an amazing experience, I was on a very high dosage of mescaline and had major visuals but then the MDMA gave me an intense rolling effect. I could have been justifiably pissed but that wouldn't have done either of us any good so I went with it and we had a great time together.
 
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